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In post 325, Raskolnikov wrote:Please don't mock me.

In post 329, Sickofit1138 wrote:

In post 325, Raskolnikov wrote:Please don't mock me.

agreed.

@FOX

havent you noticed that sarcasm isnt usually a townie thing to do?

In post 292, beeboy wrote:I don't think Ranger was killed for only being the IC she was probably also killed for having correct reads.
There had to have been something there to offset the chance she was targeted by a protective action last night.

In post 305, Zyf wrote:Fox, I understand your concern towards beeboy knowing too much, but I think you two are getting into nitty gritty details that aren't really necessary.
In fact, if what beeboy is saying is true, it makes a lot of sense: Sad was lynched, so the only person that leaves as scummy to ranger is Vandit. Guess who has been under a great deal of scrutiny lately: vandit.
Second, if you're saying that protecting general townread>protecting IC, that leaves 2 possibilities.
From what I can tell, the 2 general townreads were Rask and I: the only one that scumread ranger by the end of the day was rask, so if rask was scum, that leaves only me. However, if I was general town read mafia would probably have chosen to kill me, but the kill succeeded on ranger, meaning that A) they weren't going for me (and the only 2 people I found not suspicious were you and rask, so I probably pointed fingers at them at some point) and B) they thought ranger was more of a threat than me (which, considering ranger could have easily been a lynch candidate for pushing the VT sad, makes no sense:

unless

ranger's reads were correct).
This means that vandit is extra scummy-looking now.

However, since ranger's out of the picture, beeboy was mostly inactive and sick, and rask was relatively townread (and still appears to be so), there is quite a high chance that this is a newbie scum team. This team could have easily not thought my above idea through (ranger would harder to lynch than some other player, which she really wouldn't have been). In fact, with all the evidence pointing to vandit, all of us pretty much glaring at vandit, and you (as the only one not really doing that) seeming to have read progression noticeable enough for a more experienced player like rask to trust (not dvds or something like that), it's also possible that the scum team is vandit+dvds. The vandit dvd team is extra notable considering that vandit whined about even me being unproductive/inactive, but completely ignored dvds, the MOST INACTIVE ONE (extra scum point for vandit, I just noticed that). If that is so, then vandit was probably making most of the decisions (or perhaps all of them), as dvds seems to be straight up gone. Vandit could have easily gotten irritated at ranger (appeared to be so during the day), plus ranger scumread vandit, so ranger was, to vandit, a very viable choice for a kill.

Now here's the thing: that goes directly against beeboy's theory that there is a roleblocker involved. Beeboy, response?

tl;dr-If beeboy's theory is wrong then a vandit+dvds team is highly likely

In post 332, F-oh-ex wrote:Er, where did you get that I DON'T have an intent on Vandit? I just followed the trail I saw and as I said, I'm kinda busy until Saturday. I've seen a policy lynch suggestion for Vandit and hell, I'm down for that if we don't have a better target in out collective hive mind. As per scum reading, I haven't dug deep enough yet to make an opinion whether he's such an obvious scum or an idiot town.

In post 331, Zyf wrote:

In post 305, Zyf wrote:Fox, I understand your concern towards beeboy knowing too much, but I think you two are getting into nitty gritty details that aren't really necessary.
In fact, if what beeboy is saying is true, it makes a lot of sense: Sad was lynched, so the only person that leaves as scummy to ranger is Vandit. Guess who has been under a great deal of scrutiny lately: vandit.
Second, if you're saying that protecting general townread>protecting IC, that leaves 2 possibilities.
From what I can tell, the 2 general townreads were Rask and I: the only one that scumread ranger by the end of the day was rask, so if rask was scum, that leaves only me. However, if I was general town read mafia would probably have chosen to kill me, but the kill succeeded on ranger, meaning that A) they weren't going for me (and the only 2 people I found not suspicious were you and rask, so I probably pointed fingers at them at some point) and B) they thought ranger was more of a threat than me (which, considering ranger could have easily been a lynch candidate for pushing the VT sad, makes no sense:

unless

ranger's reads were correct).
This means that vandit is extra scummy-looking now.

However, since ranger's out of the picture, beeboy was mostly inactive and sick, and rask was relatively townread (and still appears to be so), there is quite a high chance that this is a newbie scum team. This team could have easily not thought my above idea through (ranger would harder to lynch than some other player, which she really wouldn't have been). In fact, with all the evidence pointing to vandit, all of us pretty much glaring at vandit, and you (as the only one not really doing that) seeming to have read progression noticeable enough for a more experienced player like rask to trust (not dvds or something like that), it's also possible that the scum team is vandit+dvds. The vandit dvd team is extra notable considering that vandit whined about even me being unproductive/inactive, but completely ignored dvds, the MOST INACTIVE ONE (extra scum point for vandit, I just noticed that). If that is so, then vandit was probably making most of the decisions (or perhaps all of them), as dvds seems to be straight up gone. Vandit could have easily gotten irritated at ranger (appeared to be so during the day), plus ranger scumread vandit, so ranger was, to vandit, a very viable choice for a kill.

Now here's the thing: that goes directly against beeboy's theory that there is a roleblocker involved. Beeboy, response?

tl;dr-If beeboy's theory is wrong then a vandit+dvds team is highly likely

^Beeboy idk if you lost this so I'm putting it back up again.

Also fox seems to kinda desperately be putting up evidence for anyone but vandit...and it doesn't seem to be working.

Ok, just making sure, does anyone /not/ have intent on vandit aside from fox?
Specifically looking towards rask and beeboy.

In post 339, beeboy wrote:I am fine talking for 10 days as long as we lynch Vandit in the end of it.

In post 342, Zyf wrote:Yep. Agreed
So what are we speculating? Scumpartner or PRs?
Or both?
Also fox at the beginning of toDay you mentioned that killing general townread>killing IC.
Since you imply ranger was not IC, who were you expecting to get attacked?

In post 345, F-oh-ex wrote:

In post 342, Zyf wrote:Yep. Agreed
So what are we speculating? Scumpartner or PRs?
Or both?
Also fox at the beginning of toDay you mentioned that killing general townread>killing IC.
Since you imply ranger was not IC, who were you expecting to get attacked?

How the fuck did I imply ranger was not IC, Ranger being IC is a freaking fact. I suspected Mafia RB being in play from beeyboy's posts and if there is one, there's a Doc/JK too. This means Mafia wouldn't want to go for the most obvious kill.

And to be honest, I didn't have a good guess on who would be killed.

In post 347, beeboy wrote:I personally would have killed Zyf because the Rask + Ranger 1v1 would have been nice to have assuming Rask is town which isn't something I actually believe right now. I still don't like his initial push on Ranger... >_>