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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:59 am
by Majiffy
VOTE: Nashville

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:08 am
by Cutty Shark
So Majiffy...

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:08 am
by Cutty Shark
OkaPoka wrote:VOTE: anatole

deadline coming

Why not us or Nashville?
Also lol deadline is 3 days away

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:10 am
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
Part of me wants to lynch Majiffy just because I feel that nothing makes sense from a town POV but they make sense if he wants to let Anatole get lynched today and continue going after Nashville/Cutty.

The thing is I can't figure out which of Oka/Anatole/Majiffy are town. None of them feel like it.

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:21 am
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
Majiffy, explain your townread on Anatole.

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:24 am
by fferyllt
Part of me agrees with you about Majiffy.

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:40 am
by OkaPoka
Cutty Shark wrote:
OkaPoka wrote:VOTE: anatole

deadline coming

Why not us or Nashville?
Also lol deadline is 3 days away

I can go with Nash too.

You guys only if Anatole/Nashville or not viable.

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:51 am
by Cutty Shark
So you'd be willing to lynch us even though you don't think we're scum, and a mislynch could fuck us over?

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:55 am
by OkaPoka
When did I say you aren't scum?

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:01 am
by Cutty Shark
You think there are three scum?

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:01 am
by OkaPoka
No.

But what if I'm wrong with my picks of scum?

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:06 am
by fferyllt
why would you compromise lynch in this situation?

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:54 am
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
Continuing with my ISO of Anatole:

Anatole Kuragin wrote:
Baboon Pride wrote:
Anatole Kuragin wrote:
Baboon Pride wrote:
Anatole Kuragin wrote:I don't feel compelled to point out the fourth vote is RVS by Fonz and one of his three total posts

I'm not asking you to deconstruct the wagon. I'm asking you to deconstruct the argument that 4T is scum. I don't care what you think of the players who agree.


I more or less pointed out that your reasons for voting him were shit in my above post. It's not my job to show that he is town, just that he's not the scummiest option to vote. The burden of proof if on the 4t wagon and none of the cases are remotely convincing.


You've done no such thing. All you said that I was attacking the playstyle and not his alignment and I'm not...?

Pushing an easy target isn't a playstyle quirk
Realizing that you could be doing an OMGUS, and keeping yourself from doing so isn't a playstyle quirk
Proactivity is generally towny. I note he lacked that
Reactivity is generally scummy. I noted that the majority of his posts were reactive

where is the playstyle bash?


The argument about his proactivity came across to me as criticizing his playstyle with "I do this, you didn't so you are scum" reasoning. You make the point that he asks for help and you DEMAND it like that is an inherently towny trait. That came across as just aggressive bullshitting to me. I see what you're saying more with the proactivity vs. reactivity tautology spelled out for a simpleton like me.

You're still operating with the "generally" modifier and that's a pretty big generally. I think all of us have seen plenty of aggressive/proactive scum and passive/reactive townies. The easy target thing is a salient point.

This post shows a level of depth in scumhunting that I find it hard to believe Anatole thought Mara was scum for the reasoning he used earlier (the one that Cutty knocked down).

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:05 am
by OkaPoka
Because we have 2 conftowns.

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:18 am
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
Anatole Kuragin wrote:
Honey bee wrote:
@Ak: what was your lissa reason because of? Sorry if I missed it.


Her early posts gave me an artificial vibe - and dropping an RVS vote then later justifying it as a real case because 4t got some traction on him then the way she and baboon are townreading eachother (Baboon mentions she is townreading Lissa more times than Lissa has posts I think) made me think they make a lot of sense as a scum team.

I'm holding off on her because the neighborhood people said that her actions in response to the scum/hood reveal were legit, then her being in the neighborhood could also explain the artificial feeling to her posts (since she's posting content elsewhere) and her predilection for baboon and vice versa.

I don't like that you are already making associations with Baboon so early on in the game. Baboon is townreading Lissa and that makes you suspect Lissa?

I guess it also makes sense if you are so sure about one of them and emotionally invested in that read but you seemed to be fairly distant from it so I don't get the certainty.

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:18 am
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
* suspect Lissa more.

(I know you had independent reasons for suspecting Lissa)

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:32 am
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
Anatole Kuragin wrote:Gossamer and Fonz are townreads.

Why is Fonz a townread? Also, I asked this before but you haven't specifically pointed what Tammy-posts felt similar to her posts in Timeshift. I see Tammy in Timeshift aggressivly pushing lynches, melting down at Bert, and posting lots of analysis upon replacing in. I'm not seeing any similarities in her posting at the point where you replaced in.

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:01 am
by fferyllt
OkaPoka wrote:Because we have 2 conftowns.


This is MYLO/LYLO.

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:10 am
by Cutty Shark
Since when did Oka even have reads

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:11 am
by Cutty Shark
And why are you (Oka) townreading Majiffy?
Why are you scumreading Nashville?

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:11 am
by Cutty Shark
Let's throw in: What's your read on us?

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:23 am
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
Anatole Kuragin wrote:I could get behind that lynch. Honey Bee is giving me pretty similar vibes to Lissa.

Why did you never mention Honey Bee before this then?

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:28 am
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
Anatole Kuragin wrote:I won't pretend I'm doing any great scumhunting or that I have any great insight. All I can say is I find Baboon, Honey, and Lissa suspicious for gut reasons. And I know you think it's bullshit but literally any of my town games (they are in my wiki) show that I am pretty much always wrong day one, then go hulk later in the game. I'm 5-0 in town games and this is how every one has worked.

I have some set-up info as far as likely scum roles but they would probably give away what my role - up to you guys if you think I should spill it.

If Anatole had two thirds of the scumteam pegged, why would the scum shoot IHNC and Fonz over him?

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:33 am
by Majiffy
Cutty Shark wrote:So Majiffy...

Effort.

F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Majiffy, explain your townread on Anatole.

Voting patterns just don't make sense with the scumflips.

Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:52 am
by Cutty Shark
Majiffy wrote:Effort.

3 days left, game on the line
Thanks for replacing in :roll: