Thinking you'd probably vote me. Thinking maybe you suspect Ghat over Amper/ns.
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:22 pm
by notscience
I think you suspect me
Not really sure why
just do
Maybe mala too
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:35 pm
by Mina
Huh, notscience, you're not sure why
you think
I suspect you, or why I suspect you? If it's the latter, can you explain why you think I do?
Mala, why aren't you making more of an effort to change my mind if you think I'm going to vote you?
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:41 pm
by notscience
I think you suspect me through a mixture of the fact I've been promising a malacase for weeks but haven't brought it
I think you suspect me because two of the people I've stated are normally really good at reading me are calling me scum and the only other person died before them
I think you suspect me because of the bullshit scumslip angle from yesterday
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 1:55 pm
by Mina
And what makes you think I suspect you most of all, Mala?
notscience, given that my posts on this page were attacking Ghatokaca, why do you think you and Mala are my top suspects? Also, can you explain the contradiction between "
I think
Mala prefers town more than she prefers scum" and "we both
hate
being scum"? (Emphasis mine.) P.S.: you shouldn't make cases on yourself!
Still waiting on F-16 and Nacho to give their full suspects and also to guess at mine. (Ampersand, too.)
In post 3245, Ampersand wrote:Yeah, this is probably the most important thing that's happened Today. I believe we should get a Malalynch here and it feels really off how notscience has just kind of ignored the fact that that's been happening (beyond making an unconvincing argument and then just describing a bunch of games they were both in).
How exactly is notscience's consistent white-knighting of Malakittens ignoring the fact that it's happening? And didn't notscience explicitly say it was a no-brainer to vote you over Malakittens, but "wanted to sort out Nacho" first?
Also, was this post written by CES, by Fenchurch, or by both together?
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:01 pm
by Malakittens
In post 3252, Mina wrote:
Mala, why aren't you making more of an effort to change my mind if you think I'm going to vote you?
I made my case on Amper and Ghatty. I don't know what more to add without it looking like I'm trying to pull up a more fantastic case on them that I have. It's there and it's up to you if see their posts the same way as I do. I know you have a different outlook of Amper that I do not have via neighborhood posting which I don't have access too.
In post 3254, Mina wrote:And what makes you think I suspect you most of all, Mala?
Probably lack of hunting in later days after getting sick, apathy (which isn't a scum tell), tunneling wrongly on Hanzo.
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:01 pm
by Malakittens
Maybe setup spec too, idk.
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:08 pm
by notscience
In post 3254, Mina wrote:notscience, given that my posts on this page were attacking Ghatokaca, why do you think you and Mala are my top suspects?
It's a bit of paranoia, a bit of kinda of a back against the wall thing. Like, yes, you were attacking him, but at the same time you could just be grilling him to confirm a townread on him.
Also, can you explain the contradiction between "I think Mala prefers town more than she prefers scum" and "we both hate being scum"?
I think being unsure, while the latter is fully sure. I had the initial idea, then when I was thinking back to every game we've been in together and kinda confirming the though in my head
(Emphasis mine.)
P.S.: you shouldn't make cases on yourself!
I'm the best at making cases on myself
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:49 am
by Tammy
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:11 am
by Ampersand
In post 3248, Mina wrote:Another question: who does everyone think
I
suspect/am going to vote for today? (This may sound self-absorbed, but I'm asking this for a reason.)
Mala.
In post 3254, Mina wrote:How exactly is notscience's consistent white-knighting of Malakittens ignoring the fact that it's happening? And didn't notscience explicitly say it was a no-brainer to vote you over Malakittens, but "wanted to sort out Nacho" first?
Look, do you really think notscience the great defender makes masturbatory posts like this one at the same time we're voting one of his town reads in LyLo? He definitely has not been consistently whiteknighting Mala; it's a few scattered bits among boring Nachostuff. Wanting to sort out Nacho first doesn't even really make sense in 5p LyLo; we're all connected at this point and it is ridiculous how little he's said about our slot.
Mina wrote:Also, was this post written by CES, by Fenchurch, or by both together?
Yarr.
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:09 pm
by Malakittens
Days later and
still
nothing from F-16~
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:55 pm
by Ghatokaca
Mina, I think about this game
every day and every night
my thoughts remain the same
but I wonder if I got it right
I have some things I want to say
to see which pairs make any sense
but I'd like to see the game play
out more before I commence
Our interactions with Ms Kitten
gives me massive hives
I don't follow what she's written
or why she snaps and bites
She uses every opportunity
to spin me as a scummy plane
I only hope that she and me
are not both town arguing in vain
Amper looks the most town to me
in them I want to believe
But could they have bussed the bony bones
and have us all deceived?
Could they have set up a neat claim
to get two consecutive lynches to win?
I hope not because it would give me pain
to see how badly they put us in the bin
I think things through and realize
that one I don't like is Notty
For through the game, he feels the same
as he does when he is naughty
The alien friend he betrayed yesterday
just when she was onto him
A slimy vote he sent their way
the reasons are hazy and dim
I need your help to solve this game
You are my voice of reason
For if I am right about the game
You have to be my beacon
I need a friend not someone
who needles me everyday
I want you to be the one
who helps me find the way
You act coy and ask me to guess
what suspicions you would find
Alas if only I could impress
with the ability to read your mind
I will do as you wish to humor you
I can take a wild stab and tell
that you want our blood through and through
Maybe little Ms Kittens as well
I want to talk and share and address
the suspicions to our name
I'll wait for you to engage and press
and together we'll solve the game.
~ F-16
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:17 pm
by notscience
I prefer the creepy black guy poet.
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:18 pm
by notscience
Is it bad that I'm having a shitton of trouble voting ampersand right now
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:24 pm
by notscience
Also here comes the inevitable "oh he's just trying to fake paranoia to look town" bullshit
Why do I keep trying to seduce myself into townreading ghato
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:29 pm
by notscience
Part of it feels like Gambler's fallacy
I've seen so much scumcho recently it's time to see towncho
part of it feels like scum nacho wouldn't be this fucking stupid and misread me like this becuase Town ns can look like scum ns if he's disengaged but I've been engaged all game and nacho scumreading me would make me really defensive but at the same time it bugs me because I've been trying ot prove how town I am and it's like nothing
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:29 pm
by Malakittens
In post 3263, notscience wrote:Is it bad that I'm having a shitton of trouble voting ampersand right now
Considering it's either me or Amper today, yes, this is troubling. Especially, if you have that strong of a townread on me that you say you do.
We have three days left so like {Mina, ns & Ghat} have to figure out what they are doing sometime soonish.
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:39 pm
by notscience
I do
But I don't know
I have no idae what to do and yet before now I was like hell if I get to lylo I do x y z and boom
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:57 pm
by notscience
Fuck
I want to sheep bro and mollie
>.<
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:19 pm
by notscience
THIS IS MY THREAD NOW
mine
noone else allowed unless they're mod confirmed town
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:30 pm
by notscience
So
By scaring off everyone but myself who is town
I have removed the scum from the village
and town wins
gggggggggggggggggggg
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:54 am
by Mina
Was looking for more definite answers from F-16 and Nacho (where is Nacho, anyway?), but since deadline's coming and I don't want to stall this any more...
Actually, you all guessed wrong!
( I was actually really tempted to post this on Monday night with an Ampersand vote for THE DRAMA, that's how confident I'd been on this all day...well, up until about twenty-four hours ago. But it's good manners to give people advance warning, particularly since they'd promised a big attempt to convince me in the neighbourhood. Also, I'm in a bit of a slump right now and found lots of reasons to doubt myself--not 100% sure of which triggered the other. On my phone at work until late, so I can't go much into my reasoning both for and against them. But one issue is that notscience's interactions with Osseus at the end of D1 and start of D2 are horrible (he just drops his Osseus-is-obvious-scum read without an explanation). Also, he's not terrible in that Nat modded game. And why does notscience's read on Ghatokaca affect the obvious Mala vs. Ampersand dichotomy?
However, the gist of my earlier thoughts, based mostly on how LYLO has played out:
1) Notscience has been painfully obvious town since early today. Or, at the very least, he's posted stuff that I think would make people scumreading him question themselves.
2) Ampersand has been painfully obvious scum for reactions to posts from notscience that would have, at the very least, provoked some kind of self-reflection or paranoia of their strong townreads. Instead, the bulk of their contributions today have been 1) trying to smear notscience, and 2) reaffirming reads they should be questioning given their track record this game. "Nacho is town for not giving up" in particular is egregious and lazy. I don't see Fenchurch as town being so nonchalant the last day of LYLO.
3) Was less sure on the other two, but I'll talk about my thoughts on them later, since I have to get back to work.
noone else allowed unless they're mod confirmed town
My best 2 scumgames are Nati's mini and Cabd's mini.
Even though nacho is a belligerent scumfuck WHO WONT FUCKING ADMIT IM TOWN he's right in that I need that gusto in order to pull off a coup. I guess it could be in part due to who I play against, but even then in those games I had times where I didn't look like town-me (in Nati's game I was lurkakderping and bert kept yelling at me for it and in Cabd's game I was already moving on to the next ML when one hadn't been gotten off yet, however I got lynched there because of PoE because fuck PoE man). And Nacho knows a way way way better indicator of scum me is that deer in the headlights reaction to being caught by something because that's what tipped them off in Cabd's game and it's essentially what happened in Nati's game too
But he didn't mention it
once
And it's bugging the everliving shit out of me
But I keep trying to think of them as being stupid town
>.>
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:07 am
by notscience
Also scum ns and town ns are way way way different in lylo but ofc nacho is ignoring that too
So he's probably scum
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:12 am
by notscience
I want to vote nacho
Btw I never got an answer to when he found out he was in a QT