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less than 48 hours to me is "I need to do something soon otherwise I die"

that's not point - it's not that you haven't done anything - you have. it's that your actions have clearly been to just stand in the background rather than call out anyone to do anything. i think you calling "this is how i play" is a fake excuse this game tbh

Yes Hiraki, that's what I've had the most success with.

In post 319, Taly wrote:I need someone to sit me down and explain their scumread on Ali because I'm not feeling this.

Mine boils down to #265, I got scum vibes from Ali reacting so strongly to Wisdom's #262, it makes me believe Wisdom was right with the idea that Alisae was scum watching me and Wisdom TvT. That and her posts around then shifted me from thinking it more likely Wisdom is scum to thinking it more likely Ali is.

Hiraki raised some other points in post 304.

For reference:

In post 256, Wisdom wrote:

In post 254, Alisae wrote:if I made a vote right now I feel like I would be coinflipping 50-50.
I need more information

Alisae wrote:Wis atm I think it's either you or him

Honestly you make me think you're just scum looking at a tvt and eating popcorn with such posts

In post 262, Alisae wrote:Like ya you could be town right on scum
or you can be scum trying to bully me into helping you complete your objective

how is going about this in this manor going to get me to help you?

You want to READ me?
Leave me the fuck alone and do what I do best, which is trying to read the actions of the other players in the table.

If you think Imaginality is scum, go fucking vote it and push it. It would be way more productive than voting me while also trying to 1v1 the guy and if people want to vote me you can just swap back anyways if u insist on maintaining this stance that I'm scum

In post 327, Alisae wrote:Yes Hiraki, that's what I've had the most success with.

no - that explicitly contradicts what you've said and done this game, you even say here

In post 322, Alisae wrote:i know find that the playstyle I have the most success with is to let everyone do whatever it is they want to do, watch their actions, and find scum based on what I think scum would be doing in the gamestate and who is performing those actions.

i'm good with 1 & 2 here. i actually think you do this. i think 3 is something that you haven't done but you're trying to make everyone believe that you have done it. you're voting wisdom for...

In post 322, Alisae wrote:If I was actually scum Wis would be pushing me harder for being obvscum or I pocket Wis. It can't be that hard, I've done it before. Usually when I'm scum I have some kind of agenda. Part of this is why I lean Wisdom > Imaginality right now, I feel like Wis probably shouldn't be reading me as scum, and I feel like I was talking to a scum!RadiantCowbells when the guy was trying to talk me into voting Imaginality. Also, I can't figure out who Imaginality would even be teamed with. Wis + Bingle team makes sense.

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if i go further back, it's just subtle hints of shade. it's not scumhunting

if I flip town will you be wary of Wis and Bingle?
I think they're teamed

I just don't understand why scum- would vote here.

The only town-motivated reason I can think for to try and get going was to see if they were partners or if would take a bite out of for survivalism.

In post 292, Wisdom wrote:

In post 288, Taly wrote:Walk me where you think Ali/Imaginality S/S is possible.

Theyre two of my three scumreads
But even disregarding that I dont see where you take issue
If Ali is town

I'm asking him to go for my other scumread and convince me to vote there

If Ali is scum

Im making him vote one of my other scumreads

There's only 2 scum in this game. One of your scumreads must be incorrect.

Your assessments strike as odd to me because your trying to point towards going after and eliminating someone you ALREADY THINK is scum.

The threat that you want to eliminate :

In post 225, Wisdom wrote:Ali you wanna live?
Read my points about Imaginality and vote there

Followed by expecting them to vote there for their survival is largely a behavior I would associate to be scum. So your interaction with felt like a moment when they didn't vote for you.

In post 330, Alisae wrote:if I flip town will you be wary of Wis and Bingle?
I think they're teamed

not bingle but potentially more of wisdom

In post 300, imaginality wrote:Taly, Bingle, Mom
Do you think there are two scum among {me, Alisae, Wisdom}? If yes who? If no which pair are the most likely to be TvTing?

I think there is 1 scum in that group, S-S is far-fetched, really doubt it's .

I feel weird about how heated up only accelerated wagon, who was already voted by one of them. That trajectory doesn't read as sincere or logical because didn't actively fuel one side of the argument over the other. I get that that is what scumread for, but I don't think it's unlikely that town would refrain from giving a solid stance, or not have one.

In post 265, imaginality wrote:Wisdom, you were calling my earlier post manipulative. Ali's #262, now that's manipulative.
I buy the popcorning scum theory.

VOTE: Alisae

Ali warning you not to push her to decide between us too soon makes me think I'm the 8-ball and she's wanting to see if there's enough interest to get me eliminated over you while perfectly happy to see you go also.

How does this thought change with voting ?

In post 302, imaginality wrote:Oh also, explain where I "pull Alisae's teeth for a vote when she's at L-1 or L-2" because that's a blatant misrep.

Oh sorry... you didn't pull , you agreed with theory that was scum for not wanting to be pushed into voting you...

What were your expectations of both slots, assuming you considered town motivation for both of them?

In post 321, the worst wrote:because i want someone else to do it first so i can sheep them and pretend it was my idea all along

Is this a clue? It can't be someone currently voted or recently voted?

That only leaves and ?

Other slots have my attention at the moment.

In post 332, Hiraki wrote:

In post 330, Alisae wrote:if I flip town will you be wary of Wis and Bingle?
I think they're teamed

not bingle but potentially more of wisdom

bingle stands out to me because I feel like they're supporting what Wis wants to do

In post 322, Alisae wrote:Bingle can read me well, I don't believe that guy actually reads me as scum

I can (or at least, I could in the long long ago, we haven't played recently other than that game where I replaced into doomed scum) and I'm not. I don't really have a read on you, which is kinda sorta the problem and also kinda sorta why I'm prodding you over your weird takes wrt me (because they're basically the only thing I can prod you over).

If I actually scumread you I'd be voting you instead of my halfassed vote on imaginality.

I think no one cares about what Taly has to say and Taly is going to go tooth and nail to try to derail the wagon when no one cares.
Very sadge.

In post 316, the worst wrote:

In post 303, Bingle wrote:

In post 245, the worst wrote:reaction to being epically pranked was kinda towny though smh

Mine or Taly's? I'm not gonna lie, Taly not realizing that was a joke post kinda threw me for a loop and I'm not sure what to think about it.

I now think Mom and Wisdom are town. what reality are we win smh.

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

Am I the only one getting the impression that duck is actively trying to make my brain explode?

I feel like I should change my vote at the moment but I really need more time than 15~ hr to sort indefinitely.

I still scumread but it has wavered since he's actually giving some thoughts. My scumread still remains because it feels like their posts consists of asking for a simplified answer to something instead of having some depth of thought, and their reservation for seemingly very confident reads.

Granted, I'm biased in a way against him because I disagree with his solve.

my reads are shit but luckily for me it seems like they will remain irrelevant in this pl

Why as the most likely partner, ?

335

Mmm, I can see what you're thinking but by himself, doesn't read as scum to me.

Where are you at with ?

I need to get off tonight soon but I really need to be posting so I can have a final vote decision... which will probably be 3-5 hr before deadline when I wake up.

But that's probably too late to vote.

Also reading back and seeing townreading me, haha, I'm going to feel like shit if I mislim here.

Gun to head at this moment, I'd be voting . The is an almost unrealistic level of confbias, seems more likely to be scum. The scumread also feels understated but it has been apparent since 71, so it's more difficult to gauge how naturally it generated.

Though, I don't follow trajectory, and I am waiting on answers from them. I also disagree with their POV on thinking they're the 8ball in most any scenario or what he intended with his believing slipped by TMIing a townread on me.

I mean, if wanted to push the notion that TMI'ed me as town, then comments like:

In post 229, imaginality wrote:It's obvious I think Taly isn't obvtown (I do lean town in Taly but I don't see anyone as obvtown yet).

are lukewarm in sorting me, and not congruent with the strength of suspicion towards . Is this true, ?

I'm going to bed, but I think I've thought as far as my bird brain will take me and I think I've given enough to address to help me sort.

VOTE: imaginality

hiraki and bingle fascinate me

why?

can't put my finger on it