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Post Post #3250 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:06 pm

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like i said

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Post Post #3251 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:06 pm

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In post 3248, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3247, skitter30 wrote:rc as it is rn i don't think u can live till lylo
Hey skitter what if I said I think scum tried to kill me so RC would be mislynched?
i think that if he's town he's a p viable mislynch given ~yesterday~

but i also think that he needs to be resolved before lylo given ~yesterday~

i'm not sold that it has to be via lynch but he cannot be alive in lylo uncleared given how the tw lynch went down
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Post Post #3252 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:07 pm

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In post 3250, RadiantCowbells wrote:like i said

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Post Post #3253 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:08 pm

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In post 3233, skitter30 wrote:i think i'm the nk most times last night
You or math or RCE. Def in that 3 pool. Not sure the claim would affect it tbh.
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Post Post #3254 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:09 pm

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In post 3253, teacher wrote:
In post 3233, skitter30 wrote:i think i'm the nk most times last night
You or math or RCE. Def in that 3 pool. Not sure the claim would affect it tbh.
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Post Post #3255 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:09 pm

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In post 3251, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3248, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3247, skitter30 wrote:rc as it is rn i don't think u can live till lylo
Hey skitter what if I said I think scum tried to kill me so RC would be mislynched?
i think that if he's town he's a p viable mislynch given ~yesterday~

but i also think that he needs to be resolved before lylo given ~yesterday~

i'm not sold that it has to be via lynch but he cannot be alive in lylo uncleared given how the tw lynch went down
All of that I agree with

But I think just going “RC” will turn peoples brains off.

I think the best way is to start Ari and if Ari is scum then Plum.

If Ari is town that post chain isn’t as bad as I thought it was and it means scum were more content and doing nothing and gives more insight about day one.

However if we don’t lynch Ari RC would be the alternative to see if TvT or TvS.

If TvS Ari could still be scum and so could Plum.
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Post Post #3256 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:11 pm

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Either that or just RC.

@implosion: Can I have a day nuke on RC Ari and Plum? What do you mean you just don’t hand them out to people who ask?

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Post Post #3257 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:12 pm

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right that's why i'm not starting the day off by shouting 'RC' and going after him like a bull after a red flag

i think we can utilize this time to sort other slots

but at the same time i want to make it very clear that if he is not dead/cleared th day before lylo he needs to be goned

also why ari over plum

also what do u think about teacher?
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Post Post #3258 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:17 pm

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I’m fine with an ari/RC alternative. My plan for the day was to push plum to get more investment then try to wheel it back onto one of them anyways.

I don’t like the shade from Ari. I thought my eod was pretty obviously town, or as much so as I get. Duck, blade and RC - heck even Bella - seemed to agree. So aris opening posting with that and lack of depth continued the inadequacy I felt there yesterday, even if at times it felt like it was going to be too easy to lynch.
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Post Post #3259 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:18 pm

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In post 3257, skitter30 wrote:right that's why i'm not starting the day off by shouting 'RC' and going after him like a bull after a red flag

i think we can utilize this time to sort other slots

but at the same time i want to make it very clear that if he is not dead/cleared th day before lylo he needs to be goned

also why ari over plum

also what do u think about teacher?
Ari gives more wagon data and had more resistance and can help to sort RC.

If RC stopped a lynch on town to move to another town, that’s more likely indicative of town RC.

But if Ari flips scum PR then RC is more likely scum trying to save the PR and thus not a detective and full speed ahead on RC.

Plum on the other hand has a lot of votes on people that I don’t agree with but doesn’t have as many associations to go off of except day open.

Teacher I had a strong town read on but now I am more “meh prob town”.
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Post Post #3260 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:19 pm

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In post 3213, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3196, Aristophanes wrote:Obv*

And so what he ended the day early? He also like, delayed that hammer to let the thread continue for a while which I don't think had any protown use to it.

I think you're reading way more into his motivations, Bella.
And I think you scumreading me is tainting your view on him.
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Post Post #3261 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:20 pm

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I would vote Plum but I don't want to poison the well because I feel like if I support the wagon it's less likely to go through tbh.
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Post Post #3262 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:22 pm

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i don't think we should be sorting rc by proxy anymore
if he's scummy we should just vote him

lynching ari to figure out rc's wagonomics feels very ~convoluted~ and we tried to do that yesterday even and now people aren't really taking into account the outcome of the experiement, so i'm a little dubious that using ari as a second proxy will be effective

plum's tw vote was scary and while there's (a few) things that i like about ari i can remember just ... like two (?) posts from plum that i liked and on balance i feel worse about her than ari
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Post Post #3263 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:22 pm

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In post 2705, implosion wrote:
Spoiler: phenomenology aardvark
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Vote Count 1.18
Aristophanes
(4): MathBlade, teacher, Flopz, skitter30
RadiantCowbells
(3): Xtoxm, the worst, Aristophanes
the worst
(2): tris, RadiantCowbells
Plum
(1): RCEnigma
tris
(1): Plum

Not voting (2): Bellaphant, Iconeum

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Deadline is set to two weeks from day start, in (expired on 2020-01-16 22:00:00).
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Spoiler: glistening the grass falls down down below
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Vote Count 1.19
the worst
(5): tris, skitter30, RadiantCowbells, Plum, MathBlade
RadiantCowbells
(3): Xtoxm, the worst, Aristophanes
Aristophanes
(2): teacher, Flopz
Plum
(1): RCEnigma

Not voting (2): Bellaphant, Iconeum

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to end the day.
Deadline is set to two weeks from day start, in (expired on 2020-01-16 22:00:00).
So here is where the shift takes place from Ari to worst.

Pedit then your vote is there in spirit.
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Post Post #3264 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:24 pm

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In post 3262, skitter30 wrote:i don't think we should be sorting rc by proxy anymore
if he's scummy we should just vote him

lynching ari to figure out rc's wagonomics feels very ~convoluted~ and we tried to do that yesterday even and now people aren't really taking into account the outcome of the experiement, so i'm a little dubious that using ari as a second proxy will be effective

plum's tw vote was scary and while there's (a few) things that i like about ari i can remember just ... like two (?) posts from plum that i liked and on balance i feel worse about her than ari
Into account what experiment.

Lynching Ari was never completed.

Why does lynching Ari to figure out what happened day one feel complicated?

Without that Plum’s posting doesn’t have a context of which to be seen from.
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Post Post #3265 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:25 pm

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no the tw lynch, rc wanted to be bop'd on it and a lot of people voted there because 'tw and rc can't be tvt'
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Post Post #3266 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:27 pm

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In post 3265, skitter30 wrote:no the tw lynch, rc wanted to be bop'd on it and a lot of people voted there because 'tw and rc can't be tvt'
See here’s the thing:

I think he should be...tomorrow.

I know this sounds bad but ~reasons~
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Post Post #3267 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:28 pm

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oh hey my ~'s are catching on

i said i don't want to push rc rn
and that he needs to be gone by lylo

but using ari to sort rc feels silly to me given yesterday
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Post Post #3268 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:30 pm

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In post 3267, skitter30 wrote:oh hey my ~'s are catching on

i said i don't want to push rc rn
and that he needs to be gone by lylo

but using ari to sort rc feels silly to me given yesterday
Please trust me (A).

You agree Ari’s entrance was bad.

You agree Ari is scum.

Like please don’t make me paranoid you’re deep wolf.
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Post Post #3269 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:32 pm

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i think ari is independantly scummy but using him to sort rc is silly

i feel worse about plum so would rather there
if there isn't as much support for that i can switch to ari but i'd rather pressure plum rn
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Post Post #3270 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:35 pm

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In post 3269, skitter30 wrote:i think ari is independantly scummy but using him to sort rc is silly

i feel worse about plum so would rather there
if there isn't as much support for that i can switch to ari but i'd rather pressure plum rn
Why? Why Plum over Ari? I do not follow.
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Post Post #3271 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:38 pm

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because i think her vote on tw was awful and i don't think she's done anything townie really at all and i think she's the best bet for scum on the wagon barring rc

also i'm not sure ari defends tw that strongly if he could just be like 'i sr tw vote: tw' upon catching up if he's scum

we can pressure ari too
but like i can think of reasons to tr ari
but i don't really have reasons to tr plum

also, again, i'm very wary of the whole team-reading/solve thing with no scum flips at this point
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Post Post #3272 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:40 pm

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VOTE: Plum

I shall follow you milady to whatever bitter end.
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Post Post #3273 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:41 pm

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that's, um, slightly creepy
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Post Post #3274 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:41 pm

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That was the vibe I was going for tbh
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