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i just updated my wiki. in my last 13 games i am 1-12.

In post 302, Nachomamma8 wrote:#2738: This is feeding into confirmation bias based o n pretty much nothing. Muffin uses "actually" a lot. He used "I will" once. None of this is motivation behind actions, none of this considers alignment.

#2764: Interpreting a player's posts literally and assigning scum motivation to it is generally bad for obvious reasons.

Tree stump conversation is useless, but isn't carnival of lunacy.

Conversation with ffery is a sign of not liking the conclusion, dismissing the conversation completely.

Before this point, there was a good portion of sheer rhetoric and literally nothing else.

1) The point wasn't the individual usage. It's the corpus of the post. Even I use unnecessary adverbs and fail to contract sometimes, and I edit my posts for those things fairly aggressively.

2) Not sure what you mean by "interpreting the posts literally," and I don't see how you can not assign scum-motivation to the miller ordeal.

Conversation with ffery is to help pin down a read on her. I'm at like 65% scumread on her at this point.

And if you're calling my posts "rhetoric" when I'm one of the most straightforward posters on this site, I don't know what to tell you...

In post 325, Desperado wrote:i just updated my wiki. in my last 13 games i am 1-12.

I'm on something like a 7 or 8 game losing streak on my solo account right now.

My win rate has dropped from almost 80% to just above 50% :/

In post 313, Nachomamma8 wrote:

Rancid Broderick Drake wrote:Like, not only was SSK's temper tantrum super town, but mastin is excited and hyped about this game in some measure--which was, believe it or not, my intention in dragging her sorry ass into that hydra anyway. And I'm appealing to real life, but i don't think mastin would be able to be this enthusiastic about the game given the mental health issues if everyone was right. Like, I know this is a horrible argument but I'm very well-in-touch with emotional thinking.

This streak of posts was Nati and was before the frustration.

Nati's point is bad.

Mastin has responded super-enthusiastically to getting scumread before. AP and I had him pegged in Anything Goes by page 5, death tunneled him the entire game, and he made it a point to make sure he beat us.

she*. I need to get that into my muscle memory :/

Nacho,

You told me to vote Orc and started getting frustrated because I am not working with you when I outlined why I felt Orc was town earlier. I also wrote a massive explanation for why PV was town. You shouldn't expect me to put aside my reads for yours while derailing wagons that I build on my scumreads. You didn't work with me. You worked me. You also didn't answer any of my questions from my other wall which was more game relevant stuff anyways.

You could also, I dunno, be more involved in the game and spend time working with others when everything isn't so rushed anyways.

In post 271, Nachomamma8 wrote:

In post 268, Desperado wrote:^cuz if your actions at deadline are any indication your reads are pretty shitty anyway, so

At least I'm willing to reanalyze them. You aren't willing to reanalyze. Bro won't reanalyze. f-16 won't reanalyze. Etc, etc.

But haven't re-analyzed anything nor did you show a willingness to.

In post 279, Nachomamma8 wrote:I know Muffin is a lost cause. Muffin is very self-absorbed at times, he stirs up shit and he doesn't really care about stirring up shit. Other people in your hydra normally can be dragged out of vitriol lane before everything gets too horrible.

It would have nice if you spent actual effort talking to people like you usually do instead of passing blame. You claim that Muffin is a lost cause and he is the one whose actions you passionately defend.

In post 282, Nachomamma8 wrote:

In post 280, Desperado wrote:

In post 277, Nachomamma8 wrote:BRO doesn't have an anxiety attack? We have a yesterday that's actually beneficial to determining the alignments of anyone?

if you believe that yesterday wasn't conducive to determining anyone's alignment why were you trying to redirect the discussion on to your reads just now?

that wasn't a fair statement, you're correct
yesterday wasn't a day where reads were formed in a fun way. reads were formed by reading emotional breakdowns and reading people who are literally far past their limit, which isn't a fun way to form reads (which is what i mean by an unhealthy gamestate).

Okay, and telling Muffin to stop insulting half the playerlist might have led to a more calm day. Why didn't you consider it?

In post 314, Nachomamma8 wrote:

Rancid Broderick Drake wrote:I would actually like to be lynched (just because I literally do not want town to win this, which is why I'm stepping back and giving full control of play to Nati because I cannot play to win con)

And then I would like for mastin to be lynched after us just so town is in a really shit position

I have told Nati what he should do if he still cares about winning - it's a cheap tactic (and i don't think it's a rule violation but i told him to check with cabd before he does it), but if you still think we're scum after it happens, you literally have no idea how to scum hunt

If you have any sense you'll wait to see whether he decides to do what I told him to do. I don't care either way, though.

This is frustration I'm referring to and townreading: it is muffin's frustration, not Nati's.

This is fake because it doesn't make any sense and here's why:

1) With an active hydra partner, it would have been extraordinarily easy to replace out of the game and not bother with it if he wanted to. While it is bad, it is better than playing against wincon.

2) He came right back into the thread, unvoted, and continued spewing vitriol at anyone that suspected him.

3) He spent an extraordinary amount of effort into avoiding his lynch which if he really gave up, he wouldn't have.

In post 316, Nachomamma8 wrote:

In post 315, Desperado wrote:nati showed up and blamed f-16 and titan for causing her eyes to bleed and hailing ap and mastin for their brevity.

first, i don't think nati preferring ap and mastin over f-16 is anymore significant than f-16 liking you over ap and mastin

Except Tammy and I were analyzing the game and moving it forward. Mastin and AP were shittalking. A rational human being isn't ever going to prefer Mastin's/AP's back and forth over ours. Nati is a rational human being.

Pie, IAWTP means I agree with this post.

In post 330, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:3) He spent an extraordinary amount of effort into avoiding his lynch which if he really gave up, he wouldn't have.

F-16, can you post this over and over again tomorrow?

I don't think posting anything over and over again will be very helpful. It didn't help you guys in Anything Goes and it won't help now. What will help is working with the rest of the town.

In post 318, Nachomamma8 wrote:here's why i wouldn't care: muffin normally gets more serious when people vote him
i get more serious when people vote me (see: xenogears, too many heads) and i think a lot of players are that way regardless of alignment so

didn't RBD already say they weren't intending to play the game seriously

Of course RBD gets janitored...

I don't think scum killed RBD.

RBD is scum, right?

Could it be a janitor vig?

If it's a janitor vig, I'll be livid.

The orange color means they are scum, right?

I'd be annoyed if they found a way to get back into the game.

Let me x-reference with other games with janitors.

FEA had janitored targets flip a neutral color.

That's as far as I got.

Cabd doesn't have his modded games listed on his wiki (which is a thing I should also do...)

I have a Latin quiz I need to study for. Be on tomorrow. Probably angry

I am interpreting that as 'no alignment' flip due to the ???.

Also I'm pretty sure cabd advertised a single scum game if I remember from signups, and the scum role in the first post is red, not orange.

I'm finding a RBD scum janitor and Mac town kill (? - there are other possibilities) pretty hard to swallow

scum would never kill RBD

if RBD is town, then them being alive and all the fucking noise centered around them is only useful to scum

I'm thinking if it's not a janitor vig it might be a scum role that automatically janitors its flip or some other weird fuckery like that

and wasn't mac like a universal townread

there were only like 1 or 2 ppl who had him as scum iirc

If RBD really was killed by town then that gets us fucking nowhere.

Ugh.

But hey actually having one role flip with information is a welcome fucking change from that one game that just ended *grumble fewfhkjewwdjhefkl*

In post 347, borkjerfkin wrote:But hey actually having one role flip with information is a welcome fucking change from that one game that just ended *grumble fewfhkjewwdjhefkl*

trololololololololo

consider that my revenge for touhou IN

fwiw I think you played really well

See Mac's role though. He is a bodyguard. He probably died defending you guys or Titan. I think Titan because you and Mac had opposite positions on Mastin and Rancid. So, Mac died defending someone and
1) Either a janitor vig shot RBD (no idea who it could be though)
2) Or he janitors self upon a flip and can be revived. Man, that would suck. If and when we lynch Mastin, his scumflip should be enough to not let RBD live onto endgame.

The cool thing about this game is we have some solid reads. If people claim contradictory things, we don't need claims to sort out who is town.