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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:08 am

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My vote it to vote Gibus then.
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:09 am

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In post 321, Crescent wrote:Dismissive =/= evasive.

not in my eyes. you are yet to address why you so strongly believed gibus' vote not to be random page 2 and therefore enough for a blanket town read.
you are yet to address your change in general post content going from #146. why did your reads only solidify after my post? My initial feeling of you acting defensive still stands.

eh, alea iacta est I guess.
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:12 am

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Basically though, even a train on *me* is better than what we currently have. We then have votes to analyze and an actual player under pressure. There's so little here to actually analyze.

And if NM continues to do absolutely nothing we just murder him later. Those 4 votes aren't doing anything useful being there at the moment. It's not helping game solve or generate content.
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:14 am

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In post 326, Eiralox wrote:
In post 321, Crescent wrote:Dismissive =/= evasive.

not in my eyes. you are yet to address why you so strongly believed gibus' vote not to be random page 2 and therefore enough for a blanket town read.
you are yet to address your change in general post content going from #146. why did your reads only solidify after my post? My initial feeling of you acting defensive still stands.

eh, alea iacta est I guess.
Because I thought his "stick to the basics line" meant he had an actual reason for voting me. I had already answered this question.

You came off as genuinely angry and spiteful. I don't believe it's fake. I had already answered this question.
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:20 am

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In post 322, Crescent wrote: We have less than 3 days left and an 8-way vote split. This is a
nightmare scenario
for town. We have virtually no control over who gets voted off like this and no way of actually pressuring anyone.

I said this immediately when I saw how split the vote is. If you're town and not alarmed by that vote spread that's a you problem.

It doesnt matter who scum is. They've loved how this day has progressed so far. This goes double if NM is town.
then lets just no vote, that surely has to be better than what you are expecting to happen
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:21 am

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In post 329, geraintm wrote:
In post 322, Crescent wrote: We have less than 3 days left and an 8-way vote split. This is a
nightmare scenario
for town. We have virtually no control over who gets voted off like this and no way of actually pressuring anyone.

I said this immediately when I saw how split the vote is. If you're town and not alarmed by that vote spread that's a you problem.

It doesnt matter who scum is. They've loved how this day has progressed so far. This goes double if NM is town.
then lets just no vote, that surely has to be better than what you are expecting to happen
So you bring up the one scenario that's
even worse
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:27 am

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In post 328, Crescent wrote: Because I thought his "stick to the basics line" meant he had an actual reason for voting me. I had already answered this question.

You came off as genuinely angry and spiteful. I don't believe it's fake. I had already answered this question.
In post 49, Crescent wrote:'Cause an entire day had passed and his "sticking with the basics" line suggests having an actual reason to vote that wasn't strong enough to actually go into detail on.
Crescent
, idk if u missed gibus's jokey nature(i'm making assumptions) but well.. any vote at the very start of day one will be a random vote, unless it's made by scum. My analysis of Gibus here is that 'sticking to the basics' means voting for cat lovers, which they might have assumed due to your meow in #16. (This theory of canine fascism is further supported by Gibus' vote on Elsa)(So hard reason? No. Soft cat reason? probable, therefore i consider it random unless it is a scum-clearing vote, ie. vote for buddy early to set the record.
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I'm not angry nor spiteful, merely serving my purpose. but i get i've been hyper-focusing on you and as I said, alea iacta est. I think i've made the points I wanted to make. Address them if you want, or don't.
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:29 am

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ugh qoute came out all wonky i was qouting my #287
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:31 am

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Mafias just need to play better than the worst looking players in town.

Where would you look if you didn't have to look at NM or gibus, for now?
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:33 am

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Interestingly enough, an ISO of Gibus shows he defended Gera and George at the same time but otherwise has done virtually nothing this game.

And to look further... Both Gera and Gibus have both defended George at one point, and Gibus/Gera have defended each other at one point. Them all being scum would be too easy, but there is a very very high chance there's at least one scum in Gera and Gibus buddying up here.
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:37 am

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In post 333, Vivax wrote:Mafias just need to play better than the worst looking players in town.

Where would you look if you didn't have to look at NM or gibus, for now?
I think if the name starts with a G, they're worth pressuring right now. Way too much internal defense in that cluster for me to think it's all town.
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:38 am

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(And all three of them have independent reasons to have scum equity that don't even relate to each other.)
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:38 am

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Wait damnit there's a 4th G.

You know the three Gs I mean. GB, Gera, and Gibus,
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:43 am

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In post 334, Crescent wrote:Interestingly enough, an ISO of Gibus shows he defended Gera and George at the same time but otherwise has done virtually nothing this game.

And to look further... Both Gera and Gibus have both defended George at one point, and Gibus/Gera have defended each other at one point. Them all being scum would be too easy, but there is a very very high chance there's at least one scum in Gera and Gibus buddying up here.
this is interesting. i might come back to you after studying their dynamics. some part of me reads Gera null-light green up to now, George felt good early on but my latest ISO... idk. it was null at best, i'll have to look closer at it.

Gibus ofc I find scummy, not enough for naming scum but enough for hammering if it comes to that.
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:55 am

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You know what screw it. The scum equity isn't as high as I'd like but I just noticed something critical. The surge on votes on NM ended at post 260 and started at post 269.

Neither Gibus nor George have posted since. They've been inactive for almost a day and over a day, respectively.


I think NM is town that scum is happy to watch get all the attention and at least one of these guys is hiding scum. Time to drag them out.

VOTE: Gibus

Get the hell in here.
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:58 am

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VOTE: Gibus
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:05 am

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In post 333, Vivax wrote:Mafias just need to play better than the worst looking players in town.

Where would you look if you didn't have to look at NM or gibus, for now?
Corwinoid. You?
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:11 am

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Corwinoid is not a "bad" next choice.

Lotta side comments, and his only super direct read on someone is calling NM "hella sus" for being a dick. He was later the 4th vote on him.

NM isn't "town" regardless of his alignment, but it was still weak to go from 0 to 100 like that. The vote is awkward, and he essentially acts like it's just NM being NM shortly after said vote. So, where did the "hella sus" go?
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:29 am

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I've got nothing new to bring to the table except that the case on ger is flimsy as hell
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:30 am

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In post 334, Crescent wrote:Interestingly enough, an ISO of Gibus shows he defended Gera and George at the same time but otherwise has done virtually nothing this game.

And to look further... Both Gera and Gibus have both defended George at one point, and Gibus/Gera have defended each other at one point. Them all being scum would be too easy, but there is a very very high chance there's at least one scum in Gera and Gibus buddying up here.
Or just town genuinely confused by bad reasoning. Not sure how you'd differentiate.
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:32 am

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I know Beetlejuice isn't real but you legit decided to show up after 2 people voted you? What are the odds?
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:34 am

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@ Eiralox
In post 295, Vivax wrote:Good morning.

UNVOTE: Corwinoid
VOTE: GeorgeBailey

Almost voted not_mafia, but it'd be more useful to keep him around as pet troll for now.
If he really triggers that many people to the point it's all I can read about, I'll reconsider.

Corwin/George looks like a good combo still.
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:37 am

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Ah I overlooked that George already did have a vote, it was just after that previous vote update.

...So we DID have 9 different trains anyway. We summoned Gibus. Wonder if we could summon George too.
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:39 am

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Gibus ISO doesn't even look bad to me anyways. Just less...judgmental and more silent. Playing around a bit at the entrance with his copy of Elsa. I like where UNOwens vote is.
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:41 am

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In post 348, Vivax wrote:Gibus ISO doesn't even look bad to me anyways. Just less...judgmental and more silent. Playing around a bit at the entrance with his copy of Elsa. I like where UNOwens vote is.
Gibus ISO is a whole lotta nothing that dropped off a cliff once NM got votes.

As someone multiple people were already discussing voting, I felt it was time to drag him back into the game.

...I just didn't expect it to be that quick.
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