Mainstream Mafia [THE END]

[Kise]

We can no lynch and have them target me to prove I commuted. You game? I'd rather you just throw in the towel so I can nom this town for beating the shit out of mafia and cult all game. I really mean that, we all did good especially when there were more dead scum than town.

[Oversoul]

Who will you go after once I flip?

[Oversoul]

I think your assertion that I was seen killing someone is ridiculous

[penguin_alien]

Jason, can you unvote while we determine the utility of a no-lynch?

[JasonWazza]

Why should i unvote?

You think Kise is going to self hammer in a place like this?

[penguin_alien]

No, but Baby Spice could be cult. If she hammers Kise and he flips town, scum can't risk killing her tonight and have no motive to take the risk, which leaves you at LyLo with Mafia and possible cult. You have no choice but to vote for the most likely Mafia and hope she's not cult, assuming cult win at 50% with no killing roles.

[JasonWazza]

I honestly don't think BS is cult.

[JasonWazza]

Plus if she random hammers i think mafia would take that as her being cult?

[penguin_alien]

So? What incentive does Mafia have to kill cult for us? Especially if cult didn't vanillaize and she's still a bomb?

I ask you again, do you think that your investigation power was worthless on four of ten scum, namely the SK, the Godfather, and cult leaders?

[JasonWazza]

I don't recall you asking that however, i believe it would be accurate that i think they would be inaccurate for them people HOWEVER BS brought up the fact that my letter did actually kinda make JS cult she just didn't notice it straight away.

[penguin_alien]

Something else I was thinking about: the SK was apparently immune to Jason's letter investigation, and I assumed the same E Wapplies to TiphaineDeath. The Thor letter went to a cult recruit, so we got nothing either by Iecerint's choice or interference. I find it curious that the JacobSavage's letter received by Baby Spice said he was helpful and welcoming without implying he was cult. If he had immunity that Thor presumably shared, that makes four of ten scum immune to the cop's power. Kind of a lousy cop.

Here's where I was first speculating, and I see where Baby Spice said that the letter lined up with the fluff about the red /blue pills the day after JacobSavage's lynch. And she did hop on the wagon at L-3.

Fine, assuming we only have to lynch Mafia to win, what do you think about targeting Kise tonight to see if he's out of range with a no lynch today?

[Baby Spice]

Firstly, those who target Kise might not get a fail message.

Have either of you two received one for any night?

[penguin_alien]

...and now I'll drop the cult thing, as I think Baby Spice as cult has little motivation not to hammer. Not sure it all jives, as I don't see why JacobSavage would overestimate the cult threat, but we can sort that out later if it becomes necessary.

I haven't received any fail messages, but since I don't get feedback I wouldn't expect to. I wasn't told that my protection of Toogaloo failed though, so I think that's a pretty clear indication that I won't. However, scum shouldn't NK you, Baby Spice, since you kill them in return, so if Jason sends you a message and you don't get it, you know Kise was commuting and so couldn't have made the kill. As I think Jason is pretty clear-cut town, that works out. I'm assuming the only roleblockers around are dead by this point.

On the other hand, if every single other person is convinced that cult cannot be in play (which should include minimum two other townies besides myself) then we don't lose anything by lynching one of Oversoul and Kise today and lynching the other tomorrow if we choose poorly.

[Baby Spice]

Already received a letter about Kise, on a night he fommuted. But then I think yhe target of JW's action was me not Kise.

[penguin_alien]

In that case I'm game for making a decision this day phase.

[Baby Spice]

Feel free to take your time.

Unvote

I'll be putting it back soon. Just one or two things I want to look at.

[Baby Spice]

Ok, Kise.

Is there perhaps something that you haven't told us yet?

[Kise]

About:
N1; Dramonic (Assumedly false due to his SKness)
N2; Lurker
N3; Baby Spice
N4; Thor665 (blocked/Weird shit happened)
N5; JacobSavage
N6; Oversoul

N7; Kise

N8; Dramonic (hopefully accurate this time)

Also EBWOP i finally saw who P_A protected.

a) Toog kill was pretty terrible though i'm 99% sure he wasn't actually confirmed
b) Dram, i agree that it looks conditional
c) Why Kise?

d) Baby claim my letter

e) is it possible because the Psychiatrist left the Vig turns back into an SK? (i'm just pondering on that one)

I will do shit when baby claims my letter, and Dram explains that kill.

BS never got the letter apparently?

I haven't received any fail messages, but since I don't get feedback I wouldn't expect to. I wasn't told that my protection of Toogaloo failed though, so I think that's a pretty clear indication that I won't.

You remind me that Elyse and Grizz also targeted me. They made no mention of failure either. Shucks.

However, scum shouldn't NK you, Baby Spice, since you kill them in return, so if Jason sends you a message and you don't get it, you know Kise was commuting and so couldn't have made the kill. As I think Jason is pretty clear-cut town, that works out. I'm assuming the only roleblockers around are dead by this point.

This will work too.

BS can you confirm you got no letter about me for night 7?

[Kise]

Sorry, missed including this in my quotes.

Ok, Kise.

Is there perhaps something that you haven't told us yet?

I'm not JS What I've told you is everything. I commute by replying via PM every night that that's what I want to do, and can do so every night. I win when no threats to town exist and I can't talk to anyone outside the game thread.

[Kise]

I got a letter supporting Kise as a taxi driver.

D'oh

[Kise]

No rush but I think this is simple. If you read my posts after voting OS, I show good reason why it's him and not us - and why me as commuting mafia is redundant given the other mafia's roles. OS is flipping out just like JS & pidg have flipped out, trying to use CAPS-fueled AtE instead of properly conducting themselves. OS is hesitant to respond to 3266-3267, claiming he doesn't have time to read it but then sticks around for another hour or two with other posts.

His ideas for who should be lynched (not who is scum) are situational, omgusy at best, survivalistic and ill-thought out. By ill-thought out, I mean it doesn't appear that he's been brewing over who is scum for a long time. It looks like he'll call you scum in short time's notice if he feels it helps him survive; his tone against peng and myself were both on the spot, and both were provoked, not self-initiated. He's only snapped at me this whole game today. Earlier, he claimed suspicion that I could have been the SK - This was after mafia's night 2 kill was absent, winkwink.

I'm here to answer any questions but OS needs to be pressured into responding to my posts. Omgus'ing his way this close to endgame is not how you do it.

[Baby Spice]

I'm just trying to interpret the three letters I've received.

Dram's was real town, JS I can understand to a point (ie: the cult wanting to kill scum too pov)
Yours is different to both of them in that it seems to make you look like a survivor.

[Kise]

I see. Well, I do survive everything. I wouldn't put too much stock in it. It hinted that dram had a day action as well(?). In any event, I'm town and there's nothing more that I've kept from you all.

Stop voting Viomi.

VOTE VIOMI

This has nothing to do with anything I just thought it was funny.

Gonna do a pbp

[Kise]

unvote

[Oversoul]

Why are we assuming that people can't do their claimed action and a kill?

Common mantra is that last scum can normally action and submit the nightkill.