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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:31 am
by Salsabil Faria
In post 323, Titus wrote:I see there's intent to hammer even if someone said not to. So it's claim time.
I am the doctor.
If you are the
doctor
, then NorwegianboyEE is the
scum
. Now the question is,
who is telleing the TRUTH??
Also, I find your arguments weak in compare to NorwegianboyEE's arguments.
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:32 am
by Salsabil Faria
telling* (gah!
)
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:34 am
by Zurel
In post 324, Trendall wrote:I've not played this setup before, so I guess that if somebody has drawn either Jailkeeper, Friendly Neighbour or Mason, they know that that's not true.
What do you mean?
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:39 am
by Trendall
Well the only possible setups with a doctor include either a tracker or a cop. So if a townsided person right now is any other town-sided power role (not a vanilla townie), then they know for definite that Titus must be mafia because they can't be in a setup with a doctor at the same time.
I dunno if they should claim or not though, like someone else knows that or can figure that out, I'm terrible at strategy.
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:42 am
by brassherald
At this point I will be searching for a replacement for wiyvern. VC to come when I have a working desk, which I need a power drill for and my in laws didn't have theirs available until today
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:44 am
by Trendall
Oh yeah we can't do anything drastic now until the wiyvern slot says something, because they might wanna counterclaim or whatever.
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:49 am
by Titus
In post 325, Salsabil Faria wrote: In post 323, Titus wrote:I see there's intent to hammer even if someone said not to. So it's claim time.
I am the doctor.
If you are the
doctor
, then NorwegianboyEE is the
scum
. Now the question is,
who is telleing the TRUTH??
Also, I find your arguments weak in compare to NorwegianboyEE's arguments.
That's because mine are in good faith and not rehearsed.
VLA today. It's Saturday and I normally play DnD with my friends. I may pop on intermittently.
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:49 am
by Zurel
In post 328, Trendall wrote:Well the only possible setups with a doctor include either a tracker or a cop. So if a townsided person right now is any other town-sided power role (not a vanilla townie), then they know for definite that Titus must be mafia because they can't be in a setup with a doctor at the same time.
I dunno if they should claim or not though, like someone else knows that or can figure that out, I'm terrible at strategy.
Oh, I get it. Yeah, anyone even hinting at a power role will definitely be targetted at night.
If Titus is scum, it's certainly advantageous of her that Wiyvern isn't around. This buys her more time. And how willing is everyone to risk lynching the town doctor? But she's also not saying much anymore, like she has given up trying to convince us.
Try to convince me. I'm gullible.
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:55 am
by Salsabil Faria
In post 332, Zurel wrote: In post 328, Trendall wrote:Well the only possible setups with a doctor include either a tracker or a cop. So if a townsided person right now is any other town-sided power role (not a vanilla townie), then they know for definite that Titus must be mafia because they can't be in a setup with a doctor at the same time.
I dunno if they should claim or not though, like someone else knows that or can figure that out, I'm terrible at strategy.
Oh, I get it. Yeah, anyone even hinting at a power role will definitely be targetted at night.
If Titus is scum, it's certainly advantageous of her that Wiyvern isn't around. This buys her more time. And how willing is everyone to risk lynching the town doctor? But she's also not saying much anymore, like she has given up trying to convince us.
Try to convince me. I'm gullible.
exactly my point! Titus is just making statements without giving any explanation, which is very shady behavior.
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:55 am
by Titus
In post 176, Titus wrote: In post 165, Zurel wrote:Well, all right then.
Actually Titus, can you explain why did you scumread Norway? I can't follow the reasoning, sorry.
You said you believed this person to be mafia because he was a mafia in a prior game. I would understand you voting him because of his meta or something. Yet you voted Norway instead, with a reasoning that I cannot see. If you would explain why, that would be nice, thank you.
I was guessing the reason behind Looter's RVS post in the post you quoted.
I originally voted Norway for his only scum deal in absolutes post. That itself is an absolute. That combined with his LAMIST post for defending lynchbait left me confident enough to vote. (LAMIST stands for look at me I am so town.)
Norway then shading me for voting L minus 1 during my catchup and getting all defensive leave me confident enough to vote there.
Norway has continued to be defensive and paint every response as bad. There's no substance to his posts. He townreads everyone who agrees with him. His scumreads, minus me, are just those who haven't posted.
He has zero desire to sort out if he's being buddied or not because he doesn't have to as scum. Notice the totak lack of paranoia at how fast I get run up.
This is either a) scum wagoning a threat or b) a revenge wagon for me fooling him before. I strongly think a due to a lack of sorting or really discussing the motivations of anyone else.
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:57 am
by Titus
It was also Friday night. I play video games with my friends Friday night. That's not giving up. It's called having a life.
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:57 am
by Zurel
I'm not sure if we are even on the same page, Salsabil...
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:00 am
by Salsabil Faria
In post 331, Titus wrote: In post 325, Salsabil Faria wrote: In post 323, Titus wrote:I see there's intent to hammer even if someone said not to. So it's claim time.
I am the doctor.
If you are the
doctor
, then NorwegianboyEE is the
scum
. Now the question is,
who is telleing the TRUTH??
Also, I find your arguments weak in compare to NorwegianboyEE's arguments.
That's because mine are in good faith and not rehearsed.
VLA today. It's Saturday and I normally play DnD with my friends. I may pop on intermittently.
What! It's not making any sense! Are you telling us for believing you only for your words (good faith!!)?? With such an important role, claming on day 1 is either a naive (but you're a SE) move or a scummy (you're lying) move
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:01 am
by Trendall
In post 332, Zurel wrote:
Oh, I get it. Yeah, anyone even hinting at a power role will definitely be targetted at night.
If Titus is scum, it's certainly advantageous of her that Wiyvern isn't around. This buys her more time. And how willing is everyone to risk lynching the town doctor? But she's also not saying much anymore, like she has given up trying to convince us.
Try to convince me. I'm gullible.
What occurs to me is if you're a mafia being lynched at this point, then a good thing to do is to claim a power role in the hope that some other actual power role counterclaims and you've found out who a good person to kill at night would be.
Your other option is claiming vanilla townie and hoping that the wagon comes off you, but then you don't get to find out who a power role is. I can't imagine that Titus feels they have much hope of the wagon coming off them right now, so it was inevitable at this point that Titus would always claim a power role.
So I guess with their claiming power role we have the exact same information as we did before and it's a matter of, if somebody can counterclaim it they can decide whether it's worth outing themselves to get Titus lynched or whether people are just going to press on with the lynch anyway.
I assume that this is like any other website though in that people have a set way of doing things and anybody who doesn't do this is mafia and so on (which is why I sometimes get called up for not making a random vote at the start of the game), so I wouldn't know.
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:03 am
by Titus
In post 337, Salsabil Faria wrote: In post 331, Titus wrote: In post 325, Salsabil Faria wrote: In post 323, Titus wrote:I see there's intent to hammer even if someone said not to. So it's claim time.
I am the doctor.
If you are the
doctor
, then NorwegianboyEE is the
scum
. Now the question is,
who is telleing the TRUTH??
Also, I find your arguments weak in compare to NorwegianboyEE's arguments.
That's because mine are in good faith and not rehearsed.
VLA today. It's Saturday and I normally play DnD with my friends. I may pop on intermittently.
What! It's not making any sense! Are you telling us for believing you only for your words (good faith!!)?? With such an important role, claming on day 1 is either a naive (but you're a SE) move or a scummy (you're lying) move
Claiming before getting executed is a common move for town. Instead of getting misexecuted, I get shot. Thus saving our execution for scum. It's quite a common thing to do as TL will say even if NorwegianboyEE won't.
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:04 am
by Trendall
If they are actual doctor then it is fine to claim there, like standard, yeah.
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:06 am
by Salsabil Faria
In post 336, Zurel wrote:I'm not sure if we are even on the same page, Salsabil...
I am agreeing with your point for doubting Titus
In post 332, Zurel wrote: In post 328, Trendall wrote:Well the only possible setups with a doctor include either a tracker or a cop. So if a townsided person right now is any other town-sided power role (not a vanilla townie), then they know for definite that Titus must be mafia because they can't be in a setup with a doctor at the same time.
I dunno if they should claim or not though, like someone else knows that or can figure that out, I'm terrible at strategy.
Oh, I get it. Yeah, anyone even hinting at a power role will definitely be targetted at night.
If Titus is scum, it's certainly advantageous of her that Wiyvern isn't around. This buys her more time. And how willing is everyone to risk lynching the town doctor? But she's also not saying much anymore, like she has given up trying to convince us.
Try to convince me. I'm gullible.
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:08 am
by Titus
Hey, you guys want me to try and persuade you but each time I post why NorwegianboyEE is scum I don't even get acknowledgement.
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:08 am
by Titus
In post 334, Titus wrote: In post 176, Titus wrote: In post 165, Zurel wrote:Well, all right then.
Actually Titus, can you explain why did you scumread Norway? I can't follow the reasoning, sorry.
You said you believed this person to be mafia because he was a mafia in a prior game. I would understand you voting him because of his meta or something. Yet you voted Norway instead, with a reasoning that I cannot see. If you would explain why, that would be nice, thank you.
I was guessing the reason behind Looter's RVS post in the post you quoted.
I originally voted Norway for his only scum deal in absolutes post. That itself is an absolute. That combined with his LAMIST post for defending lynchbait left me confident enough to vote. (LAMIST stands for look at me I am so town.)
Norway then shading me for voting L minus 1 during my catchup and getting all defensive leave me confident enough to vote there.
Norway has continued to be defensive and paint every response as bad. There's no substance to his posts. He townreads everyone who agrees with him. His scumreads, minus me, are just those who haven't posted.
He has zero desire to sort out if he's being buddied or not because he doesn't have to as scum. Notice the totak lack of paranoia at how fast I get run up.
This is either a) scum wagoning a threat or b) a revenge wagon for me fooling him before. I strongly think a due to a lack of sorting or really discussing the motivations of anyone else.
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:10 am
by Trendall
You might have to come at it from a different angle then because I don't agree with any part of your argument about NorwegianboyEE
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:10 am
by Zurel
In post 340, Trendall wrote:If they are actual doctor then it is fine to claim there, like standard, yeah.
How willing are you to risk lynching the doctor?
Also, let's say Titus survives the day and she doesn't get killed this night. Does it mean she can be said to be almost 100% scum?
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:12 am
by Titus
In post 345, Zurel wrote: In post 340, Trendall wrote:If they are actual doctor then it is fine to claim there, like standard, yeah.
How willing are you to risk lynching the doctor?
Also, let's say Titus survives the day and she doesn't get killed this night. Does it mean she can be said to be almost 100% scum?
If I survive the night, most setups would have a way of proving I was scum (I am not), so the proper scum move is to try and lynch me today.
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:13 am
by Salsabil Faria
In post 343, Titus wrote: In post 334, Titus wrote: In post 176, Titus wrote: In post 165, Zurel wrote:Well, all right then.
Actually Titus, can you explain why did you scumread Norway? I can't follow the reasoning, sorry.
You said you believed this person to be mafia because he was a mafia in a prior game. I would understand you voting him because of his meta or something. Yet you voted Norway instead, with a reasoning that I cannot see. If you would explain why, that would be nice, thank you.
I was guessing the reason behind Looter's RVS post in the post you quoted.
I originally voted Norway for his only scum deal in absolutes post. That itself is an absolute. That combined with his LAMIST post for defending lynchbait left me confident enough to vote. (LAMIST stands for look at me I am so town.)
Norway then shading me for voting L minus 1 during my catchup and getting all defensive leave me confident enough to vote there.
Norway has continued to be defensive and paint every response as bad. There's no substance to his posts. He townreads everyone who agrees with him. His scumreads, minus me, are just those who haven't posted.
He has zero desire to sort out if he's being buddied or not because he doesn't have to as scum. Notice the totak lack of paranoia at how fast I get run up.
This is either a) scum wagoning a threat or b) a revenge wagon for me fooling him before. I strongly think a due to a lack of sorting or really discussing the motivations of anyone else.
yeah, it's true that NorwegianboyEE is pushing everyone here to lynch you. Like, he is 100% sure that you're a scum, which is also weird!
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:14 am
by Titus
In post 344, Trendall wrote:You might have to come at it from a different angle then because I don't agree with any part of your argument about NorwegianboyEE
Would it matter at all the fact that I just creamed him as scum so he has a revenge motive to lie?
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:15 am
by Titus
In post 347, Salsabil Faria wrote: In post 343, Titus wrote: In post 334, Titus wrote: In post 176, Titus wrote: In post 165, Zurel wrote:Well, all right then.
Actually Titus, can you explain why did you scumread Norway? I can't follow the reasoning, sorry.
You said you believed this person to be mafia because he was a mafia in a prior game. I would understand you voting him because of his meta or something. Yet you voted Norway instead, with a reasoning that I cannot see. If you would explain why, that would be nice, thank you.
I was guessing the reason behind Looter's RVS post in the post you quoted.
I originally voted Norway for his only scum deal in absolutes post. That itself is an absolute. That combined with his LAMIST post for defending lynchbait left me confident enough to vote. (LAMIST stands for look at me I am so town.)
Norway then shading me for voting L minus 1 during my catchup and getting all defensive leave me confident enough to vote there.
Norway has continued to be defensive and paint every response as bad. There's no substance to his posts. He townreads everyone who agrees with him. His scumreads, minus me, are just those who haven't posted.
He has zero desire to sort out if he's being buddied or not because he doesn't have to as scum. Notice the totak lack of paranoia at how fast I get run up.
This is either a) scum wagoning a threat or b) a revenge wagon for me fooling him before. I strongly think a due to a lack of sorting or really discussing the motivations of anyone else.
yeah, it's true that NorwegianboyEE is pushing everyone here to lynch you. Like, he is 100% sure that you're a scum, which is also weird!
Exactly. He's too neat. He's too confident. Real town have flaws and errors. I am human. I have to analyze.