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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:35 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3249, LicketyQuickety wrote:Has everyone checked in?
yes, at some point or another

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:36 pm
by LicketyQuickety
In post 3250, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3249, LicketyQuickety wrote:Has everyone checked in?
yes, at some point or another
Kitty? Even?

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:37 pm
by Gamma Emerald
I legit forgot she was in this game 0_0

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:41 pm
by Dragon of the West
In post 3246, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 3245, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 3241, CheekyTeeky wrote:If I die please exile DoTW in my honour.
You still never made an actual case against me?
Do I need one? Basic VCA outs you. Plus your play today is super cute wolfy style.
I don't think I was even on Cyrus yesterday? So idk what your VCA tells you. I think you're just misreading the situation but you do you. I think you're just ruffled because I suggested you might be scum

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:41 pm
by TemporalLich
VC 3.6
MegAzumarill
(7)
- Dwlee99, Dragon of the West, Shrek, Roden, CheekyTeeky, DrippingGoofball, Gamma Emerald
[EXILED!]

Shrek (2) - Nero Cain, ArcAngel9
DrippingGoofball (1) - LicketyQuickety

Not voting: Almost50, KittyTacky, MegAzumarill

With 13 alive it takes 7 to exile.

Day 3 will end in (expired on 2021-08-28 00:00:00) or when an exile is reached.

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:47 pm
by TemporalLich
MegAzumarill has been exiled! They were a
Mafia Goon


Spoiler: MegAzumarill
Large Normal With No Multiball

__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________


Welcome, MegAzumarill! You are a
Mafia Goon
, aligned with the
Mafia
.

Abilities:
• You have no special abilities.

Factional Abilities:
• You are a member of the Mafia,
[redacted]
. Your Private Topic is here:
[redacted]

• Each night, one member of the Mafia may perform the Mafia factional nightkill if they are not otherwise acting.

Win Condition:
You win when all the threats to the
Mafia
are gone and at least one
Mafioso
is still alive, or when nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Please confirm your Role PM by replying with your role and alignment, or by posting in the Mafia PT.


Night 3 has begun! Please send in your night actions within (expired on 2021-08-20 21:00:00). Everyone can agree to a Fast Night to end the night earlier.

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:10 pm
by TemporalLich
No one has died during the night...


Day 4 has begun!


VC 4.0Not voting: Almost50, DrippingGoofball, Nero Cain, KittyTacky, Gamma Emerald, Dwlee99, CheekyTeeky, LicketyQuickety, ArcAngel9, Dragon of the West, Roden, Shrek

With 12 alive it takes 7 to exile.

Day 4 will end in (expired on 2021-08-30 21:30:00) or when an exile is reached.

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:11 pm
by LicketyQuickety
Fair warning, this post is largely IIoA


Premise



Why does Mega claim that Cheeky visited DGB N2? That seems like utter suicide if Cheeky was RBed. If DGB was RBed, then wouldn't Cheeky still get a result? If DGB were Rolestopped then Shrek would be semi-innocent. If Cheeky was RBed, then Shrek is guilty. But if Mega didn’t know Cheeky’s result, then DGB was either Rolestoped or Abducted. That still says nothing about DGB/Shrek so we have to look at other data to sort DGB/Shrek given I am alive now.


Progression



DrippingGoofball


Spoiler: Progression on Mega
:

In DBG says, quoting Mega, “I’m Town binning this player.”
DGB chainsaws Mega against Shek in . For some reason, DGB TRs Nero for making the case against Mega and SRs Shrek for agreeing with Nero. In Mega’s case against Nero, DGB puts down essentially a FoS on Mega in .
and (back to back posts) are interesting.
In DGB says explicitly they don’t SR Mega.
Then Mega doesn’t turn up until where DGB sides with Mega against Cheeky.
DGB shades both Shrek and Mega in , which further confirms both Shrek and Mega are not Scum if DGB is Scum. Shrek would have to be Town then.
In DGB says Cheeky’s claim is just as bad as Mega’s.
In and , DGB finally gets around to SRing Mega and makes their last 2 posts.


Shrek


Spoiler: Progression on Mega
:

Reads List in says this about Mega: Null: mega - has actively been trying to solve, but nero has raised good points against him. i would put him at lean town if it werent for his interaction with nero to begin with
Strong SR on Mega in accompanied by a vote.
In says there is resistance to Mega. Reiterates in .
In asks DGB if they SR Mega. In Prods DGB about what they think of the case on Mega. In tells DGB to look at the case on Mega.
Still pressures Mega in .
In says they have Mega as leading in Elim order.
In votes Gamma because the Mega wagon didn’t take.
In says this: "mega - literally self explanatory. disappeared for half the last phase after not tryin to scumsolve at all and i wouldnt mind him flipping today"
In says I should have Mega in my low impact players list.
In votes Mega again.
In says Red Mega makes Cheeky Green.
Calls out Mega on the BS of reading them in .
Shades Mega.
Says “mega who is almost certainly scum” in .
Tells Nero in they want to lynch Mega before Cyrus.
In tells me to ISO Mega.
“i want mega over cyrus” in .
Stops the pressure on Mega to vote for Cyrus and says we will catch Mega with their claim, which is exactly what happened.
In says we should have Limed Mega.
Pressures Mega in . Says they want one of Cheeky or Mega gone in with a vote on Mega. Gives reasons for SRing Mega in . Puts pressure on Mega for 3 more posts.


DrippingGoofball


Spoiler: Progression on Cheeky
:

In Cheeky asks DGB if they SR both Shrek and Roden. DGB say Roden is more likely Scum.
Vote’s Cheeky in with very poor reasoning IMO.
In , DGB gets the order reversed and says if Cheeky flips Red then Mega is Green.
In DGB chainsaws Mega to Cheeky.
In DGB tells Cheeky they are 1-Shot.
: You’re welcome!
looks like a buddy attempt.
is a WIFOM read on Gamma in response to Cheeky asking about them.
In DGB calls Cheeky Scum.
In DGB calls both Shrek and Cheeky Scum.
In DGB asks what Cheeky’s claim is.


Shrek


Spoiler: Progression on Cheeky
:

In Reads List: “cheeky - i honestly think that the interaction between her and nero right now is strictly tvt… I'm putting him the highest outta everyone.” in .
Reads list in cheeky - i dont entirely agree with the reads list they posted but its basically the same case as with lq where i cant see them being partnered with anyone.
Lots of cooperation with Cheeky until:
Asks for a Town block including Cheeky in .
“me/cheeky/lq/nero/possibly roden is the townbloc” in .
“cheeky is not scum wtf are you smoking”
“i'm hard town reading cheeky”
Some cooperation, and defending Cheeky, then,
“cheeky is obvtown” in .
“n1 im sure i wasnt blocked because std visited cheeky”


DrippingGoofball


Spoiler: Progression on Shrek
:

Empty shade on Shrek in .
Goes directly against Shrek as a principle in . Continues in .
In DGB, in response to Shrek says they “forgot the case” against Mega. In DGB, in response to Shrek, acknowledges the case on Mega and says, “I can see it” but does nothing with it.
Next mention of Shrek by DGB is in where DGB naked votes Shrek.
DGB complains about Shrek being Scum until where DGB finally is asking questions about what happened to trying to get Shek in the hood?
DGB goes back to saying the opposite to Shrek in .


Shrek


Spoiler: Progression on DGB
:

Reads List in “inconclusive: dgb - wanna say that hes town based on how it seems like hes actively tryin to sort and scumsolve but i am completely unfamiliar with his style of play
In “dgb's take makes me want to move them up to leans town”
“i agree with dgb’s play here actually.” .
“idk what motivation dgb would have to fake claim especially if its to save mega.”
To Cyrus: “what do you think of dgb’s PR claim then? are they faking it?” In .
“i completely understand where dgb/lq are coming from so do NOT get on them either just yet” In .
“cheeky dgb isnt ascetic. im a tracker and dgb didnt perform an action last night which means it was either rbed or is lying about what it is”
“dgb may have actually targeted me but it didnt show up then”
“why would scum choose to rb cheeky randomly when dgb not being able to add someone to its hood is an infinitely better option"


DrippingGoofball


Spoiler: (Bonus) Progression on Roden
:

is Sketchy since it looks like DGB is drawing at straws on a read like that.
and look a bit like early distancing with Roden (confirmed in ).
In DGB posts a “WTF?” at Roden and then starts to TR them in , for what I can see of very little reason.
618 is very weird because Roden says, “You're pushing a false narrative that Mega wants you bussed.” I can see no reason why DGB wants to TR Roden for that post (this post came up earlier).
DGB makes a very WIFOM-y read on Roden in .
There’s a huge gap where there’s not mention/interaction between Roden and DGB and they now have a strong TR on Roden at this point in the game (see ).


Town/Scum Analysis



DrippingGoofball


Spoiler: Town/Scum
Here’s a list of number and times that DGB calls a player Town/Scum (In cohesive order):

Here’s a fancy way of interpreting DGB’s reads (given DGB is Scum):

Scum = Town
Mixed = Town
Town = Scum

Town
Cheeky 0/10


Shrek 0/5
Cyrus 1/4


StD 1/1
Gamma 1/1


T3 2/1


AA9 1/0
A50 1/0


DW 2/0


Nero 3/0
Roden 3/0


Everyone DGB has called Scum is actually Town if Kitty and Shek are Town that is. That means Kitty and Shrek are both Town (See ) because of them being outliers and them being SR. We know Cheeky is confirmed Town. And Shrek resolves as Town with a DGB Scum flip. So we can reasonably guess that Kitty is Town as well.


Shrek


Spoiler: Town/Scum
Here’s a list of number and times that DGB calls a player Town/Scum (in cohesive order):

Interpreting Shek's reads (given Shek is Scum):

Scum = Town
Town = Town
Mixed = Mixed
N/A = N/A

Cyrus 0/4
Cheeky 7/0
Nero 6/0
DW 5/0


Roden 3/0
Norweirgh 2/0
StD 0/2


A50 1/0
Gamma 1/0
DGB 1/0


T3 1/4
Mega 1/5


Kitty 0/0
AA9 0/0
DotW 0/0


Results are a bit inconclusive. It's possible Shek's Null Reads are Scum, but that would be weird given the mixed results are Null.


Non-Associatives



DrippingGoofball


On a DGB Red flip:
Soft-Clears: Gamma, DW, Cheeky

Shrek


On a Shrek Red flip:
Clears: AA9, Roden
Soft-Clears: Gamma

Conclusion



These two players could not be more diametrically opposed to each other. They have opposite reads on the Elimed and on each other. Where DGB TR's Mega, Shrek SR's. Where DGB SR's Cheeky, Shrek TR's. And DGB reads Shrek as Scum whereas Shrek reads DGB as Town. To make matter more polar opposite, You could virtually flip the reads upsidown in terms of what reads they gave on all the rest of the players in this game.

If DGB is Scum, then they are likely teamed with a PoE of Roden and/or Nero, and AA9 and/or A50. If Shrek is Scum the PoE is likely DotW, Kitty, and A50.

So that is the information I have for you. Vote wisely.

VOTE: DGB

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:12 pm
by Shrek
wow yall ended that last day phase way too quick lmao. was gonna explain shit but never got the chance

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:13 pm
by DrippingGoofball
Shaking my head in disbelief.

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:14 pm
by Shrek
my claim as tracker was faked to see what mega would say and if he would fall for the bait, but i had to improvise when people asked me for my n1 results. it DID work, though. mega only claimed his results after i claimed tracker meaning that he outed himself as a mafia member immediately. i wanted to see whether or not he would double down on it but i was pulled away from the computer and the day phase ended while i was gone

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:15 pm
by Shrek
also dgb did you take an action last night or no?

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:15 pm
by DrippingGoofball
I mean I appreciate LQ's effort and attention to detail, but I'm less keen on the flim flam.

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:16 pm
by Dwlee99
Well we got em anyway Shrek.

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:16 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In post 3261, Shrek wrote:also dgb did you take an action last night or no?
No, I was two-shot, I'm essentially vanilla stuck with in a PT with a player that is confirmed town to me but keeps voting me.

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:17 pm
by LicketyQuickety
Thanks, Shrek. I did all that work for exactly nothing.

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:19 pm
by Shrek
In post 3264, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3261, Shrek wrote:also dgb did you take an action last night or no?
No, I was two-shot, I'm essentially vanilla stuck with in a PT with a player that is confirmed town to me but keeps voting me.
you might be able to check to see if your action on the last night went through or not. its not the first time you would have misunderstood something on your role and it would help if we could like. actually focus on finding the scum?? at this point idek

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:20 pm
by LicketyQuickety
Ugh. I hate this.

UNVOTE:

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:20 pm
by Shrek
In post 3265, LicketyQuickety wrote:Thanks, Shrek. I did all that work for exactly nothing.
LMAO

i just wanted to prove mega was full of shit last phase but he never came back. maybe a stupid gambit but a fitting end since nobody wanted to get rid of him for three days in a row at that point

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:22 pm
by Shrek
me, nero, and cheeky are vaguely in the clear since we were scumreading him WAY before it was trendy. im not a fan of roden or gamma’s reactions to my ‘slip up’ yesterday, they feel a little manufactured. gamma especially since he was the one who hammered mega presumably to gain town cred after being wishy washy on him for a long time

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:24 pm
by Shrek
im also vaguely suspicious of dwlee (but to a lesser extent) of trying to pocket me when its clear i was lying about my role, but tbf he did give me the benefit of the doubt which i appreciate. AA9 had mega as ‘probably town’ and never once voted for him, so im also a little wary of her for now

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:26 pm
by Dwlee99
I did not find it obvious that you were lying because it looked like DGB was rolestopped.

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:26 pm
by Roden
Shrek you literally got caught lying about your claim and results lol. DGB also got a guilty on you so I'm not sure what you expected? Like even with Mega confirmed to have lied about their results, it doesn't explain how DGB could've got a false guilty on you if Cheeky was the one who got Roleblocked.

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:27 pm
by Shrek
town:
cheeky
nero
LQ
DotW

null:
Dwlee
DGB

scum:
Kitty/AA9/A50??
Roden
Gamma

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:27 pm
by LicketyQuickety
In post 3271, Dwlee99 wrote:I did not find it obvious that you were lying because it looked like DGB was rolestopped.
I guess that means Cheeky RB is back on the table then.