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I was busy writing up a reply but since cake already pointed out gamma's bullshit I'm just going to be lazy and VOTE: gamma

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Votecount:
Alchemist21(5): Testarossa, Egix96, SirCakez, Iconeum, Echovision
Echovision(2): Datisi, Mizzytastic
Iconeium(1): Gamma Emerald
tris(1): UnabombaH
Datisi(1): tris
Gamma Emerald(1): Nero Cain
Not Voting(1):Alchemist21

In post 243, Datisi wrote:

In post 240, EchoVision wrote:there's a 75% chance that the two i named town are town and those are some pretty good odds

actually this is even worse math because odds aren't the same for two people because odds multiply but asjdks math

yes i know i'm a math ed major don't worry
i'm just chillin like a villain rn

In post 246, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 240, EchoVision wrote:

In post 239, Datisi wrote:echo you could answer the question i asked you about your reads

i could if i had a reason
idk if there's three or four scum with this player count so let's go for 3, that's 3/12 scum
that's 9/12 town
there's a 75% chance that the two i named town are town and those are some pretty good odds

Seeing as the game is 12 people, I think it’s extremely unlikely we have 4 scum
I’m kinda leaning this as a townslip, does anyone know if zany speculation like this is common from EV?
UNVOTE:

the only games i've played in the past like two years have been newbies so i'm used to 9 total but yeah 3 makes sense actually i thought this was more than 12 players if i'm being completely honest

In post 249, Gamma Emerald wrote:Scum would know the amount of scum right? I only really expect that to come from scum!EV if he posts a lot of things like that, which is why I asked

idk if that's really a town slip cause i could very easily just be playing dumb

In post 272, Datisi wrote:

In post 269, Nero Cain wrote:this kinda angsty angry post is sorta what I associate with newb town and remember of you. Hey I said it was silly.

on site for almost a year and a half, getting called newbtown... have we played together before?

i don't like how you have so much feeling in your posts but i guess it tags a little more as town than scum

In post 275, Egix96 wrote:

In post 234, EchoVision wrote:

In post 201, Gamma Emerald wrote: Or we can vote you out for deliberately obfuscating your motives

you could
feel free to if you really think that's the best course of action for day 1

So you're just... fine with being misyeeted, if town?

if the town collectively finds that to be the best course of action sure why not
vote analysis is a thing too

In post 278, SirCakez wrote:Anybody think Echo is leaning on their playstyle here to avoid actually scumhunting

that's actually precisely what i'm doing
props to you dog

In post 300, Alchemist21 wrote:

In post 177, EchoVision wrote:

In post 147, tris wrote:it looks like echo did this in his last game as well

don't meta dive me
if i wasn't already voting you i'd vote you just for that

Do you seriously have a problem with people trying to get meta on you?

Unrelated but I see Ico’s posting now so I’ll unvote.

UNVOTE:

yes i hate meta diving it's stupid and dumb
there's no reason that i can't act different in two very different games smh
hate that shit

In post 301, Alchemist21 wrote:

In post 181, EchoVision wrote:if i start out by playing like a dip shit then i don't have to explain myself to people which is significantly less work for me a

How often does that actually work out for you instead of you just getting voted out.

usually works out pretty well thanks for asking
don't remember the last time i got voted out

I guess you could argue that Gamma as scum wouldn't misrep cakes content like that but its still pretty bad.

In post 320, Gamma Emerald wrote:Icon also started posting in Kids With Lungs in response to pressure D2, so I don’t think becoming more active in response to pressure here is particularly Town-indicative. I think you probably took your vote off too early.

shouldn't be anything you can relate to, because IIRC that was a setup where D2 was in fact a lylo. Gamestate was excellent for us (scumteam), and we were just waiting for deadline to pressure town.

i'd love to see an EV wagon

VOTE: echovision

In post 330, EchoVision wrote:

In post 272, Datisi wrote:

In post 269, Nero Cain wrote:this kinda angsty angry post is sorta what I associate with newb town and remember of you. Hey I said it was silly.

on site for almost a year and a half, getting called newbtown... have we played together before?

i don't like how you have so much feeling in your posts but i guess it tags a little more as town than scum

What the hell does this mean

daitsi’s posts have a lot of emotion in them, whether it be anger, frustration, or whatever it may be
emotional posts are more of a town tell imo
i don’t like it, because i don’t think you should show as much emotion that datisis been showing in a game, but he has been and i think the emotion vies more for town!datisi than scum

also y’all seem like you universally scum read me and the fact that there’s not a wagon on me yet kind of concerns me
i’m about to get in the shower so i’m on mobile but i do want to go back and examine the people who tried to call me out but haven’t voted me
seems a little cautious in my eyes

In post 331, EchoVision wrote:

In post 275, Egix96 wrote:

In post 234, EchoVision wrote:

In post 201, Gamma Emerald wrote: Or we can vote you out for deliberately obfuscating your motives

you could
feel free to if you really think that's the best course of action for day 1

So you're just... fine with being misyeeted, if town?

if the town collectively finds that to be the best course of action sure why not
vote analysis is a thing too

But from your perspective, that's what scum want, and you ideally shouldn't want to die.

In post 335, EchoVision wrote:VOTE: testarossa

Why? You don't seem to have said anything about or to her prior to this point.

In post 340, EchoVision wrote: also y’all seem like you universally scum read me and the fact that there’s not a wagon on me yet kind of concerns me
i’m about to get in the shower so i’m on mobile but i do want to go back and examine the people who tried to call me out but haven’t voted me
seems a little cautious in my eyes

Really? There are three votes on you though, how does that not count?

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Echovision

Consider me unimpressed.

In post 307, Alchemist21 wrote:

In post 209, Egix96 wrote:I was thinking that scum wouldn't forget that they hadn't moved their vote.

Not really sure that’s a good reason to be Townreading someone.

Understandably not for a strong read, but that post did ring as genuine to me.

In post 185, UnaBombaH wrote:I'm a scumlean for voting tris, or..?

I chose to not explain my vote in full just to see what people would make it out to be.
But I do believe my vote was well placed, and townies should be able to see my PoV.
Obviously it's still early in D1, but so far I feel like there has been no reason to move anywhere either.

No, not your vote. Not directly.

It's half gut (or I just have yet to warm up with your persona, actually still have to then) the other half is more or less what tris addressed to, it looked like you found a good and easy enough vote to drop for the beginning and call it day without really interacting with tris in order to sort her. By what I got from your later posts now I think you are generally rather passive in that regard and see how things play out?

Ico's entrance isn't giving me any clear vibes yet. Maybe because he isn't directly picking a fight with someone like last time. I like Datisi questioning his townread on me though, that's actually the one read I am not really getting either, unless it was more a gut thing. Not feeling his Gamma read either, I don't think Gamma was that solvey at that point?

The wagon on him was pretty meh. Generally not a fan of pushing people who haven't even checked in and as some pointed out the reasons were rather eehh. To be fair though one could have assumed Ico was lurking, because at least I saw Ico being around in the forum several times, I think even posting elsewhere. But neither Alch nor Gamma mentioned it, so...

I am liking Nero's push on Gamma, at least I think he truly believes what he is seeing here, so I think this comes from a townie mindset.

@Nero:
I figure your Alch mindmeld, for which you are townreading him here, is more or less described in 228? I can get why you would think of him as town then, but why wouldn't he do these things as scum either? Taking the initiative on an inactive slot is a bit... underwhelming. Or rather just an experience thing?

Not liking Gamma on the recent pages, his handling of Ico, Cakez and the setup talk aren't really thrilling.

In post 297, Mizzytastic wrote: Nero feels light tunneled on Gamma. Not THIS MUST DIE but This is THE thing worthy of looking at right now. Gamma isn't really worried. Not really feeling SvT to me but I could guess I could see it coming from TvT or SvS where Gamma knows it's not something to worry about

I can get why you can see this as TvT or SvS, but why are you ruling out TvS? Even although Nero isn't deathtunneling Gamma here he is still taking some serious effort to draw the attention to Gamma.

In post 330, EchoVision wrote:

In post 272, Datisi wrote:

In post 269, Nero Cain wrote:this kinda angsty angry post is sorta what I associate with newb town and remember of you. Hey I said it was silly.

on site for almost a year and a half, getting called newbtown... have we played together before?

i don't like how you have so much feeling in your posts but i guess it tags a little more as town than scum

i read your further explaination but like what lol
if you think *those* posts are emotionally charged idk what to tell you

where did you get a feeling of frustration or anger from me so far?

echoing (haha) why is testa scummy to you etc

zzz i'll think harder about this game in the morning

oh also i have a tinfoil crackpot theory about someone here i'll share it later remind me

I’ll contribute in a bit, just need something else to get dealt with