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In post 3247, Wallflower wrote:It’s true that FL posts too much and I’m not 100% sure they are town but I do feel like they’ve added a lot of valuable insights to the game in between all the extra fluff and so I would agree with FL that it is unreasonable to shut them out in such a way.

I apologize for emotion the past day or so, but I truly feel like I've given so much insight into this game, and absolutely nobody was listening even prior to all this.

I just was getting shut down from the beginning.

Started with TB, Menalque piggy backed on it later.

Now SPC.

It's just so infuriating.

I've had some of the best analysis in this game thus far, but whenever I say anything people just insta "nope, he's controlling don't listen to him"

when I'm actively one of the strongest scum hunters out there, and have caught many scum that people have gone "Nope,they're town."

if anything that's most of the time.

In post 3248, SCP 682 wrote:Whatever.

See, he doesn't even give a fuck.

He actively just chooses to go against me.

Maybe it's not even active, but something clicked in their brain a long time ago to go at me nonstop, and it's never stopped.

i truly do believe they are ignorant about it too.

They call me self centered with it, and sure, I got an ego, but that's ignorant self centered by them.

At least I'm aware of it.

In post 3245, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 3241, catboi wrote:2. i never accused pooky of being right I accused him of makign reads out of wanting people to be scum - the difference is at no point did I suggest he got lucky. It's disingenuous to act like we were saying the exact same thing here

And yet, I got pushed as scummy for doing the exact same thing, yet you dont seem to care about that one by Mastina.


Sorry, you're wrong here. And I guess it's possible you're pocketed by mastina, that was definitely her intention if you two are not aligned.

I'm more confident in Mastina Scum than You Scum even.

The thing is mastina having reasoning like that doesn't make her scum. To me if I ask myself if it seems like she believes it I think she does even if I don't buy into the notion of it being a slip or whatever. This reads more like you're annoyed at being treated in a way you perceive as being unfair than anything else

In post 3255, catboi wrote:

In post 3245, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 3241, catboi wrote:2. i never accused pooky of being right I accused him of makign reads out of wanting people to be scum - the difference is at no point did I suggest he got lucky. It's disingenuous to act like we were saying the exact same thing here

And yet, I got pushed as scummy for doing the exact same thing, yet you dont seem to care about that one by Mastina.


Sorry, you're wrong here. And I guess it's possible you're pocketed by mastina, that was definitely her intention if you two are not aligned.

I'm more confident in Mastina Scum than You Scum even.

The thing is mastina having reasoning like that doesn't make her scum. To me if I ask myself if it seems like she believes it I think she does even if I don't buy into the notion of it being a slip or whatever. This reads more like you're annoyed at being treated in a way you perceive as being unfair than anything else

it's not the awareness of it, don't be surface level. It's the positioning.

Day 1 is always a bit of a cluster$D%! so it's not always good to put too much stock into what any one person says.

it's not *just the reasoning of it.

Yeah it’s rough, and I’ve had my share of that sort of thing this game too, which has been quite the ride as I’ve not experienced it in mafia games before.

But I guess at the end of the day I’m just focusing on the question of “what does this tell me about X’s alignment?”

I think in SCP’s case, it’s likely town.

(@FL)

In post 3256, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 3255, catboi wrote:

In post 3245, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 3241, catboi wrote:2. i never accused pooky of being right I accused him of makign reads out of wanting people to be scum - the difference is at no point did I suggest he got lucky. It's disingenuous to act like we were saying the exact same thing here

And yet, I got pushed as scummy for doing the exact same thing, yet you dont seem to care about that one by Mastina.


Sorry, you're wrong here. And I guess it's possible you're pocketed by mastina, that was definitely her intention if you two are not aligned.

I'm more confident in Mastina Scum than You Scum even.

The thing is mastina having reasoning like that doesn't make her scum. To me if I ask myself if it seems like she believes it I think she does even if I don't buy into the notion of it being a slip or whatever. This reads more like you're annoyed at being treated in a way you perceive as being unfair than anything else

it's not the awareness of it, don't be surface level. It's the positioning.

me rn

In post 3255, catboi wrote:

In post 3245, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 3241, catboi wrote:2. i never accused pooky of being right I accused him of makign reads out of wanting people to be scum - the difference is at no point did I suggest he got lucky. It's disingenuous to act like we were saying the exact same thing here

And yet, I got pushed as scummy for doing the exact same thing, yet you dont seem to care about that one by Mastina.


Sorry, you're wrong here. And I guess it's possible you're pocketed by mastina, that was definitely her intention if you two are not aligned.

I'm more confident in Mastina Scum than You Scum even.

The thing is mastina having reasoning like that doesn't make her scum. To me if I ask myself if it seems like she believes it I think she does even if I don't buy into the notion of it being a slip or whatever. This reads more like you're annoyed at being treated in a way you perceive as being unfair than anything else

And this is what this one's been doing to me all game, and reasons like this that I believe Catboi is scum.


They actively minimize every single damn case I have anywhere.

They're a big reason that I've been minimized this game.

He's pushing like my read is just one single thing, but I have actively given multiple reasons as to why that read is there, and they’re just minimizing.


Mastina positioning.

Mastina setting up Toogeloo/Flavor/Enchant.

Mastina Catboi pocket.


And there's like 4+ pre flip stuff, but I won't even get into that because you guys arent at a level to be able to understand why preflip/wagonomics work.

VOTE: enchant
VOTE: enchant
VOTE: enchant
VOTE: enchant

In post 3261, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 3255, catboi wrote:

In post 3245, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 3241, catboi wrote:2. i never accused pooky of being right I accused him of makign reads out of wanting people to be scum - the difference is at no point did I suggest he got lucky. It's disingenuous to act like we were saying the exact same thing here

And yet, I got pushed as scummy for doing the exact same thing, yet you dont seem to care about that one by Mastina.


Sorry, you're wrong here. And I guess it's possible you're pocketed by mastina, that was definitely her intention if you two are not aligned.

I'm more confident in Mastina Scum than You Scum even.

The thing is mastina having reasoning like that doesn't make her scum. To me if I ask myself if it seems like she believes it I think she does even if I don't buy into the notion of it being a slip or whatever. This reads more like you're annoyed at being treated in a way you perceive as being unfair than anything else

And this is what this one's been doing to me all game, and reasons like this that I believe Catboi is scum.


They actively minimize every single damn case I have anywhere.

They're a big reason that I've been minimized this game.

He's pushing like my read is just one single thing, but I have actively given multiple reasons as to why that read is there, and they’re just minimizing.


Mastina positioning.

Mastina setting up Toogeloo/Flavor/Enchant.

Mastina Catboi pocket.


And there's like 4+ pre flip stuff, but I won't even get into that because you guys arent at a level to be able to understand why preflip/wagonomics work.

People generally don’t respond well to it being implied that they’re inferior. I just don’t think it’s going to get people on side

In post 3259, Wallflower wrote:Yeah it’s rough, and I’ve had my share of that sort of thing this game too, which has been quite the ride as I’ve not experienced it in mafia games before.

But I guess at the end of the day I’m just focusing on the question of “what does this tell me about X’s alignment?”

I think in SCP’s case, it’s likely town.

(@FL)

A reason why I'm not pushing there or really considering voting there today. But I'd vig them if they were an IC here if I had one.

In post 3263, Wallflower wrote:

In post 3261, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 3255, catboi wrote:

In post 3245, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 3241, catboi wrote:2. i never accused pooky of being right I accused him of makign reads out of wanting people to be scum - the difference is at no point did I suggest he got lucky. It's disingenuous to act like we were saying the exact same thing here

And yet, I got pushed as scummy for doing the exact same thing, yet you dont seem to care about that one by Mastina.


Sorry, you're wrong here. And I guess it's possible you're pocketed by mastina, that was definitely her intention if you two are not aligned.

I'm more confident in Mastina Scum than You Scum even.

The thing is mastina having reasoning like that doesn't make her scum. To me if I ask myself if it seems like she believes it I think she does even if I don't buy into the notion of it being a slip or whatever. This reads more like you're annoyed at being treated in a way you perceive as being unfair than anything else

And this is what this one's been doing to me all game, and reasons like this that I believe Catboi is scum.


They actively minimize every single damn case I have anywhere.

They're a big reason that I've been minimized this game.

He's pushing like my read is just one single thing, but I have actively given multiple reasons as to why that read is there, and they’re just minimizing.


Mastina positioning.

Mastina setting up Toogeloo/Flavor/Enchant.

Mastina Catboi pocket.


And there's like 4+ pre flip stuff, but I won't even get into that because you guys arent at a level to be able to understand why preflip/wagonomics work.

People generally don’t respond well to it being implied that they’re inferior. I just don’t think it’s going to get people on side

it's fine.

My analysis speaks for itself.

ROFL

In post 3266, SCP 682 wrote:ROFL

Just another thing of them being ignorant

Is it just me or does wallflower sound like an amatuer psychologist?

@everyone

I can totally see that FL’s posting is ridiculous at times but like it or not they are probably town

Yeah, WallFlower's been the most helpful to me all game besides that one Enchant post that Enchant made towards me that probably is the reason I'm not wanting to go Enchant.

In post 2668, Enchant wrote:Flavor are you ok

you can say this is a bad reason for me gut town reading Enchant, and it wont convince anyone else, but it's the main reason I've been holding back on Enchant, because I don't really have any other reasons.

They havent really given anything else in the game, but this is something they chose to say.

In post 3269, Wallflower wrote:@everyone

I can totally see that FL’s posting is ridiculous at times but like it or not they are probably town

no one really doubts that they've completely OGId their alignment. Now i beg people to interact with people who arent FL instead of letting him strangle the gamestate with constant barrages of posts.
Everytime i try to push something he doesn't want it gets shoved down my throat and its frankly ridiculous.

Please dont vote one of the only slots that have done that for me here

enchant is obvscum no matter what people easily pocketed by him saying 1 nice thing say