Mafiascum.net

Uh

It's not really intentional, I just play a priority game

I laid out my big scumread and now I'm just feeling out people based on what I've said

Your emotions to me seem real, but I think that you have experience

Meaning, I can only take that at face value. Especially because I don't know you?

It's a bit contextual how emotions dictate behavior yknow

I just get the impression it's not outside your range to fake

I'm not saying you should be townreading me for my emotions, I think this is a gamestate where I would get frustrated regardless.

But I just don't really understand, I guess, why you scumread me. The only part I understand is the part I already feel like I explained. And it seems like there's more to it and I can't sort you properly or respond properly like this.

There is something kind of funny about Dannflor scumreading me for trying to make my trajectory on every single player publicly known, but then unwnd scumreading me for not properly explaining and/or reaching conclusions about Junko.

Yes, I know there's more nuance to it. No, I don't care.

Is it egoistical of me to scumread Vanders based on the fact that he seems to townread me and wants me in his coalition, but is doing virtually nothing to actually convince anyone of it, or at least engage with other people's scumreads of me?

Just a disclaimer that a scumread doesn't mean player disapproval

And I'm not telling you that in a condescending tone either, like I'm saying 'well get over that I scumread you'

I just wanted to put that out because yeah regardless of alignment I'm not trying to isolate you

I think that can be a dirty and effective strategy, but not how I wanna play

Now I talked about my gut feeling about you but it still remains based on your appearances as well. You have a lot of unkempt emotion, but it's sort of..kept in reserve. Like, you pull it out when you need it. It reads to me as self-serving. People are questioning your motives and behavior therefore you can fall back on the premise of you just being misconstrued.

This is completely possible. Yet what I'm trying to get is like..how is this benefiting you in terms of development. I've heard your argument in you're doing this and I'm sure you could write me more about it. I can't shake the disconnect however. Even your last post of 'is it egotistical of me' makes me think I dunno...is it? Is it egotistical. And if it is egotistical, how can you hone into that to maybe pressure vanderscamp? You can correct me if I'm wrong but again-- you seem like someone attuned to their emotions. Like you use them in strategic ways as both alignments. The strategy of how you've applied them really puts me off from believing it's town.

tbh if i wolf with menalque probably a losing game (?) unless i do more before this point to confirm i get in coalition
he not posting a lot doesn’t give me room to believably shift away nor he on me

but me wolf with anyone else? hehe

Menalque has been prodded

In post 322, Dannflor wrote:I resonate with it a lot. I feel like I've been in exactly the position he describes before. And I know how it can feel to try to penetrate a player list that all seems pretty familiar with each other and have comfortable repertoire with each other while you do not.

I think writing a lot about the stuff you feel strongest about is how I tend to try to become more invested in games where I'm struggling as town, so that makes some sense to me.

It doesn't resonate to me. Maybe I dont want to be friends anyway because my heart is ice, or people are always very familiar to me quickly

In post 329, Lucian wrote:Is it egoistical of me to scumread Vanders based on the fact that he seems to townread me and wants me in his coalition, but is doing virtually nothing to actually convince anyone of it, or at least engage with other people's scumreads of me?

This actually has a three letter answer

In post 332, Ydrasse wrote:tbh if i wolf with menalque probably a losing game (?) unless i do more before this point to confirm i get in coalition
he not posting a lot doesn’t give me room to believably shift away nor he on me

but me wolf with anyone else? hehe

He's not a wolf with you because he would be more vibrant. He could be a wolf with like a Vanderscamp or a Lucian

In post 323, unwnd wrote:When you're scum dannflor (if there any instances of this) do you feel yourself leaning more bureaucratic?

I’m not quite sure what you mean by bureaucratic

I think the answer is no but maybe you could rephrase?

In post 337, Una wrote:

In post 332, Ydrasse wrote:tbh if i wolf with menalque probably a losing game (?) unless i do more before this point to confirm i get in coalition
he not posting a lot doesn’t give me room to believably shift away nor he on me

but me wolf with anyone else? hehe

He's not a wolf with you because he would be more vibrant. He could be a wolf with like a Vanderscamp or a Lucian

squints

He could be wolf with me

wolf wolf wolf

Vanderscamp, do you think you would have played differently so far as mafia?

If so how so

In post 338, Dannflor wrote:

In post 323, unwnd wrote:When you're scum dannflor (if there any instances of this) do you feel yourself leaning more bureaucratic?

I’m not quite sure what you mean by bureaucratic

I think the answer is no but maybe you could rephrase?

I'll just speak a bit more plainly

Do you feel like you don't care about faking a process as scum? Like you just wanna seem really convincing by whatever (fake) read you want to make?

Hmm. 331 does make me feel better about unwnd. At least, I feel like I can understand where his scumread of me is coming from, and I think it makes sense. FWIW, I do agree that I'm aware of my own emotions and how I'm presenting them to the game.

There also a point to my posts; if we're talking examples, the one I called out to Vanders. Which I know is easy to say - and for obvious reasons I can't say more now. And kind of sucks that my playstyle is getting me scumread this game. But I'll live.

Not loving the fact that Menalque seemingly completely dipped after that one burst of posting.

@Ydrasse, what's your current coalition of choice?

In post 346, Lucian wrote:Not loving the fact that Menalque seemingly completely dipped after that one burst of posting.

I townread that

Why?