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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:20 am
by Farren
In post 323, cyrus62 wrote:Normally scum use me as lhf I'm always scum read as town and more so as scum. But save by the bell also said I was town to the point I feel uneasy with how easy I'm being town read.
wait, I'm misreading the situation. Forget about that line of inquiry. I was parsing 318 as if you were thinking Hakai was scum, but that's wrong; you were thinking of Hakai as Town.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:23 am
by cyrus62
In post 322, Farren wrote: In post 318, cyrus62 wrote:It's his play stateing I'm out of my scumrange is puzzling to me. But I think scum wouldn't give up a easy elemation like that.
Are you out of your scumrange?
That depends on what game we are talking about. You see in 2019 my scum range was better before heart ake struck. On my 1st scum game I had found two prs on day one and was town read by everyone playing. So going by that I say my scum range has no limits. But 2021 i been easy to catch as scum so out of my scum range for 2021 yes but maybe I found a way to dip in to my past scumrange.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:24 am
by Pavowski
Also, just on the win today / win later argument, my understanding is that after D1 if our coalition fails (contains scum) the game basically becomes mountainous... Town just knows there was >0 scum in the coalition.
So it's not like we can just eliminate the coalition and win if 2 scum were inside. Scum can still night kill and may well kill outside the coalition in that case.
Maybe math disproves me on that but I'm phone posting from work and just wanted to get this out there.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:27 am
by cyrus62
Save the dragons is right I play mafia the same way I live I post what's ever on my mind . But I also try to get town fighting each other so I can be the voice of reason lol.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:29 am
by cyrus62
In post 327, Pavowski wrote:Also, just on the win today / win later argument, my understanding is that after D1 if our coalition fails (contains scum) the game basically becomes mountainous... Town just knows there was >0 scum in the coalition.
So it's not like we can just eliminate the coalition and win if 2 scum were inside. Scum can still night kill and may well kill outside the coalition in that case.
Maybe math disproves me on that but I'm phone posting from work and just wanted to get this out there.
This is town to me.and I agree. All we would know is one or two of the five is scum. Then we would fight over who we think is scum out of the five.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:30 am
by cyrus62
In post 326, cyrus62 wrote: In post 322, Farren wrote: In post 318, cyrus62 wrote:It's his play stateing I'm out of my scumrange is puzzling to me. But I think scum wouldn't give up a easy elemation like that.
Are you out of your scumrange?
That depends on what game we are talking about. You see in 2019 my scum range was better before heart ake struck. On my 1st scum game I had found two prs on day one and was town read by everyone playing. So going by that I say my scum range has no limits. But 2021 i been easy to catch as scum so out of my scum range for 2021 yes but maybe I found a way to dip in to my past scumrange.
Going we post this for nathann and ferren.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:31 am
by cyrus62
I like to form my Poe by page 15 or later. I think page 25 for this game would be smarter.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:33 am
by Save The Dragons
i can spam the thread and we can get there quicker
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:34 am
by Farren
In post 327, Pavowski wrote:Also, just on the win today / win later argument, my understanding is that after D1 if our coalition fails (contains scum) the game basically becomes mountainous... Town just knows there was >0 scum in the coalition.
So it's not like we can just eliminate the coalition and win if 2 scum were inside. Scum can still night kill and may well kill outside the coalition in that case.
Maybe math disproves me on that but I'm phone posting from work and just wanted to get this out there.
No, you're right.
If the Coalition fails, we know there are (1-2) scum and (3-4) Town in it, and we'll be able to absorb two miseliminations without losing. Three miseliminations costs us the game.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:34 am
by Save The Dragons
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:40 am
by cyrus62
Please don't that would make it harder.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:41 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
Provided we don't win, players outside the coalition are more likely to be NKed by scum so as not to reduce the POE within the coalition - at least until 1 scum is found.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:41 am
by cyrus62
Convice me ssbm is town.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:43 am
by cyrus62
In post 336, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Provided we don't win, players outside the coalition are more likely to be NKed by scum so as not to reduce the POE within the coalition - at least until 1 scum is found.
Repetijg what was already said the s just trying to look like your helping.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:44 am
by Save The Dragons
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:44 am
by cyrus62
I don't buy ssbm is town I'm a bit less conviced ferren is town.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:46 am
by Save The Dragons
i feel like i have 4 but i'm still a little wary of Pav but i think he's good
having trouble coming up with my fifth Farren Hakai and yessirree all are OKAY but not town enough for me yet
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:46 am
by Save The Dragons
i also might be good with enchant? I don't know if scum pulls that play
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:47 am
by cyrus62
HURT: ferrenHEAL: cyrus there now I feel better about my 5
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:49 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
I don't think it was already said. Putting it out there because it's factoring into my decisionmaking now. I think it would be useful for others to consider as well. Put players that might be harder to read outside the coalition to force scum into NKing them if they are town. makes scum reduce their own chances in ELO.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:49 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
HURT: STD
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:50 am
by cyrus62
Enchant getting mad over not being town read and trying to put scum in the five is not playing to town wincon.
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:50 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
HEAL: Cyrus
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:51 am
by ssbm_Kyouko
HEAL: Pavowski
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:51 am
by cyrus62
In post 327, Pavowski wrote:Also, just on the win today / win later argument, my understanding is that after D1 if our coalition fails (contains scum) the game basically becomes mountainous... Town just knows there was >0 scum in the coalition.
So it's not like we can just eliminate the coalition and win if 2 scum were inside. Scum can still night kill and may well kill outside the coalition in that case.
Maybe math disproves me on that but I'm phone posting from work and just wanted to get this out there.
@ssbm pav said it if you anit reading and you anit helping you are scum.