In post 310, Eevee wrote:I've played with RCEnigma two-ish times and he seems very different.
In post 283, RCEnigma wrote:Fwiw I don't think Frederick is with snow or ydrasse. Feel less strongly about Frederick not being with menalque.
Strongly believe menalque is not with snow or ydrasse since I know that he would know this is an anti-bus setup.
It seems a bit early to look for partners, no? And I think these conclusions come from very mild shade; not sure they mean much.
~Eva
The last 3-4 times this was used as a base argument against me have all been wrong. Links available if necessary but I see you're already falling into a bias.
I don't know how eliminating pairings is shady.
For the most part I'm not a huge fan of pre flip pairings, but I'm also not going to ignore interactions that I feel provide context for more informed hunting.
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:47 pm
by RCEnigma
Frederick comes off genuine. Didn't really think claiming there was no day talk to discredit Mohab made much sense in the first place.
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:22 pm
by Fredrick A Campbell
In post 327, RCEnigma wrote:Frederick comes off genuine. Didn't really think claiming there was no day talk to discredit Mohab made much sense in the first place.
I don't think the post quoted below was discrediting anyone.
In post 62, Homura wrote:Bear with me since I rarely play setups besides the Newbie one, but is Holden being post-restricted? I don't remember which game it was that had a player similarly bound by pirate-speak.
in contrast to Mohab's setup question - this i like
Homura usually plays newbie games and she's apparently played in game where a player had a pirate speak post restriction before so this is a legitimate question to ask
it being a legitimate question means she could've asked it in her scum PT or not suspected it in the first place if scum have said soemthing about the open setup in there
it's minor High Seas points to Homura - let's just say 1 actually i don't do halves
~Eve
I would like to point out that mafia doesn't have daytalk and Homura thus couldn't have asked it in the scum PT. Also, scum might not have said anything about the open setup in there, causing what we observed.
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:36 pm
by northsidegal
Prodding Homura and Sujimichi. Ydrasse is on V/LA and thus will not receive an official prod, but will receive a reminder to post.
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:53 pm
by Snowblaze
UNVOTE: Fredrick A Campbell, since that remark apparently wasn't a scumslip. Not sure who to vote for next; I'm slightly concerned I may have too many townreads.
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:12 pm
by Ydrasse
hello i have finally decided to try and dig my claws into this game but it has in fact meant the claws ended up in my brain. it's late here but i'll be here before work tomorrow.
@rc: can you walk me through your read on eevee. there seems to be a Moment (238/239) where you're speculating that they're scum/on a specific team and then throw them into a no-elimination pile in 262. what caused that turnaround?
@eevee: is meta the sole reason that snowblaze gets a little scum ping for having reads so early on? (145) you liked when umlaut provided a reads list that had little to substantiate it. (101) so i guess i don't see how the situations distinguish themselves from one another save for the meta...?
@fredrick: what reasons do you think i would have for not posting here as much? (303)
p-edit: i was already trying to read through this game pls
In post 327, RCEnigma wrote:Frederick comes off genuine. Didn't really think claiming there was no day talk to discredit Mohab made much sense in the first place.
I don't think the post quoted below was discrediting anyone.
In post 62, Homura wrote:Bear with me since I rarely play setups besides the Newbie one, but is Holden being post-restricted? I don't remember which game it was that had a player similarly bound by pirate-speak.
in contrast to Mohab's setup question - this i like
Homura usually plays newbie games and she's apparently played in game where a player had a pirate speak post restriction before so this is a legitimate question to ask
it being a legitimate question means she could've asked it in her scum PT or not suspected it in the first place if scum have said soemthing about the open setup in there
it's minor High Seas points to Homura - let's just say 1 actually i don't do halves
~Eve
I would like to point out that mafia doesn't have daytalk and Homura thus couldn't have asked it in the scum PT. Also, scum might not have said anything about the open setup in there, causing what we observed.
Err I meant Homura there. You aren't discrediting a read directly but by challenging Eevee's basis for defending Homura by pointing out no day talk it nullifies the reasoning eevee had.
But day talk can be confirmed or disconfirmed so it's not something scum would fake having or not having. I'm saying I don't think that's what you were doing there.
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:22 pm
by Fredrick A Campbell
In post 331, Ydrasse wrote:...
@fredrick: what reasons do you think i would have for not posting here as much? (303)
...
I am not going to give you the reasons I thought up so that you can use them. Give us your reasons.
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:25 pm
by RCEnigma
In post 331, Ydrasse wrote:@rc: can you walk me through your read on eevee. there seems to be a Moment (238/239) where you're speculating that they're scum/on a specific team and then throw them into a no-elimination pile in 262. what caused that turnaround?
It's not a turnaround, I said in 239 it wasn't a world I was evaluating yet since I townread most of the slots I included. Eevee's questioning is *mostly* indicative of solving and that's going to lead to stances and stances lead to scum. Regardless of their alignment their making the game easier to parse and aren't an option today.
I don’t see any reason to have paranoia on my TRs right now and I think 2 scum is very probable in that group, and especially if suji is scum or something it would explain a lot about the gamestate
I don’t see any reason to have paranoia on my TRs right now and I think 2 scum is very probable in that group, and especially if suji is scum or something it would explain a lot about the gamestate
You never hit me back about this, RCE
The gamestate feels very weird right now
Sorry, didn't see this.
Err sure there isn't much reason for paranoia because nothing's happened. 2 scum in that group could be true. But fmpov that only leaves snow and ydrasse and that feels too good to be true. Fred I town lean and Homura I sorta townlean via eevee.
If you're town I'd probably look back at your wagon formation but it never really went anywhere. None of the wagons have.
I think the game state is weird because everyone's shaking hands on townreads. Which could be inactive scum or scum agreeing and banking on a low info lurker lynch by deadline.
I don’t see any reason to have paranoia on my TRs right now and I think 2 scum is very probable in that group, and especially if suji is scum or something it would explain a lot about the gamestate
Also, you didn't mention suji in your initial scum grouping?
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:26 am
by Fredrick A Campbell
VOTE: Chemist1422
I would like to point out what this player has done is worse than Ydrasse. (citation)
A Day lasts for 12 real life days. All deadlines are available in the rules post. The current deadline for any phase is always located in post 0.
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:55 am
by Mohab500
Can I get some idea of the current wagon? skimmed the last few pages but everything seems so disconnected to me, I am not sure what's going on anymore.