Mini 1770: College Mafia! (Game Ovah)

[Firebringer]

VOTE: Kirroha

Yeah, I am feeling the scum.

[Aeronaut]

VC 1.9

VC 1.9

(With 13 students still enrolled, it's 7 to Lynch!)

[L-7] Aristophanes -
[L-7] BlueBloodedToffee -

[L-6] Firebringer -

massive

[L-5] GuiltyLion -

Jeanne11, tojam2
[L-7] Jeanne11 -

[L-6] kirroha -

Firebringer

[L-5] massive -

BlueBloodedToffee, GuiltyLion

[L-6] Night Hunters -

SirCakez
[L-7] PeregrineV -
[L-7] shaddowez -

[L-5] SirCakez -

Night Hunters, Aristophanes

[L-5] tojam2 -

kirroha, shaddowez,

[L-6] ɀefiend

- PeregrineV

Not Voting

- ɀefiend

Mod Notes:

Deadline is this Saturday!
shaddowez is V/LA

Final Exams begin in

(expired on 2016-03-12 17:20:32)

[Night Hunters]

Titus head has intermittent power outages and storm that ripped out a tree. Vla till further notice. Hopefully resolved shortly.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

BBT is continuing to obvtown.
-Dad

Let's discuss this, shall we?

1. I had not noticed tojam's early vote on SirCakez til this post and I went back and re-read. After seeing it and realizing that his next post is hopping from SC to you, I find this wishy-washy and certainly potential posturing against town!SirCakez. It gives me a town-lean on you and SirCakez because tojam's latest post(s?) have not changed my mind that he's scummy. Would you agree with this assessment?

2. What do you think of shaddowez' post 214? Lots of good questions and content. How does this post and other shaddowez actions fit into your posturing investigaton?

3. Since I never actually voted for SirCakez, did my exchange with him give you the impression that I was pushing him? If you have time to read all of it, what is your over-all take-away from both our stances during the exchange and how does my behavior fit into your posturing investigation?

4. This looks like possible shadow-casting. Would you agree? massive has been getting stronger on my scumdar and if SirCakez is town I definitely see the alleged posturing here.

1. I would agree with that assessment completely, but tojam has since outright claimed a PR which means he is probably town
UNVOTE:

2. 214 is a very townie-looking post - most of it aligns exactly with how I was reading things. Shaddowez is certainly not the first person I would come after for posturing, but I've also never played with or read from much from him before so I don't have any beat on how capable he is as scum.

3. Your initial exchange with him did give me the impression that you were setting yourself up to move there, particularly "I see things that are worrisome but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt" is exactly the kind of thing scum would say if they want to look like they're scumreading someone but don't want to jump on yet while everyone else is doing their dirty work.

I also didn't understand how your question about the logical train of thought (A therefore B) would uncover anything alignment indicative, and I wanted to see where you took that, but then you dropping the conversation left the exchange overall rather null for me. Can you explain how this lead you to townread SirCakez?

4. Yes, massive is currently in my lynchpool for today

Kirroha still hasn't followed up on her catchup despite posting in multiple other games today. Getting scum vibes there now, feels like she's dodging the game.
I also don't like how massive is still voting Firebringer despite the PR claim.

Your phrasing was perfectly clear but now you're trying to change it. It's not 'how I'm interpreting it' it's exactly what your words were saying.

The 'as' is key, it implies you at least agree to an extent with what NH are seeing. So it's pretty scummy for you to try and turn this around to say I'm interpreting your posts incorrectly, I think you realised you couldn't respond to my post and as such needed to try and change the original meaning of what you wrote.

This is garbage. I literally explained that I did agree with what NH was seeing in that I also -see- it. I did not agree that it was necessarily scummy, especially not to the degree that NH is saying. We agree on what SirCakez did, we disagreed that it meant he was scum, and NH further polluted the read and drove me away from the wagon with 90 and 106, and making a bunch of arguments that assume SirCakez is scum first to describe his posts second ("he's asking for a bailout, he's faking his reads").

tojam2 continues to look like scum with a fakeclaim ready.

Alright, my lynch pool is slowly narrowing.

I don't want to lynch Fire, Tojam, GL, NH, and SC.

Everyone else is varying degrees of 'need to do more' or 'I could lynch today'. I would really like to get a massive wagon going as well.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Forgot I had quoted them; read this post with the one above.

Dwlee, can you explain how I'm obvtowning? Not something people usually say about me.

GL, are you reading Shadow as town for 214 or is it just a townie looking post? To me, it looks like a whole load of easy questions that scum could ask and outside of that, Shadow is a non-presence. I'm also happy with your 318 as a response.

I agree with SC that massive/Kirr are looking like good lynch options.

Kirr continuing to push Tojam after he has claimed PR w/ no counter (a PR that will never be left alive no less) is pretty scummy and she needs to be lynched.

Ideally, we would get wagons forming on both massive and Kirr.

[kirroha]

Meh. Did tojam actually claim? That's why I shouldn't post from my phone ugh. I miss out posts.

Yeah I know that sounds scummy as hell but gimme some time to read this game yeah?

I crumbed my role too. I do have a PR as well.

[tojam2]

GL, if you can change your mind about a player in less than a day, it's because you're being pressured to, or you're acting it out.

[tojam2]

VOTE: massive I'm happy with that wagon now the kirroha one is basically dead.

[tojam2]

Note to mod: kirroha was at L-5 as i changed my vote to her.

[kirroha]

VOTE: GuiltyLion

Need to get myself involved in this game till I come back later.

[kirroha]

GL, if you can change your mind about a player in less than a day, it's because you're being pressured to, or you're acting it out.

Eh do you scumread GL or massive or both

[BlueBloodedToffee]

VOTE: Kirr

[Night Hunters]

My town read on you is mostly gut, bbt, but you have good reads progression and are trying to solve the game, etc. etc.

So if anyone is a PR can you STOP FUCKING CLAIMING?!

-Dad

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I missed Kirr's 330 somehow. This game is gonna be fun. Dwlee, how do you get an obvtown gut read?

VOTE: massive

[Night Hunters]

Just kinda happens.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

tojam2 continues to look like scum with a fakeclaim ready.

Meh. Did tojam actually claim? That's why I shouldn't post from my phone ugh. I miss out posts.

Yeah I know that sounds scummy as hell but gimme some time to read this game yeah?

I crumbed my role too. I do have a PR as well.

Like, how can I be so obviously town that you can't explain it?

Are you interested in a massive wagon?

[Night Hunters]

I already explained it. It is a feel of genuineness that I get when I read your posts that = town.

I am interested in a massive wagon but Titus thinks they're town.

-Dad

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Meh, we're not going to get anywhere with this.

Titus, come explain your massive town read when you can please.

[Night Hunters]

Titus head has intermittent power outages and storm that ripped out a tree. Vla till further notice. Hopefully resolved shortly.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I know, that's why I said when she can.

[Night Hunters]

OK

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Is that the only read you two disagree on?

[Night Hunters]

Of the ones we talked about, yes.

[Night Hunters]

Of the ones we talked about, yes.

-Dad

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Which ones did you talk about?