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Post Post #3275 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:55 am

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Fair enough; I guess I kind of see them also as a platform for Metal Sonic to "participate" even though he's really doing nothing at all (e.g. answering your question about how he's sure he's a VT).
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Post Post #3276 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:58 pm

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In post 3273, RedCoyote wrote:
Sugar 3257 wrote:ok and? You know that was the scumkill exactly how? Do you think kills process in the same order each night?
Where did I imply that I know anything about the scumkill?

I said an Amrun kill very much lends credit to Metal Sonic scum.
You said that the kill was by walkers, and that the only way those walkers could have been influenced was if I sent them myself.
I explained that I did not claim that whatsoever, but that it's expected that the scum have a herder.

I am making an educated guess. I don't know that it was a scumkill, but I am saying that if it was, Amrun fits the bill for someone Metal Sonic scum would want to have gotten rid of.
Are you trolling me?!?

If you have the belief that MS is scum and that the death of Amrun points that then yes you are claiming that you think Amrum was a scumkill.

Why do you think the Amrun kill points to MS scum but the Trust Fund kill doesn't point to Titus scum?
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Post Post #3277 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2013 3:23 pm

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So caught up on day3.

Since I don't have opinions on anyone alive, Going to go back and read Chesskid and Elli interactions.

As for last night, think of a Universal Roleblocker/Horde Summoner that probably activated their ability.

My first thought would be they would be town, as it would prevent scum/SK kills but increase zombie-related deaths (and prevent
Hiding
).
However, I don't like the timing, as with 2 scum down the chance to zombie-kill scum is decreased.

Suffice to say I believe that is the cause of the lack of actions and special events of last night. I also believe it's one-shot, but that's also just speculation.
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Post Post #3278 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2013 9:54 pm

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Whut?
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Post Post #3279 (ISO) » Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:18 pm

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In post 3273, RedCoyote wrote:
I said an Amrun kill very much lends credit to Metal Sonic scum.
You said that the kill was by walkers, and that the only way those walkers could have been influenced was if I sent them myself.
I explained that I did not claim that whatsoever, but that it's expected that the scum have a herder.

I am making an educated guess. I don't know that it was a scumkill, but I am saying that if it was, Amrun fits the bill for someone Metal Sonic scum would want to have gotten rid of.

this is a stupid and bad theory by the way

do i look like i joined just 2 weeks ago? is my join date july 25th? there is seriously no need for me to kill like the "towniest" player in the game only newbies do that

also since im being so useless my theoretical mafia partners are going to bus me like fuck right now

and if im town the mafia are going to mislynch me like fuck right now



take a good, hard look at what's going on and look at the big picture

seriously i am a baiter
a player baiter
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Post Post #3280 (ISO) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 2:55 am

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@Metal - so who would you say is the scum(s) voting you?
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Post Post #3281 (ISO) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:12 am

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In post 3243, sangres wrote:How about today?
Sure. Just give me some time to run my errands.
In post 3246, Titus wrote:OMGL's play makes sense. I can't see anyone healing Mastin so that implies that Mastin2 likely has a vest of some sort. Voting him, worst case scenario, lose a bp. Best case lynch vested/immune scum.
Except I've already explicitly said I have no way of stopping a kill on me. Other than the standard hide, for zombie-based killers, which OGML is not. No BP, no commute, nothing. If the shot is real, it was not stopped on my end.

This is an incredibly narrow-minded approach, too, that "If OGML is being truthful, we lynch scum. If Mastin isn't scum, OGML isn't being truthful and we lynch him." That's not what you said, sure. But it's what your words are actually saying. I asked my questions to OGML for a dang-good reason.

...Heck. Let's extend those questions to the whole town.

-Why did you think OGML shot at me?
-Why do you think OGML's shot didn't go through? I can tell you, I have no way of stopping a kill on me.
-What do you think of ActionDan apparently thinking OGML was going to make that kill on me?
In post 3273, RedCoyote wrote:Focusing entirely too hard on AD when there's clearly no interest in that wagon today. I personally think it's a waste of time. His energy could be better served in looking other places. Even if he was really sure that AD was scum, he could look for other scum and tunnel less.
I've been focusing on AD
to generate interest in his lynch today
. Because apparently I'm YET AGAIN the only person thinking he's scum, and sooner or later, be it via a misvig or a scumkill or bad luck with the walkers, I'm going to end up dead, and nobody's going to want to lynch him anymore because the ONE guy not blind to his scumplay ended up dead.

But let me show you my iso, and all its not-AD content. I'll start with an appetizer, which summarizes all of the below, because I've addressed this utterly-moronic argument before.
In post 2272, mastin2 wrote:
In post 2271, No Brains Here wrote:@ mastin
any other thoughts other than dan? it seems to me you are being a bit stingy with your reads
Plenty?

Like, Metal Sonic (pitoli) is scum, TIP (GiF) looks like scum to me, I have a big massive whopping huge townbloc which I've commented on (positions on it have slightly changed, but the names present are the same), and I'm still sorting out the names not on it.

ActionDan may be the focus of my reads, but there's a dang-good reason; because if I'm not focusing on him, apparently, nobody else will be. :P
Spoiler: It's long, so it'll need this
In post 143, mastin2 wrote:As much an outlaw as Desperado may be, I'm reasonably certain that hanging the criminal this early would be stiffing. I'd have to go back and double-check to be sure, but I think Desperado is at 6/10 votes, or something close to that.

Geez, guys. I know we like to talk a lot, that in this town, it's going to be hard and fast, or not done at all. But I really don't think we want to apply that to the lynch. :P
I say the wagon on Desperado is bad. I also caution
against the very quicklynches we've suffered from this game
, all the way back then, because apparently I'm psychic and can predict how much trouble we're going to be in. :P Despite the joking tone of the post, this was entirely serious.
In post 164, mastin2 wrote:[L-6] Desperado: Sangres, Mattp, borkjerfkin, Amrun, Sugar Cain, StupendousKey.

The first five votes are all professional zombie-killers, who work well as a unit. The sixth voter, on the other hand, who brought Desperado half way to being lynched, not so much. Regardless of Desperado's alignment, there be scum.

VOTE: Stupendous Key.
Mini-wagon-analysis, where I say that the first five voters were town and had good reasons to join, whereas the sixth person joining looked to be joining for the sake of bandwagoning, hence my vote on them. I was pursuing a lead and thought they might have been scum.
In post 1516, mastin2 wrote:But I'll be blunt. It's plainly obvious to anyone paying attention--this is not a game we'll win by lynching scum. It's a game we'll win by not lynching town. Basically, via a townbloc and by POE'ing the names not on there. Now, granted, obviously we'll still be aiming to lynch scum, but the important bit is the townbloc. :P
So with that, a quick rundown of the town:

Tier 1:

Amrun and Toogeloo are basically conftown from their claims.
MattP--do I need to say why?
Sangres--nope, no Nacho paranoia here. He's as town as he gets this game.
Sugar Cain--I don't see the case against them. I'm not entirely sure, but I AM
reasonably
certain that this is Nero's townplay, here. If I had to give a percentage, I'd say I'm ~90% sure that he's town, and that's more than enough for me.

Tier 2:

Desperado--this might catch some players by surprise, but I've actually quite liked his posting thusfar. It seems right in line with what I understand to be his town self, though, granted, I haven't had enough exposure to be sure. That said, again, I like his reasoning and like his posts overall.
OhGodMyLife--I'll be blunt. I've read and see the accusation of the scumslip...but I don't see the scumslip. Quite frankly, I don't see why there are so many votes on OGML. Admittedly, I'm more familiar with OGML as a mod than a player, but this is in line with what I understand to be OGML's townplay, not his scumplay.
No Brains Here--Honestly, the only reason they're not Tier 1 is because I historically have sucked at reading both of their halves, but especially DGB. :P Their posting seems incredibly town to me, and I'm not seeing any scum in there at all.
Thor665--similar to NBH, I'd have Thor as Tier 1 if I didn't historically
suck
at reading him. :P His posts look town, breathe town, and so, he's probably scum. :P (But in all seriousness, he's town.)

Those nine names are, as far as I'm concerned, unlynchable. That leaves:
Pitoli, RedCoyote, Titus, Bork, PV, M2, Aj, Elli, AD, and GIF. Ten names remaining. So, I need to narrow it down a bit further.

Red Coyote:
His vote on StupendousKey was bad, as it allowed for the quick end to D1. You can argue whether that's a good thing or a bad thing, but in general, it's considered a mark against a player. Additionally, the post which had it (730) seems a bit "shallow", so to speak, in that RC's not putting the passion of a town player I'd expect.
...
That said
, I still have him as a very weak townlean. Though the content may seem a bit empty (so to speak), the actual content itself looks reasonably town. Furthermore, RC's play is admittedly apathetic, which offers a nice justification for the hollow-looking posting. His heart doesn't look like he's into it because it's quite clear he's not into it. :P Plus (this is only from memory), I seem to recall that RC always posts in a matter similar to this. It's not a strong townread, but it's strong enough to where he's getting a pass.

Unfortunately, I can't say I've got townreads anywhere else.
Titus:
Jon Doe's posts rubbed me the wrong way for the majority of yesterday and today, for that matter. The stupid AtE that got half the hydra kicked out of the game
did
have an air of legitimacy around it, however. Titus's posts are overall better--not great, but better. So, my overall read is ambivalent, pending reread.
Bork:
Bork's posting is a whole lotta null. There may be some playstyle tells regarding bork (I seem to recall that), but I'm not familiar enough with him to actually know what they are. He could be town, he could be scum; I'll leave it to someone more qualified than I am. Gun to my head, though, I'd say more town than scum.
PV:
Not going to even try. :P I'll let others read him. He's the kind of player who I generally can catch if he's scum and interacts with his scumbuddies, but otherwise, my read on him will be off.
Aj:
Not a fan of his posting, but I seem to recall that I NEVER am. :P He's a scumread, but a weak one.
Ellibereth:
Admittedly, my meta of Elli is old, outdated, and not very detailed. However, I seem to recall that Elli's antics in this game are just Elli being Elli. There's not much to see, so I'm waiting for more info, to get a more concrete read.

ActionDan:
A decently-solid scumread of mine, and among my top candidates for a lynchin'.
GiF:
Not enough content to be certain, but what's there is fairly weak. I seem to recall GiF being a stronger player than this as town, and that this is in line with his scum meta. (Then again, I'm Mastin; my memory's faulty. :P)
And last but not least...
pitoli:
I have absolutely zero experience with pitoli. All I know about her is that she's apparently a fan of my MD work. :P I'm going back and forth on her in my head. Sometimes she's town, sometimes she's scum. Overall, I'm not liking what pitoli is saying and pushing, but pitoli's tone and apparent mindset
looks
town. Let me put it to you this way. If she's as good a listener to my MD threads as I remember, she very easily could be scum who is using my tips against me. That is, her reads seem like they're pushing a scum agenda, but are pushing in a matter which
looks
like town. So overall, gun to my head, I'd say scum. But I don't know her well enough to be sure.

Now, let's compile this into a
Tier 3
:

Red Coyote
Bork
Titus

...Which leaves us with {mastin2, PV, Aj, Elli, ActionDan, GiF, pitoli} outside the townbloc.

Vote: ActionDan
.
Oh, look, I quoted the entirety of this post, because this is me, giving reads on
every player in the game
, including scumreads on GiF (TIP's slot), pitoli (MS's slot), and, yes, ActionDan. This is the antithesis of focusing too much on ActionDan. If anything, I should have been focusing
more
on him; if you recall, AD's initial OMGUS was based off of me
not
having focused on him.
In post 2086, mastin2 wrote:
In post 1522, sangres wrote:Mastin, ISO AJ in the Xenoblade game. Tell me what you think.
Remind me to do this later. At the moment, too lazy. :P In the mean time, if it's that critical, you can tell me what I'm supposed to be looking for there, compared to what I'm supposed to be looking for here. (Presumably, you have Aj as a townread. I'm actually willing to trust that, but I'd like an explanation.)
In post 1584, sangres wrote:Mastin I feel like you're trying to get inside my head here. It makes me a little nervous.
Nacho, you might require a QT to be a Mindreader when it comes to me, but I know you well enough that I don't require a QT to get inside YOURS. :P Just because we're not hydra'ing
this
game doesn't mean we can't effectively be hydra'ing. :P
In post 2066, sangres wrote:That being said, I don't really like the strong townread on me without actually working with me, but that more of a minor worry that will be smoothed out as mastin eases himself into the game.
Nacho, you underestimate your ability to make yourself conftown. :P Like, seriously. How could I
not
have a townread on you? I may not have worked with ya, but you were posting plenty, so you might as well have been working with me. Seriously. This is the town-you. It's about as obvious as it gets.

That said, I would find it easier to ease into the game if we were posting less often. :P I generally am a busy man, and typically only post 1-3 times a day. It's easier for me to work with people on a similar activity level. Posting 30 times a day or posting once every three days; both are equally difficult as far as I'm concerned. (Or, worst, the ones who cycle between the two. :P) The middle-ground is ideal.
In post 1527, Ellibereth wrote:yo mastin
dis meta
wut game
Gonna have to be more specific; meta on which player? :P I used meta in a lot of my reads. Including ActionDan. (But we'll get to that in a bit.)
In post 1580, ActionDan wrote:What Mastin's post does:
blahblahblah
Together [these actions] play into the claimed narrative of working from the 'protect town' perspective more than feels necessary.
You're missing the true point of that post, AD. The point of that post was to tell a joke, while giving content. The entirety of that post was meant to be forming the townbloc, and then delivering the punchline about how I was outside of it. I ended up not having enough names in my townbloc, forcing me to improvise some scumhunting to flesh out the townbloc some more. Heck, I wasn't even planning on originally having ANYTHING in there about my scumreads, wanting to do that in a separate post, even though I had always planned to end that post voting for you. The price I pay for setting up a good joke... :P

Now, to offer a proper explanation for my AD scumread, to borrow a bit from more arrogant scumhunters, the reason I'm voting him is that he's scum. :P Simple as that. But since y'all need more than that, AD's posts here are a dead-ringer for Pinkmin Mafia, and do not have that feeling of pro-townness that I remember coming from him in whatever game(s) I saw him as town in. (I recall there being at least one or two, but heck if I remember which games they are. :P) Furthermore, beyond the meta, there's the (lack of) content in them; his posting is largely shallow and empty. Heck, his entire reason for voting me is very largely OMGUS in nature, because I voted him. Of all my scumreads, none are stronger than my scumread on him.
In post 1962, MattP wrote:VOTE: Bork
He had too much inside knowledge about all of this.
Right idea, wrong player. If you want to look at a player who knows too much, I present to you...Action Dan.
In post 1909, ActionDan wrote:Nvm this is fucking dumb
However: There is more than meets the eye. Zombies are easily fooled, tricked, or manipulated due to their lack of intelligence, and there may or may not be external factors that can change the outcome of the mechanic. These factors may or may not come from certain players that will have special, unique, and new roles that will specifically interact with the mechanic to try and use it to their advantage. A mechanic that may look random may not be so random after all.
But FAR more importantly, this:
In post 1932, ActionDan wrote:I think the "not controlled by any player" means no one player IS the zombie hoard or aligned with them. "Controlled" is the operative word here and I'm not sure it was meant in sense of players not being able to "control" or influence the zombie hoard's kill(s).
Why is this so important? Because it reeks of him knowing what NBH claims here:
In post 1957, No Brains Here wrote:Our ability is herd. We can try to herd the zombie horde to our target, no guarantee this will work. And dear god forgive me, I just noticed - there is a note saying that we may or may not be the sole proprietors of this power.
...BEFORE they had claimed it. Meaning, he already knew. Meaning, he had access to that information. Meaning, he's scum. There's nothing obvtown about AD's posting during that timeframe. Quite the opposite; he's showing his scum wincon as clear as day. Read all his posts during that timeframe, too. They REEK of knowing too much, and where he shows "confusion" looks INCREDIBLY faked. All the while, it seems like he's not trying to figure things out (he already knows), but rather, trying to figure out how to best manipulate this to his advantage. In fact, look at this.
In post 2034, ActionDan wrote:well also NBH role does prevent random kills by 3rd party zombie hoard so it's stronger than you give it credit for.
Where did NBH claim this piece of info? I don't recall seeing it from them at all. Mesthinks that AD knows something about the zombie hoard that the down does not.
I'm quoting this one in its entirety, too, because it shows how much I was doing. I was working with others and addressing their concerns, while also pushing my own read further. Including an exact reasoning behind my ActionDan read, in explicit detail.
In post 2264, mastin2 wrote:
In post 2133, Desperado wrote:Dan and Elli are both scum. 1a and 1b least genuine reactions to all of the claims + their interaction on the Stup wagon. We've already got 3 townies on Elli so what are the rest of you waiting for?
Here's the thing, though.

I want to have a read on Elli. I really do. Elli's hanging there at null, and I'd love to move Elli into a category one way or the other. But when it comes to cases for why Elli is scum...I mostly am only seeing "lol elli, u so scum". As the entirety of the justification for why Elli is scum. I'm just not seeing a case against Elli. Yours is one of the best, and even then, it's not detailed.
What
in Elli's interactions with the claim wasn't genuine? I can't tell.
How
was Elli's interaction on the Stup wagon bad? (Okay.
That
one, I can probably see. :P But I want
your
take on it.) For the most part, I'm not seeing it. And the fact that the Elli wagon has as much support as it does without a proper case is deeply,
deeply
concerning for me.

Whereas with Action Dan? AD, I've presented a case for. I've explained why he's a scumread, shown crystal-clear evidence. While I have hinted at the same things (his bad interactions during the claim and handling of the Stup wagon), I have given examples and elaborated. And yet, people have mostly brushed it off, going "lol, sure, but let's lynch elli first". If they even address my Action Dan case at all; most people seem to be entirely ignoring it.

And, well...that's pretty condemning itself. :P When people ignore Mastin, chances are, he's right. :P So I currently have Elli as being mislynch-bait (town), and again, ActionDan as my strongest scumread who the scum are trying to protect via lynching Elli.

Edit:
Well, maybe not.
Mod wrote:[L-3] Ellibereth: Thor665, Desperado, Sangres, Amrun, Toogeloo, borkjerfkin, No Brains Here
The only name on here who could be scum is bork. So, it's not a scum-driven wagon. But I don't think it's a wagon on scum, either. I think that Elli is a derp-mislynch in the making, whereas if people applied whatever their logic is on Elli to, say,
ActionDan
, they'd have a lynch on scum.
In post 2137, Desperado wrote:Do you think Pitoli-scum would privately ask the mod to be replaced?
Yes.
Especially
via QT. Scum replacing out via asking in the QT is actually one of the most common ways scum ask to be replaced. They don't bother with an in-thread explanation, because said in-thread explanation can potentially (albeit highly unlikely) compromise their slot.
In post 2177, RedCoyote wrote:Why would [TIP] tell people who you thought had PRs?
Simple: he's scum. ;)
In post 2188, No Brains Here wrote:so when you started reading the game here:
In post 2163, TheIrishPope wrote:So many fucking hydras.
Reading up 87 beautiful pages. A tl;dr and a reason why Titus is the major wagon would be appreciated.
in a short amount of time you managed to get caught up to know what our role is and nothing else?
In post 2166, TheIrishPope wrote:You were the one who claimed horde controller or some shit right?
and why are you focused on our role rather than interested in scumhunting?
I was so excited when I saw you replacing in tip and now you are just breaking my heart.
Again, the reason is because TIP is scum. Probably scum who has access to more info than the town, that's faking ignorance.
In post 2189, Sugar Cain wrote:This is townTIP mollie
Leave him alone
You're gonna have to explain that to me, reeeeeeeeeeeeal slow. This aint the town-TIP I've come to expect in a game at all.
And this one, too. This one only has some vague references to AD. Its focus is on another target of interest (Elli) along with my other scumreads: TIP and pitoli's slot, MS.
In post 2373, mastin2 wrote:
In post 2274, Amrun wrote:mastin, vote pitoli slot with me.
While I'm willing, I'd much prefer an ActionDan lynch. Right now, my AD wagon might actually have the momentum necessary to go through, so I can't sheep you.

Anyway, I'm going to re-emphasize this. OGML, Sangres is town. I would much prefer you shoot elsewhere. (For instance, if I got my way and AD was lynched, Metal Sonic would be an excellent vig.) Elsewhere
not
being Sugar Cain, because that hydra is just about as town as it gets. This is Nero's townplay, through and through. The more he posts (itself contributing to the towntell :P), the more that becomes clear. It's more than meta; it's also his mindset and his content.

Speaking of which, Nero--help me here. What's your read on AD?
I reach out to Amrun, OGML, and Nero, here, explaining why I'm on ActionDan some more, explaining my willingness to be on MS, and reinforcing my townread on Sangres. While AD is present in this post, he is yet again not the focus of said post.
In post 2537, mastin2 wrote:
In post 2374, TheIrishPope wrote:
In post 2373, mastin2 wrote:Speaking of which, Nero--help me here. What's your read on AD?
In post 0, mastin2 wrote:-
Talk to the players, not at them.
It's a subtle, but vital, difference. Talking TO a player is working with them, it's trying to appeal specifically at them. Talking AT a player is talking which just so happens to be addressed to a player, but isn't really meant for them.
Bahaha. Don't make it too obvious you're scum, dear Mastin.
You sheep herder.
Getting everyone to follow you won't help you, nope never ever
You're making a wonderful case for why I'm town, TIP, considering talking to a player is exactly what I was doing. :P
In post 2377, Sugar Cain wrote:I like AD scum Mastin, I've stated as much in thread I think? Nero hasn't been opposed to it, so I think he also agrees....

why are you only addressing Nero, and ignoring me? :(
~Sugar
Sorry, Mara, but the reason is because I know Nero a whole heck of a lot better than I know you. We may have played before, but never truly interacted. Whereas with Nero? I know him. But anyway, if you agree with me that AD's scum, I'd really appreciate having help lynching him.
In post 2431, ActionDan wrote:Mastin, precisely how much did you meta me? Did you look at both my completed scum games + the QTs?
My meta is whatever games we've played together in.
In post 2475, Amrun wrote:Your "evidence" is so wrong I don't even know where to begin. Scum asks two other players to hammer without reading. Conclusion? They're his scum buddies! Jesus fuck, it's so wrong I just want to curl up into fetal position and let someone else explain why it is so wrong.
Except that's
exactly
the kind of stunt I can see him pulling as scum*. (I feel like I've said this before...)

*"Wait, does that mean you have a scumread on Elli, now?" A mild one, yes. His claimed PR is enough where I'm not going to lynch him today, but he's definitely not a townread. But I can't emphasize this enough: Elli shouldn't be lynched with that claimed PR. He's lying? He still has to fake results, and fake them believably. He's telling the truth? We don't want him lynched. :P He's probably lying, yeah, but I'm not willing to risk it today.
This post admittedly has a primary focus on ActionDan, but is again not devoted entirely to him, as people have been misrepping me to be doing. I again reach out to Nero's slot (the other half of it) and Amrun, trying to work with them, and explaining some more my scumreads on TIP and then-Elli, along with
exactly
why we shouldn't have lynched him.
In post 3119, mastin2 wrote:TIP and AD both defending Elli reinforces them being scum, by the way.
---
Had I been around, I would have switched to Metal Sonic in an effort to prevent the scum-driven buslynch on Elli and to wagon different-player-but-still-scum Metal Sonic.
[LYNCHED] Ellibereth: Thor665, Desperado, Toogeloo, borkjerfkin, PeregrineV, RedCoyote, Aj The Epic, Titus, No Brains Here, TheIrishPope
Looking at maybe-bork (need to double-check), maybe-RC (also need to double-check), Titus (also also need to double-check :P), and TIP for the scum on the wagon. Obviously not all of them, but the scum on the wagon
is
there,
especially
in the form of TIP.
In post 3009, ActionDan wrote:I was waiting for the lack of reevaluation from Mastin.
The thing is, reevaluation only happens when it's for the better. If I reevaluated my read on you from scum to town, that'd be wrong. :P Thus the lack of it. There
are
reads I'm reconsidering. (See above.) There
are
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For the record, it's blatantly obvious Sangres is town. Also also, for those saying I'm only focusing on ActionDan, you're dead-wrong. I have posted content on MULTIPLE players, scattered throughout my iso, even having a full reads list at least once. (A reads list in desperate need of revision, but a reads list all the same.) Among the more important ones being my TIP and pitolislot scumreads.
Cutting out the content which is AD-focused and Elli-focused, you still have this much of that post remaining. I explain myself rather well in that post, and again, show that my reads are
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-Why did you shoot at me?
-Why do you think your shot didn't go through? I can tell you, I have no way of stopping a kill on me.
-What do you think of ActionDan apparently thinking you were going to make that kill?

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I'm not? Not as far as I can tell, anyway. :P I've been reading your posts; did I miss something?

I'll see if I can get those revised reads up today. No promises; it depends on whether I feel like posting in this game again or not, today.
Here, I address OGML. The questions here are a bit focused on ActionDan, yes, but they have alternative purposes. I also reinforce my TIP-scumread, and address Sangres who was reaching out to me.
tl;dr? ActionDan has been the focus of my reads, as I have consistently been trying to draw attention his way and make others realize his scumminess. However, despite my attention to him, I have contributed plenty-more beyond the AD-read, content others seem to "conveniently" completely forget about existing in their push against me.
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Post Post #3282 (ISO) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:46 am

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In post 1869, No Brains Here wrote:
In post 1850, No Brains Here wrote:We are Michonne. We send walkers.
we are the town herder we make a bunch of noise and send walkers out to nk our targets. vig vig vig


I wanted to nk sangres but I lost the battle. chesskid was me, compromising.
In post 1897, ActionDan wrote:If anything DGB is still not scum.

Maybe lyncher.

But lyncher to vig seems... unlikely? Confirmable role and all (I guess less so with zombie hoard but)

I accept "tradition"
I also think DGB's method is ok since its flavor and it's not against the mechanics of the Zombie hoard.


Different story if no kill flavor's can actually match the zombie hoard's kill flavor.

To that end. I will ask a more specific question than Elli's

@MOD Can the kill flavor specific to the zombie hoard match any other kill flavor not specifically made by the zombie hoard?
Since I see you quoted your case against me again Mastin, I figured I'd quote the relevant two quotes with the important bolded parts that shoots the bottom half of the first explanation of why I'm scum to shit. This was the "false" part of it.
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Post Post #3283 (ISO) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:04 am

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btw Mastin. I am willing to at least give you some benefit of the doubt that you are truly in error in your push against me. This will require at minimum rescinding the "knowing too much argument" that you used against me. Then I require some re-analysis after rescinding it to see if you think your vote should still be on me. You will have to consider my rebuttal to the only relevant part of your accusation in #2975.
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Post Post #3284 (ISO) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:23 am

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Mastin, we both have scum reads on RC so we don't you sheep me?
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Post Post #3285 (ISO) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:28 am

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btw, I didn't read much of RC's giant wall besides the part about me.

But it was so honest. It's hard to imagine people having scumreads on him.
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Post Post #3286 (ISO) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:35 am

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If you didn't really read it how do you know its honest?
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Post Post #3287 (ISO) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:51 am

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I read my own part. and that was a good assessment
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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Post Post #3288 (ISO) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:52 am

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In post 3286, Sugar Cain wrote:If you didn't really read it how do you know its honest?
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Post Post #3289 (ISO) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:56 am

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In post 3287, ActionDan wrote:I read my own part. and that was a good assessment
he is hedging.
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Post Post #3290 (ISO) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:57 am

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In post 3287, ActionDan wrote:I read my own part. and that was a good assessment
oh God. This reminds me so much of Politics Mafia were Locke Lamora calls his scumbuddy Philamon scum and Phil was like "hey that's a good assessment"
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Post Post #3291 (ISO) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:09 am

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Chesskid read a total bust. Only thing it looks like they might not have fakeclaims name-wise, but I find that hard to believe since that would make the game breakable by flavor.
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Post Post #3292 (ISO) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:52 am

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In post 3290, Sugar Cain wrote:
In post 3287, ActionDan wrote:I read my own part. and that was a good assessment
oh God. This reminds me so much of Politics Mafia were Locke Lamora calls his scumbuddy Philamon scum and Phil was like "hey that's a good assessment"
that's cool

0 relevance to this game.
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Post Post #3293 (ISO) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:02 pm

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How we doing on this Mastin lynch guys?
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Post Post #3294 (ISO) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:03 pm

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BTW reacting to the accusation that you're focusing on ActionDan too much by working up another enormous wall about ActionDan does not impress.
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Post Post #3295 (ISO) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:13 pm

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no it's just the reiteration of his posts where he points out stuff that wasn't on me. He at least isn't adding anything new to his charges against me
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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Post Post #3296 (ISO) » Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:03 am

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UNVOTE:

Think it's about time for a reset.
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Post Post #3297 (ISO) » Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:23 am

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Well, nothing to comment on
just the tIP
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Post Post #3298 (ISO) » Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:30 am

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I'm cooling off on Sugar Cain I think.
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Post Post #3299 (ISO) » Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:43 am

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In post 3292, ActionDan wrote:
In post 3290, Sugar Cain wrote:
In post 3287, ActionDan wrote:I read my own part. and that was a good assessment
oh God. This reminds me so much of Politics Mafia were Locke Lamora calls his scumbuddy Philamon scum and Phil was like "hey that's a good assessment"
that's cool

0 relevance to this game.
What was I thinking here? Nope, no scum ever flips for the same reasons which also means scumtells don't exist. Thank you Dan for showing me the error in my ways.
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