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Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:22 am
by Xtoxm
Ph0enix replaces JacksonVirgo. You are the best bird!


VC 1.6
[3] GayBabyJailor:
Saladman27, NorwegianboyEE, Naerys
[2] Ph0enix:
Map Wolf, Non Imh
[1] Naerys:
GayBabyJailor

[3] Not Voting:
Ph0enix, Kanna, Datisi

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch


The Day 1 deadline is in
: (expired on 2020-01-07 07:39:44)

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:30 am
by Ph0enix
Xtoxm wrote:
Ph0enix replaces JacksonVirgo. You are the best bird!
Awww <3

Hello everyone, catching up is in progress.

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:31 am
by Map Wolf
Welcome to the game. Thanks for replacing in.

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:38 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Hi <3
Tell me when you’re ready to vote GBJ.

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:57 am
by Naerys
In post 316, Datisi wrote:
In post 290, Naerys wrote:
In post 285, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 280, Non lmh wrote:*sigh*
VOTE: Jackson
L1
I don’t know if i like the way you worded this vote. Why are you sighing in like half of your posts?
It is just 2 out of 7. But anyway Non seems like person, that does not wish to be noticed.
i just noticed this
what does "2 ot of 7" mean pretty please? <3
2 posts with sighing out of 7 Non´s posts

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:58 am
by Naerys
In post 326, Ph0enix wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
Ph0enix replaces JacksonVirgo. You are the best bird!
Awww <3

Hello everyone, catching up is in progress.
Welcome :]

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:27 am
by Ph0enix
So, a couple of initial thoughts:

The vote on GBJ from MapWolf in is the first thing that disturbed me. RVS is fine, but putting someone that hasn't posted yet at L-2 is a bit much for my taste. I think, however, there has been a misunderstanding when it comes to Norwegian interpreting MapWolf's post. To me it didn't seem like he was actually that eager to vote GBJ, he just phrased it that way, so that's not something to go off of.

The accusations against Norway that followed, however, were unfounded, I find. Especially when it comes to Kanna's post . I don't see anything wrong with the push, how are you supposed to gain information on D1 otherwise? Though, I will agree that Norway saying that MapWolf could be suspicious because he started by making excuses is debatable. You are pushing the guy from the start, of course he's going to want to explain himself.

Datisi (): "Voting someone who put someone else at L-2 two pages in is very "easy to jump on, super convincing and convenient" imo. Yeah, sure, putting them at L-2 that fast is weird. Why is it scum-indicative?"

It's not scum-indicative necessarily, but you did agree it's weird. Also, there's a difference between a "I vote you in order to lynch you" vote and a "I vote you in order to see how you react" vote. I believe we're talking about the latter here.

Norway (): "Feel like scum!him would have voted me there rather than just defending and taking the opportunity to also criticize Datisi."

Not necessarily.

GBJ (): "haha yes getting to L-2 before youve posted is aaaaa; i missed out on rvs how sad; dont like post 75 (proceeds to vote Norwegian)"

Wait, what??? Your "explanation" in the posts after doesn't help, either.

Wolf (): "Don't really like 67 and 75. I don't see how GBJ finding you suspicious makes him scum."

Well, his suspicion is unfounded by that point, so...


That's it for now. Will post again very soon, readslist included.

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:55 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 281, Saladman27 wrote:Do you wanna claim Jackaroo?
This post is awful. jackson was being pushed for pressure, it wasn’t a "time to lynch the player" vote. Yet you’re fishing for a PR claim.
Saladman, any reason you shouldn’t become an policy lynch in the immediate future assuming GBJ isn’t scum?

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:05 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 281, Saladman27 wrote:Do you wanna claim Jackaroo?
In post 283, Xtoxm wrote:[4] JacksonVirgo: Datisi, NorwegianboyEE, Map Wolf, Non Imh (L-1)
Oh and know what makes this worse? Saladman wasn't even on the wagon, nor did he signal intent that he would hammer or vote Jackson in the future.
VOTE: Saladman27

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:31 am
by Ph0enix
Readslist:


NorwegianBoyEE


Actively trying to generate discussion, pushing people left and right, making the occasional controversial post like in order to see how people react (at least that's how I see the reasoning behind it). I don't think he's given me a reason to worry so far. -
Leaning Town


Naerys


Starts off problematic, not contributing much, the response to Wolf's vote in didn't help either. She's trying to make sense in later posts, but most of what I see is defensive. -
Leaning Scum - subject to change; I need to hear more from said player


GBJ


I don't know what's going on there but it's questionable. The vote on Norway speaks for itself, I believe. Doesn't provide reasons for his reads, has the audacity to say that Salad has contributed anything, even though GBJ hadn't contributed anything, either. Posted readslist twice with no reasoning behind it. I don't know, it all rubs me the wrong way. -
Leaning Scum


The others are null reads for now, I guess I will need to reread once more there. Non Imh in particular is acting really weird, idk.

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:33 am
by Ph0enix
In post 311, Saladman27 wrote: Whenever there's L-1 I want to get a claim before a loljammer
@Norway: I interpret that as an intent to hammer on his part.

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:34 am
by Ph0enix
In post 307, GayBabyJailor wrote:oh boy time to feign activity by posting reads lists
{datisi/map wolf/kanna/non imh}
{jackson/norwegian}
{naerys/saladman}
Could you elaborate on that?

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:36 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Actually i want GJB's slot first. But Saladman is a close second.
VOTE: GBJ

Phoenix i like your entry, but am i really your only townread? Feels kinda like you're playing it safe. I'm obviously the easiest person to townread around here. ;)

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:37 am
by NorwegianboyEE
@Phoenix
What is your opinion on Datisi for example?

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:57 am
by Ph0enix
In post 337, NorwegianboyEE wrote: I'm obviously the easiest person to townread around here. ;)
Damn right.

Most of the others that I don't have a read on currently have a thing or two that concern me about them, hence why I'm hesitant to put them in the townreads as of now, for example:

Datisi and Kanna's push on you in the beginning when you voted Wolf. I disagree with his statement that the vote was "convenient". I probably wouldn't have voted in that case but I would at least have asked them to elaborate. Then again, a vote could be more effective in that case. I also don't like the response from Kanna in . Given the fact that the reason for your vote was that Map Wolf put GBJ at L-2 before him posting, how is that a reason that "fell off"?

The sole reason I'm not sold on Map Wolf is his first vote. Other than that he's fine.

From the other two I haven't heard that much.

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:14 am
by Datisi
Ph0enix, is that the only thing bothering you about my slot?

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:17 am
by Ph0enix
So in Salad says that the only slot he's scumreading by that point is Non's. In , though, he pushes my slot to claim and I interpret as an intent to hammer. It seems there is a bit of a contradiction here.

@Salad, if Non was your only scumread, why didn't you push Non's slot or convince the others that what follows may be a mislynch, given that you didn't find my slot scummy? You don't question Datisi's answer to your question in , either, even though the answer was "things and stuff". You didn't ask Norway to elaborate on his answer, either. You just deemed the answers to be satisfactory, for some reason.

@Norway: What was concerning you when it comes to my slot?

Also, Map Wolf and Non Imh were quick to hop on the Jackson wagon as well. Hmm...

p-edit: @Datisi: Your answer in as well.

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:28 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 341, Ph0enix wrote:@Norway: What was concerning you when it comes to my slot?
Low content, not much for me to base a read on. Therefore i wanted to put some pressure on the slot.

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:29 am
by Ph0enix
In post 342, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 341, Ph0enix wrote:@Norway: What was concerning you when it comes to my slot?
Low content, not much for me to base a read on. Therefore i wanted to put some pressure on the slot.
Yeah, that's fair.

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:29 am
by NorwegianboyEE
oh yeah, and all those "om i'm so busyy~" posts that worried me. But since she replaced i'm thinking she was honest about it.

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:32 am
by Datisi
I suggest not looking at why they possible replaced out as an AI thing.

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:33 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Everything is AI.

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:56 am
by Ph0enix
In post 111, GayBabyJailor wrote:ive never seen map wolf start a wagon as town, only jump on other wagons
seems that's whats happening here too
this means i tr map wolf
Where's the logic here?

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:57 am
by Ph0enix
In post 112, GayBabyJailor wrote:also Norwegian is either PR or scum to me
Why PR specifically?

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:09 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Phoenix, how long have you been playing mafia?
Before joining here?