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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:06 pm
by HockeyFan
In post 315, LicketyQuickety wrote:I keep feeling like alstro is not really doing much. I feel like they are just posting to post - like they know they have to post something so they do, but none of it is really convincing because of so much hedging language (which is usually a Scum tell).
Agree but I think thier content has been /towny/ enough.
My reads are pretty similar to
231 except maybe havign strange as a tl, and margot to null
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:42 pm
by LicketyQuickety
In post 325, HockeyFan wrote: In post 315, LicketyQuickety wrote:I keep feeling like alstro is not really doing much. I feel like they are just posting to post - like they know they have to post something so they do, but none of it is really convincing because of so much hedging language (which is usually a Scum tell).
Agree but I think thier content has been /towny/ enough.
My reads are pretty similar to
231 except maybe havign strange as a tl, and margot to null
What are you seeing about Strange that is Townie? Hard for me to get a read there. Why did Margot move to Null?
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:08 pm
by MargotRosa
In post 317, LicketyQuickety wrote: In post 305, MargotRosa wrote:I don't know that LQ has done much to assuage my earlier suspicions. I feel like people backed down from the scum read mainly on the basis of it being a bit of a pile on, and the fact that once I spelled out what I saw as the difference between scum defensiveness and townie defensiveness it changed.
If I have your reasoning right for why I am Scum it is because my defensiveness changed after you said I was being defensive? And that just because the wagon developed doesn't mean I am Town? I can still be reasonable sometimes just like I can be defensive sometimes. When I explained to alstro that defensiveness isn't a Scum tell for me, the reached the conclusion that it is person dependent whereas you still think me being defensive is a Scum tell. I'm just trying to tell you here that being defensive isn't AI for me. Make of that what you will but it's true.
My point was more that this was the reason I saw that people backed down from SRing you. My reasoning has been detailed elsewhere, and my point was that you haven't done much to assuage those suspicions. You are far from LS for me, but definitely on my radar.
Not sure lol. I really need to think through it all. GTMH, it's Alstro, but I honestly don't know, because they've been acting pretty Townie recently
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:36 pm
by LicketyQuickety
In post 298, StrangeMatter wrote: In post 292, LicketyQuickety wrote: In post 285, StrangeMatter wrote:It’s not really a pattern from just one person if you ask me. It’s a pattern between two users from my experience and reading into a scum game where both T3 and Roden were scum.
Why do you think they would play it the exact same way again?
Just because you lose as scum doesn’t mean you can’t do that kind of stuff again at all, and thinking like that could end up with scum completely getting away with doing said risky play because it IS the play Town wouldn’t expect.
I just think that adds a lot of unnecessary WIFOM into the game. No reason to think the team is exactly T3 and Roden yet.
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 8:40 pm
by Egix96
In post 324, alstroemerial wrote:For now, I'm going to
VOTE: Egix to try to squeeze some more content out. Question for you: Has your read on LQ changed since
111 given that they've been particularly active, and since the whole slip discussion?
I won't be able to sit down and form a comprehensive, updated read until I am back from visiting my grandparents today, but for the time being I will say that I don't think it's a good idea to yeet the top poster on D1 unless there is a very compelling case for them being scum, because if they flip town it's a huge blow.
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 8:43 pm
by Egix96
In post 325, HockeyFan wrote: In post 315, LicketyQuickety wrote:I keep feeling like alstro is not really doing much. I feel like they are just posting to post - like they know they have to post something so they do, but none of it is really convincing because of so much hedging language (which is usually a Scum tell).
Agree but I think thier content has been /towny/ enough.
My reads are pretty similar to
231 except maybe havign strange as a tl, and margot to null
In post 327, MargotRosa wrote: In post 317, LicketyQuickety wrote: In post 305, MargotRosa wrote:I don't know that LQ has done much to assuage my earlier suspicions. I feel like people backed down from the scum read mainly on the basis of it being a bit of a pile on, and the fact that once I spelled out what I saw as the difference between scum defensiveness and townie defensiveness it changed.
If I have your reasoning right for why I am Scum it is because my defensiveness changed after you said I was being defensive? And that just because the wagon developed doesn't mean I am Town? I can still be reasonable sometimes just like I can be defensive sometimes. When I explained to alstro that defensiveness isn't a Scum tell for me, the reached the conclusion that it is person dependent whereas you still think me being defensive is a Scum tell. I'm just trying to tell you here that being defensive isn't AI for me. Make of that what you will but it's true.
My point was more that this was the reason I saw that people backed down from SRing you. My reasoning has been detailed elsewhere, and my point was that you haven't done much to assuage those suspicions. You are far from LS for me, but definitely on my radar.
Not sure lol. I really need to think through it all. GTMH, it's Alstro, but I honestly don't know, because they've been acting pretty Townie recently
Is anyone able to explain why they Tr Austro (blame phone) in less vague terms than this? As of yet I am unconvinced.
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:11 am
by T3
I don't know what to do rn
My reads are the same.
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:16 am
by Clasko
@Margot wrt your #305, I want to ask you where Egix and T3 place on your reads list update since you forgot to mention them?
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:17 am
by Clasko
Also wanna ask SM who their two strongest elimination candidates are rn for D1, and why?
I say two, because one is most likely me which you've hinted the potential reasons for in #279 and iterating that doesn't say much.
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:18 am
by Clasko
In post 330, Egix96 wrote:Is anyone able to explain why they Tr Austro (blame phone) in less vague terms than this? As of yet I am unconvinced.
... Nothing outside of gut, but I like them trying to get more information out of me by actually engaging, like, they aren't just making conclusions without follow-up, but I want to see more from them.
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:19 am
by Clasko
In post 308, Clasko wrote:I'll probably rearrange/update my reads list in #267 next time I check in because that post was kinda scattered towards the bottom, there.
This is still happening btw.
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:42 am
by Egix96
Smh,
250 looks worse now that I've reviewed LQ's posts and seen that he actually had a town lean on Clasko in
127.
On the other hand, I do get mild town feels from
157/
159, and as I mentioned earlier, I wouldn't want to jump to conclusions here if it just ends up all being for nothing.
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:48 am
by StrangeMatter
In post 333, Clasko wrote:Also wanna ask SM who their two strongest elimination candidates are rn for D1, and why?
I say two, because one is most likely me which you've hinted the potential reasons for in #279 and iterating that doesn't say much.
I say Roden or you right now is my top two candidates for scum has to be you and the former is honestly better to flip than your slot. Roden elim. To me, getting some information involving the meta (of T3 and Roden) is probably more useful than eliminating you because of what some people here consider a slip.
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:51 am
by StrangeMatter
VOTE: Roden
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:52 am
by StrangeMatter
Even if this flips green it means we still have some sort of information, so either way I think this vote is fine.
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:53 am
by HockeyFan
In post 326, LicketyQuickety wrote: In post 325, HockeyFan wrote: In post 315, LicketyQuickety wrote:I keep feeling like alstro is not really doing much. I feel like they are just posting to post - like they know they have to post something so they do, but none of it is really convincing because of so much hedging language (which is usually a Scum tell).
Agree but I think thier content has been /towny/ enough.
My reads are pretty similar to
231 except maybe havign strange as a tl, and margot to null
What are you seeing about Strange that is Townie? Hard for me to get a read there. Why did Margot move to Null?
Its mainly a meta read:
296. As for Margot Null, im not seeing enough content from them atm, sure their content at the very beginning was townish
In post 330, Egix96 wrote: In post 325, HockeyFan wrote: In post 315, LicketyQuickety wrote:I keep feeling like alstro is not really doing much. I feel like they are just posting to post - like they know they have to post something so they do, but none of it is really convincing because of so much hedging language (which is usually a Scum tell).
Agree but I think thier content has been /towny/ enough.
My reads are pretty similar to
231 except maybe havign strange as a tl, and margot to null
In post 327, MargotRosa wrote: In post 317, LicketyQuickety wrote: In post 305, MargotRosa wrote:I don't know that LQ has done much to assuage my earlier suspicions. I feel like people backed down from the scum read mainly on the basis of it being a bit of a pile on, and the fact that once I spelled out what I saw as the difference between scum defensiveness and townie defensiveness it changed.
If I have your reasoning right for why I am Scum it is because my defensiveness changed after you said I was being defensive? And that just because the wagon developed doesn't mean I am Town? I can still be reasonable sometimes just like I can be defensive sometimes. When I explained to alstro that defensiveness isn't a Scum tell for me, the reached the conclusion that it is person dependent whereas you still think me being defensive is a Scum tell. I'm just trying to tell you here that being defensive isn't AI for me. Make of that what you will but it's true.
My point was more that this was the reason I saw that people backed down from SRing you. My reasoning has been detailed elsewhere, and my point was that you haven't done much to assuage those suspicions. You are far from LS for me, but definitely on my radar.
Not sure lol. I really need to think through it all. GTMH, it's Alstro, but I honestly don't know, because they've been acting pretty Townie recently
Is anyone able to explain why they Tr Austro (blame phone) in less vague terms than this? As of yet I am unconvinced.
Idk man, its mainly vibes/tonal. I like
130 and
146 and thier recent content has been towny too
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 8:03 am
by T3
VOTE: alstromerial
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:16 am
by LicketyQuickety
In post 339, StrangeMatter wrote:Even if this flips green it means we still have some sort of information, so either way I think this vote is fine.
That's really really bad. Don't lynch for info unless you are doing some sort of calculations for it (which I will be calculating things during NP).
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:32 am
by LicketyQuickety
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:47 am
by StrangeMatter
In post 342, LicketyQuickety wrote: In post 339, StrangeMatter wrote:Even if this flips green it means we still have some sort of information, so either way I think this vote is fine.
That's really really bad. Don't lynch for info unless you are doing some sort of calculations for it (which I will be calculating things during NP).
I already did think over this, and I believe that this is just a better person to eliminate just from how they have been doing as having scum-like intent to me.
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:55 am
by LicketyQuickety
In post 344, StrangeMatter wrote: In post 342, LicketyQuickety wrote: In post 339, StrangeMatter wrote:Even if this flips green it means we still have some sort of information, so either way I think this vote is fine.
That's really really bad. Don't lynch for info unless you are doing some sort of calculations for it (which I will be calculating things during NP).
I already did think over this, and I believe that this is just a better person to eliminate just from how they have been doing as having scum-like intent to me.
How much of your read on Roden is based on the Scum team being exactly T3/Roden? I mean. I could consider that if Roden/T3 flip Scum, but doing pre-flip is generally a bad idea.
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:56 am
by T3
alstro is PoE.
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:56 am
by T3
Newbie games burn the soul.
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:58 am
by LicketyQuickety
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:59 am
by LicketyQuickety
VOTE: Strange
For being uh... strange.