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In post 323, marcistar wrote:

In post 320, Ausuka wrote:

In post 315, marcistar wrote:

In post 314, Ausuka wrote:Maybe marci and Johnny are scum

whys ausuka always so bad at reading me

wait is this marci claiming scum

you literally xalled me scum in the wuoted line

I said you were probably less likely to be scum than random

That's like a slight townlean at best tho

u stink make it more obv to us ppl.who dont read

I think RR opening the day pushing that Marci killed Hiraki because his theory from early game was correct is really slimy when Hiraki had been pushing RR for like a long time

Pedit: Maybe you should've taken English classes at clown school

I also read that incorrectly

Day 2 VC #2

Herta

(2): MegAzumarill (309), Ausuka (318)

marcistar

(1): Radical Rat (312)

Not Voting

(4): Aisa, Herta, JohnnyFarrar, marcistar

In post 322, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Radiologist is a bad thing to lose I bet

you don't say
My bet would be it was something reminiscent of a cop

confession; i'm stupid and don't know what a radiologist is so i have no idea what this means role wise

i think 322 from johnny is +scum though

My townread on marci is wavering at this point, not into red but perhaps into null.

I still don't find the case on them particularly convincing at this point though.

In post 328, Ausuka wrote:I think RR opening the day pushing that Marci killed Hiraki because his theory from early game was correct is really slimy when Hiraki had been pushing RR for like a long time

Pedit: Maybe you should've taken English classes at clown school

Yeah, that's fair. From my perspective, his push on me can't be relevant to the kill, so I was looking at who else he was pushing, but I of course have no way of proving that to you

That makes some sense but also like, it's hard to believe the fact Hiraki was pushing town most loudly from your pov didn't lead you to other conclusions - like he was probably killed for being widely townread, or maybe mafia somehow caught on he was a PR. The way you seem to like, instantly come up with a scumpool of me and marci at daystart is kind of sus to me. After strongly pushing Juice as scum it's a convenient pivot to have available.

My thinking was that he was widely townread, yes, but that having a widely townread slot alive to push wagons on Town would be quite good for scum, and they could kill him later on once he stopped being useful. So I find it more likely scum felt threatened by him in some way, and while he was indeed pushing me the most verbally... his vote was on marci.

I mean, the game would be nice and easy if it was a good strategy to always eliminate the people the nightkill was scumreading, but I think we both know that isn't true? I wouldn't have a problem if you brought it up as a point against Marci but the fact you didn't really seem to do much evaluation and used Hiraki to make your push even though he was scumreading you feels slimy to me.

Of course it isn't true always, but I think it is here, and I don't have much else to go on right now. Juice wagon is frustratingly uninformative because of xyr "playstyle," plus the self-hammer. By play alone, I townread most people alive here. Herta's entrance wasn't great, but the rest of his posting has been fine. Marci's the only one who doesn't seem to fit here, and it lines up with Hiraki's death, the only issue is that I don't really know who the partner could be. I'm obviously townreading someone I shouldn't be, but even so for now marci's the only one I'm comfortable voting.

What exactly about Herta do you townread?

In post 274, Herta wrote:I'd like to know why juice? You didn't get at them specifically in your catch up.

This is the main one for me. It's a genuine probing question, upon seeing something that doesn't make sense to him. It's also worth noting that Herta was scumreading and voting Juice at this point, and as scum he would probably not be questioning a wagon he wanted to flip, so it reads more like actually trying to gauge Johnny than anything else.

I feel like that's super easy to fake. Like, it's just a request for clarification? It's really NAI. What about it do you find genuine?

In post 343, Radical Rat wrote:and as scum he would probably not be questioning a wagon he wanted to flip

I mean, it's not like asking a simple question for clarification threatens the wagon at all? I don't understand this take either

Yes, it could be fake. Anything could be fake. You could be faking this entire conversation, as could I. And I reserve the right to change my mind if he does something more overtly scummy later on, but for now I believe it.

In post 346, Radical Rat wrote:Yes, it could be fake. Anything could be fake. You could be faking this entire conversation, as could I. And I reserve the right to change my mind if he does something more overtly scummy later on, but for now I believe it.

Yes, nothing is impossible to be fake. But this is so incredibly easy for scum to do that I really do not think it is town indicative at all and struggle to see why you believe that it is. It is literally just a short request for clarification.

In post 322, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Radiologist is a bad thing to lose I bet

In post 330, JohnnyFarrar wrote:I also read that incorrectly

VOTE: JohnnyFarrar
It would really help if you could state one read with some motivation behind it. I know you posted this catch-up post, I'm looking for one consolidated stance.

In post 147, JohnnyFarrar wrote:I literally won last game as scum in part because people don't trust Marci for playing like this.

Aussie you were there.

Were you trying to say that marci is town here? What were you specifically trying to accomplish with this post?

In post 339, Radical Rat wrote:his vote was on marci.

why would i be worried of someone who votes me?
i naturally attract alot of votes

why would i take it into consideration at all for a nk?