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In post 321, bob3141 wrote:
As i've never seen you throw shade day one as town. And you're admitting here that you were deliberately throwing shade at me.


And your giving opinions far too easily too. I remember in the first two games I played with you getting reads or even a solid opinion out of you was like getting blood at stone.

Not that it's inherently bad but a town you is super cautious. And i'm not seeing anything in regards to that in your posting so far

VOTE: gerain

? I do nothing but sit here on day 1s saying "that is a crap post" at people, or "that is a bad wagon". that is shading isn't it?

you say I am giving loads of opinions this game?

In post 87, geraintm wrote:

In post 84, popopopopopopo wrote:In post 8, Klick wrote:Would this make me 4th or 5th?this was a very bad entrance. Looks super planned out, not 'off the cuff' at all. Plus an innocuous seeming RVS question like this, its a pointless post, but scum wanna look inquisitive right from the start of the game. This shit just pinged me all the wrong way.

I am of the opinion that calling this a bad entrance is clutching for a bag full of straws.

In post 172, geraintm wrote:so, I thought id try and work out why galron has had some many votes.

and, that aint a good iso I can understand people placing votes there. they aren't scummy, just...not much use

In post 173, geraintm wrote:thoughts on others - bob seems less active in this game than I am used to

is there someone in this game called Sujimichi????

dunnstarl hasn't done anything except their post 66

In post 201, geraintm wrote:

In post 197, notscience wrote:VOTE: bob

Let’s investigate him

they do seem a little different to what I would expect, to be sure

In post 203, geraintm wrote:

In post 202, Dunnstral wrote:What do you expect from bob?

I've been in a game where he was active enough day 1 as town to step in and try and stop a wagon that was about to lynch smeone they thought shouldn't be, and was high profile enough that they then got themselves lynched.

this game....not like that at all. very passive

In post 310, geraintm wrote:

In post 298, Klick wrote:The fact that you don't think it's worth a vote doesn't mean I don't think it's worth a vote.

I will mark you down for following weak thinking, and I will vote for people who repeatedly use others as an excuse to place their own vote.

I think those are all my opinions, that I am giving out too easily? do you want me to post...less than that? because to me the above is pretty null, just me occasionally going "Huh?" at people

In post 307, geraintm wrote:

In post 281, popopopopopopo wrote:

In post 203, geraintm wrote:

In post 202, Dunnstral wrote:What do you expect from bob?

I've been in a game where he was active enough day 1 as town to step in and try and stop a wagon that was about to lynch smeone they thought shouldn't be, and was high profile enough that they then got themselves lynched.

this game....not like that at all. very passive

less than 48 hours after game start you made this post lol

vote:geraint

your point being?

its a too early to make a meta read based on passivity, disingenuous

In post 326, popopopopopopo wrote:

In post 307, geraintm wrote:

In post 281, popopopopopopo wrote:

In post 203, geraintm wrote:

In post 202, Dunnstral wrote:What do you expect from bob?

I've been in a game where he was active enough day 1 as town to step in and try and stop a wagon that was about to lynch smeone they thought shouldn't be, and was high profile enough that they then got themselves lynched.

this game....not like that at all. very passive

less than 48 hours after game start you made this post lol

vote:geraint

your point being?

its a too early to make a meta read based on passivity, disingenuous

fair point.
I consider the whole of day 1 too early....

I agree with bob's case on geraintm seeming forced to the point it's scum indicative. The contrast geraintm pagetopped here with is compelling.

It seems like everyone has their own pet townread this game, but notscience's (imo poor) attempt at wagonomics a few pages back seemed town-indicative to me, so that's mine.

I don't want to put bob in claim range so early, although I might not be enthusiastic enough that I would vote anyway.

I think Klick continues to be scummy, so my vote's not in a bad place. Unless it's on Hoopla right now, I don't remember, but she always deserves it.

This post from popo seems a bit maf indicative to me, because it's possible to ascertain geras has to be geraintm if you view a votecount. It's something I'd imagine myself posting as mafia to get my content count up to the minimum rather than figuring it out myself and having less to post.
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Could people in this game please try to use preferred pronouns? I find it more mentally taxing to read posts if they're not used, because my instinct is to assume I misread an earlier part of the sentence and reread everything.

In post 328, Isis wrote:This post from popo seems a bit maf indicative to me, because it's possible to ascertain geras has to be geraintm if you view a votecount. It's something I'd imagine myself posting as mafia to get my content count up to the minimum rather than figuring it out myself and having less to post.

LOL

Isis your scumread on me feels incredibly easy.

What the fuck are you all doing while I’m asleep

Geras town hop the fuck off

In post 286, UnaBombaH wrote:

In post 263, notscience wrote:@hoops trade gera for Bella and I agree

Sell me on Bella?

Oop, oop oop... Big red flag for me, this one here.

I for one am shocked you are scumreading me again it’s almost like we have a playstyle clash we learned about last game

In post 291, Klick wrote:Mmm you might be right about this

Lolno

In post 288, Hoopla wrote:@una

is notscience scum? i don't want to believe it. i think it would break my heart.

He actively scumread me all last game hoops why, of everyone in this game, trust his read lol

VOTE: bella

Biggest not craptastic wagon

In post 330, Klick wrote:Isis your scumread on me feels incredibly easy.

I know, I don't trust it either

In post 323, Klick wrote:geraintm (5): UnaBombaH, Galron, popopopopopopo, Hoopla, bob3141

I'd argue this is a good checkpoint for a wagon indeed.

and when he flips green I’m coming for cotton candy.

In post 283, popopopopopopo wrote:

In post 276, notscience wrote:Geras pretty town I wouldn’t be voting him tbh

is geras geraint?

can you explain your town read or point to where you have already.

I def missed this

Literally my stance is the opposite of bobs re the same points- think him engaging this much is a towntell not a scumtell

Hoops your wagon has only one of your townbloc how could you be comfortable with it

In post 333, notscience wrote:

In post 286, UnaBombaH wrote:

In post 263, notscience wrote:@hoops trade gera for Bella and I agree

Sell me on Bella?

Oop, oop oop... Big red flag for me, this one here.

I for one am shocked you are scumreading me again it’s almost like we have a playstyle clash we learned about last game

Could be, but I can't help but get pinged by that post.
You are bargaining for gera to be in the top townreads, AND you ask for arguments why Bella should be town.
It's these two things together, especially when Bella had just been talked about.

Felt like you weren't paying attention, or just trying to force-feed something to Hoopla.
Their own reaction to this, and your followup?

In post 335, notscience wrote:

In post 288, Hoopla wrote:@una

is notscience scum? i don't want to believe it. i think it would break my heart.

He actively scumread me all last game hoops why, of everyone in this game, trust his read lol

First of all, apparently Hoopla saw something similar there. Or they are the one actually gaming me here, but I'm trying to avoid paranoia for now.
Second of all, this reaction from you again feels like bargaining.
Is it once again the feel of a soulread that makes you so certain Hoopla is town, AND that they should and would agree with you?

I really am trying to understand you here.

In post 341, notscience wrote:Hoops your wagon has only one of your townbloc how could you be comfortable with it

Regarding this btw, I really want to see where Bella goes next.
I really do not see Galron being todays lynch, but Bella seemed to think gera isn't a good lynch either (??).
I wonder if we are able to compromise on someone reasonable here.

I don’t really get how the second is bargaining. The point of townbloc did weighing in and having multiple people vet entries- I /literally/ did this last game for agar d1 which no one seems to remember.

Hoops said tonally bella is town which I missed at first but I reread and shared my findings about the same thing and reached a different conclusion altogether which was strange given how last game we were moving in pretty much lock step so I was curious for exactly where the tone was town so I could see the light in making bella the top tier townread. It’s because we were in lock step last game that this new game not being there feels weird.

And yes, clearly klick and hoopla saw *something* but rather than ask me they just agreed with you, and that irks me but I’m not sure it’s AI

@notscience - what do you think of these two posts in conjunction with each other?

In post 295, Hoopla wrote:^una steadfastly resisting the town bloc invitation.

okay okay, we get it. you're town. there's no need to convince us further with this coy display.

just relax and accept the rightful privilege afforded to the town bloc elite.

+

In post 311, Dunnstral wrote:Or he's scum and doesn't want to seem overeager, which yields a similar reaction. You pointing this out made me a bit suspicious of him.

Looking over t heir iso more closely, doesn't it seem like he''s maneuvering in a way where he sets himself up to suspect a few people, or pivot to certain players, while calling others town, it feels manipulative to me.

Like in 153, and 287 for his suspects

VOTE: UnaBombaH

Do you think there's anything AI happening here from either?

Maybe dunn in the red but nothing re hoops.

In post 344, notscience wrote:It’s because we were in lock step last game that this new game not being there feels weird.

I can definitely see this being an irritation.
Especially since the last game literally just ended.

In post 344, notscience wrote:And yes, clearly klick and hoopla saw *something* but rather than ask me they just agreed with you, and that irks me but I’m not sure it’s AI

So you think it might be AI for them to see something scummy in that post, like I did?
I'm not sure why it should annoy you if multiple people find something you say scummy.
If anything, I'd just mark it down as an "interaction" between four slots, and then maybe return to it with some flips for info.

I’m not sure it’s AI for them not to ask about it

Regardless I’m not backing down re gera this wagon is ass