Camn, I don't need an excuse for scum not to kill me.
And I really am town.
Why would I need to have an excuse to not die, if I was also the type of scum to not pick off PRs?
The fact that you acknowledge that the strategy isn't paying off is what confuses me the most, since according to you it's my own actions that are making it so.
Looking through things now, I just feel so confused when it comes to camn/shaft/Jason.
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:05 am
by The Baltimore Sun
Under 11 hours until deadline.
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:58 am
by camn
↑DeasVail wrote:The fact that you acknowledge that the strategy isn't paying off is what confuses me the most, since according to you it's my own actions that are making it so.
Thats the incredible self-awareness of it.
A hypo-DV-scum thinks this at the start of the game:
"If I claim this role I have.. then the town will give me a pass since I am a PR.. AND I can use my usefullness to the scum as an excuse for not being killed.. because, in my opinion, that is a valid question for a PR who lives through the night.
BUT.. in my WIFOM glory... if I >as scum< actually go after vanillas.. I can pose the exact question I am worried about to the OTHER claimed PRs!
BOO YAH!"
Of course, Pless thirsting for his partner's blood didn't help them.
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:02 am
by DeasVail
Ok, I love WIFOM as scum, so maybe I'd go for that, but I'm hardly a PR, and I don't really get night killed much.
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:13 am
by DeasVail
Ok, I think I'd choose Jason, but you really shouldn't listen to me that much because I have less confidence with this then I usually do with reads (and that's pretty low anyway).
↑DeasVail wrote:The fact that you acknowledge that the strategy isn't paying off is what confuses me the most, since according to you it's my own actions that are making it so.
Thats the incredible self-awareness of it.
A hypo-DV-scum thinks this at the start of the game:
"If I claim this role I have.. then the town will give me a pass since I am a PR.. AND I can use my usefullness to the scum as an excuse for not being killed.. because, in my opinion, that is a valid question for a PR who lives through the night.
BUT.. in my WIFOM glory... if I >as scum< actually go after vanillas.. I can pose the exact question I am worried about to the OTHER claimed PRs!
BOO YAH!"
Of course, Pless thirsting for his partner's blood didn't help them.
This is so fucking stupid I don't know where to begin, but I'm not even going to bother. You've decided to selectively apply things to your notion of what you want this game to believe and quite frankly that has been the overriding problem with this entire game. And part of it is my fault for not fighting harder for the people I was town reading, but people make cases and have their backs up with "I'm right" look I've noted a discrepancy in the text which doesn't even allow for looking for the motivations of people and "how can you not see I'm right" and things like that make me second-guess myself and it shouldn't.
I just can't understand how you are town and are just wholesale discounting other people's reads. Especially when you're own argument is so flimsy and hypothetical that I just can't believe you believe it. That's been part of the problem all game though. "Oh the hydra talking to their other heads scum tell!" "Oh the have a real life not a mafia bot scum tell?" "Oh the checking in to your scum game under an alt scum tell!" Like do you actually believe this shit or is it easier to just get your mislynches that way because that's what this is increasingly looking like.
And if you think that Pless was thirsting for DV or his partners blood, why aren't you voting for either one of the people he was thirsting for? Why aren't you voting for DV today? OR Benmage? Who was the person he said he definitely wanted dead today. Why are you voting for Jason?
You look like you're setting up tomorrow's mislynch.
(And before you flippantly go "lynch me then" note I really really want to. And before you go I'm tired of the insults. This is not an insult. I happen to think you are a conscientious player which is why me feeling like I'm talking to a brick soaked in concrete is making me have very serious doubts about you being town.)
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:04 am
by Shaft
↑DeasVail wrote:Looking through things now, I just feel so confused when it comes to camn/shaft/Jason.
What part did you look through/look over?
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:15 am
by Cerulean
↑Kise wrote:The (active? I'm guessing) ability is called defence attorney.
Kuribo?
pedit: I saw that. You deserve to be replaced.
Kise - why are you guessing defense attorney is an active ability?
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:23 am
by Shaft
Not. I'm guessing that's the word active is what the (A) means.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:24 am
by Shaft
This part of the game is stressful isn't it?
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:31 am
by Cerulean
Okay just checking.
Yes, it is.
I'm going to be bald by the time we get our nigh kill.
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:35 am
by jasonT1981
↑camn wrote:
I agree the Jason wagon sucks, energy wise.. but it would be a pretty easy wagon for scum to push though if it were a mislynch, no?
if you're town, I'm going to eat your soul, shit it out, and then put it back in you
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:05 am
by jasonT1981
So we now have 2 people who think I am town voting me???
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:15 am
by kuribo
I don't think you're town.
Your play has been so anti-town that it's against my better judgement that you could be town.
Your presence is so poisonous in this game that if you're town, I'll never play with you again.
You have a very, very good chance of flipping scum, and I've stated this. But part of me also fears a Kise / camn scumteam.
The fact that certain individuals sat around and did nothing while your wagon languished this long makes me skittish.
Kise white-knighting you makes me skittish.
But, no. I don't think you're town, because your play has been so incredibly, god awfully infuriating that it can only come from either scum or the ABSOLUTELY FUCKING WORST town player in the HISTORY of mafiascum.net.
If you're town, fuck you. You should have replaced out weeks ago. If you're scum, fuck you. We're roping your buddy tomorrow.
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:17 am
by kuribo
I mean, do you seriously not understand why people think you're scum?
"Oh, I lurk as town."
Fuck you. That's not playing mafia. And further, your posts in this game have almost exclusively been "VLA drunk this weekend," so fuck you again.
Hell, on the VERY FUCKING PREVIOUS PAGE, when confronted with why your scumread on me was abject bullshit (and it is, because we all know you're not reading the game), your only response was a halfass "to be fair I've been drinking."
So fuck you. And fuck you.
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:18 am
by kuribo
and the really sad fucking thing is I used to respect you as a player
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:18 am
by kuribo
stick with modding, at least that's one fucking thing you do right
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:31 am
by The Baltimore Sun
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:34 am
by DeasVail
↑Shaft wrote:What part did you look through/look over?
I didn't look through as much as I wanted to to be honest. I looked quickly at Jason, and decided he really didn't look that town.
↑Cerulean wrote:Gods this game is driving me insane. I just read through Jason. I think he might be town.
that's what I've been saying in the QT
The wagon on him seems like it's just waiting for deadline to come along and everyone's just gonna lazypark their vote on him until the neighborhood swoops in for the hammer
