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In post 323, GuiltyLion wrote:Dwlee has 5 posts and none of them strike me as Towny Posts that especially Town Town. if you disagree with that, point me to the town post that I missed. so anyone with a TR there is already kinda inherently odd to me.

meanwhile, I have some 46 posts. I'll grant that there's almost certainly reasons to worry about or suspect me in those 46 posts, especially since I also don't think I'm a player that should be easily townread. that's the nature of mafia

however, I think from a general probability sense, if you're looking at two players and thinking you have more confidently sorted the one with 5 posts as not-scum than the player with 46, on D1 without any flips for associatives or hard information, then I would say

at best

you are biasing, either against me or pro-Dwlee. when you have Dwlee as town and me as scum at this point, especially in part

because

I'm voting Dwlee, to me it feels like you're suggesting that a dwlee redflip would surprise you more than a GL greenflip. I have a hard time grokking that perspective.

In post 251, humaneatingmonkey wrote:

In post 199, marcistar wrote:VOTE: Meuh

is this rvs? can you share your read on Meuh?

In post 71, Meuh wrote:Good morning everyone!!! Let’s obliterate scum

VOTE: tictac

In post 203, Meuh wrote:

In post 111, DkKoba wrote:let me give you a list of players who have played in a game with me before:


tictac
Testarossa
marcistar
ChaosOmega
Meuh
GuiltyLion
DkKoba
Dwlee99
Gamma Emerald
Not Known 15
Roden
humaneatingmonkey

When have we ever played together?

In post 333, marcistar wrote:u cant tell me theres no difference

In post 55, GuiltyLion wrote:

In post 10, Dwlee99 wrote:VOTE: Guilty lion
Not letting you get past me again

Well hello to you too!

VOTE: Dwlee99

Dwlee, can you link me to any prior town games of yours where you RVS voted someone based on a past game together like this? I think this style of RVS intro vote is slightly +scum, it's an easy/convenient reason to plop down your first vote and I'm also a lil pinged that you didn't really say hi or otherwise engage me directly

In post 93, GuiltyLion wrote:

In post 86, GuiltyLion wrote:I never said nor meant to imply you were lying about it, I believe you. My issue is rather that you brought it up at all. who cares if koba thinks you are "frozen" or not?? you chose to say your IRL reason for not posting in the game just a couple hours into gamestart, it's the fact that you compelled to do that to reply to Koba that bothers me, not the reasoning itself. if his frozen accusation has no validity because it had no bearing on your alignment, why bring up something that has no bearing on your alignment (being out with friends) in response, especially when it's not like anyone else was agreeing with or sheeping Koba?

ehhh actually I'm thinking about this more and I'm not sure it's an especially great point

I think the main thing I didn't like is this idea that a. because you are out with friends and therefore not frozen scum, b. we're supposed to believe that you're town

but I'm realizing in fairness if you

know

you're town, it might make sense as a response, and I might be assuming/projecting b) when you didn't mean to suggest it to that degree.

I do think you're being defensive but that might be more of a personality trait here

In post 326, GuiltyLion wrote:I got into this exact argument literally just in my last game and I was right about redtea there too, who was being read as town for being "lazy" and not solving and oops turns out the simple obvious explanation was correct and they were scum.

I think townreading Dwlee for this "image management" point is bad. If your argument is that Dwlee knows how to be townread for "image" as scum then they owe it to us to image themself equally as town so that we don't mistakenly suspect them. Being so quick to get defensive at the first sign of pressure from koba is not inherently townie. I don't even care about any of the traitor reaction test stuff cause I can't read it myself, my read is all about the tepid RVS vote and the defensive response to being called frozen.

In post 338, marcistar wrote:though maybe yeah idk

i remember there was one game where he didnt care about the wagon size of who he was pushingtho i cant remember the name

i still like voting meuh better tho bestie

In post 334, humaneatingmonkey wrote:lion thinks dwlee is scum for being "frozen".

In post 344, DkKoba wrote:GL, is HEM town?

In post 334, humaneatingmonkey wrote:he later reinforces that he finds Dwlee still scummy for these reasons, backtracking on his progress on the slot

In post 334, humaneatingmonkey wrote:because he still wants to pressure his nullread Dwlee (whose wagon has fizzled out)

In post 334, humaneatingmonkey wrote:the answer is he's not town, and he's trying hard not to escalate.