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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:34 pm
by Save The Dragons
Also pan: d1 actions cant be scummy
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:34 pm
by Save The Dragons
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:35 pm
by Pan Smierc
Notice: I am still allowing you to engage and explain your own thought process and ellaborate
you are shutting me down and trying to avoid expanding or complicating your read on me - despite D1 being a low info gamestate.
This is an incredibly bad look for you - and a good look for me. Let's say - theoretically, I am scum and you are town - you are simple handing me an easy mislim in you by refusing to ellaborate or engage with me in good faith.
But if I'm indeed scum here - you can easily shut me down and restrict my pushes even more by responding and displaying your own towniness -> The choice is yours.
Now- I am town here and if you do show you are town I will probably shift my primary attention to Klick, who I believe is under the radar trying to look good > solving the game(I do not trust that their townread on me is genuine or in good faith - as their actions do not line up around it, as one would trust their townreads to an extent to not just shade them and hedge it)
Regardless, I digress.
StD, I know you're capable of analysis. And I have an ace up my sleeve meta wise that I have saved to respond with pending your response - I will bring it up for discussion pending your elaboration, something I know town!you is able to do.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:37 pm
by Save The Dragons
Good luck with that
You wouldn't engage me earlier why am I supposed to engage you now
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:38 pm
by Pan Smierc
I am giving you this charatibility because you have a near 0% read rate towards my main. I have gotten you mislimmed when scum before too - but once you know who I am I will point out that I was simply very simple and very much like you are doing towards me, shoved actions = scum narrative at you to get you mislimmed.
I have laid out my thought process behind the actions you are supposedly claiming to be scummy - Why do you think I am lying/disingenuine?
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:39 pm
by Pan Smierc
Because you are older than a toddler.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:39 pm
by Pan Smierc
But if you'd like i can treat you like a toddler if you wish to act like one.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:39 pm
by Save The Dragons
Maybe when I have a little more time I'll go into further analysis
My problem with you is you are all over the place
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:40 pm
by Save The Dragons
That is actually incorrect. I know who you are.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:40 pm
by Save The Dragons
I've tred you correctly before
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:42 pm
by Save The Dragons
In post 331, Pan Smierc wrote:But if you'd like i can treat you like a toddler if you wish to act like one.
I dont remember playing with scum you but probably have. But I've played with town you and have been right about it. This doesn't feel right to me.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:45 pm
by Save The Dragons
In post 327, Pan Smierc wrote:you are shutting me down and trying to avoid expanding or complicating your read on me - despite D1 being a low info gamestate.
You are guilty of this. I asked you an honest question and you called me scum
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:59 pm
by Pan Smierc
Ok well going in circles semantically trying to point out 1 small thing the other did or didn't do isn't helpful - I'm pushing that aside now myself.
I've had too many moments where I felt someone was way off their town meta and I was clown level incorrect - so consider that this may be a situation like that - its early into d1, be flexible.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:00 pm
by Pan Smierc
What was the honest question? What likely happened was I called you scum for something other than the question - because I don't remember a question being part of my reasoning - and I likely either missed the question or deemed it unimportant, something I often do.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:01 pm
by Save The Dragons
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:01 pm
by Save The Dragons
You pinged me for lack of action but other people on the why wagon hadn't done much either iirc
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:20 pm
by Pan Smierc
I am currently scumreading Klick- who is part of it + it is a fair point I i didn't really give much thought to moz, but to be fair I cannot pay attention to everyone at the same time. I thought their entrance was tonally towny I believe and I sorta let it slide. I don't remember who else voted there and I think if it was ben I had reasons to townread them while with you, you had nothing that showed you as town.
I hope that's satisfactory.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:22 pm
by Pan Smierc
I cede it's fair to believe from your point of view that I was being intentionally hypocritical towards you so I'll give you some space to breathe. You're putting a lot of energy into the thread though and that leans +town for me typically and with that kind of play it is easier to reeval later on energy shifts.
VOTE: Klick
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:23 pm
by Pan Smierc
man its actually really easy to be nice and not aggressive and try to communicate without being mean huh
i should try this more often
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:32 pm
by DkKoba
"I replaced in claimed weak vig and voted you
i thought i buried you but town did the work for me lul
And I feel the same about you - I think your start was a bit awkward to begin with in a way that was distinct from your town games and your insistence on policying was uncharacteristic when compared to, Charge Me Up! for instance where you showed a more holistic analysis of the board on D1 and had reads on several slots- and the fact that Not_Mafia was there too.
I'm point out these things so perhaps you can clear up the disparity if you may, not because this is a locked in thing that I am using against you - I completely understand each game is different.
Been a little tunnely lately and failing other than my Large Normal performance of catching 3/4 scum and PoEing the last one, so I'm a lot more patient/cautious so if you're reading me in good faith - that may be also part of what you're seeing + my fancy pants play of trying to sus out scum via traitor telling"
i had this typed up in a tab earlier but i forgor what i was gonna finish with so im just gonna hit send on the draft cuz i might as well share thoguhts i had
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:45 pm
by Pan Smierc
In post 344, DkKoba wrote:"I replaced in claimed weak vig and voted you
i thought i buried you but town did the work for me lul
And I feel the same about you - I think your start was a bit awkward to begin with in a way that was distinct from your town games and your insistence on policying was uncharacteristic when compared to, Charge Me Up! for instance where you showed a more holistic analysis of the board on D1 and had reads on several slots- and the fact that Not_Mafia was there too.
I'm point out these things so perhaps you can clear up the disparity if you may, not because this is a locked in thing that I am using against you - I completely understand each game is different.
Been a little tunnely lately and failing other than my Large Normal performance of catching 3/4 scum and PoEing the last one, so I'm a lot more patient/cautious so if you're reading me in good faith - that may be also part of what you're seeing + my fancy pants play of trying to sus out scum via traitor telling"
i had this typed up in a tab earlier but i forgor what i was gonna finish with so im just gonna hit send on the draft cuz i might as well share thoguhts i had
oh hey i mainslipped finally but yeah xD
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:46 pm
by Pan Smierc
not like I was subtle about it personality wise
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:47 pm
by Save The Dragons
I'll stew on it a little bit
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:50 pm
by DArby
Lmao and here I was interacting with Pan expressly with my experience with Koba and now I know why.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:51 pm
by DArby
Well Koba and Norwe, but still.