Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:45 pm
Can you not lynch me I'm town just lazy
Who should we lynch instead?In post 3275, HeWhoSwims wrote:Can you not lynch me I'm town just lazy
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Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:45 pm
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:57 pm
This seems LAMIST as hell tbh.In post 3198, Skygazer wrote:I volunteer as counterwagon bait
It'd feel wrong to not be wagoned three days in a row
Scum hop on this if you want MoI to live
Plausible.In post 3260, Raskolnikov wrote:Maybe tw is BP SK and that's why one of the nights had no kill HMMM
@Ausika I can live with MoI. At this point I think I'm liking you better. And either it flips town and confs people or it it scum. I'm still not over Sky. More detailed stuff later let me vacuum and get my pc.
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:14 pm
AwwIn post 3202, Ausuka wrote:The worst player in the lynchpool. He hasn't really had any use for the entire game (sorry) and kind of had an awful d2. Like, he spent the entire day saying "oh there's no scum in {a51, profii, xyzzy}- which may very well have been true!- but he made no effort at all to stop town lynching these players. He sat back and watched the xyzzy lynch happen, and he was never truly opposing any lynches. Why? Because he never cast a vote for the entirety of d2.
What could I have done to stop it? Like yeah I was against it and let it be known that I was suspicious of Sky etcetera but that alone isn't going to stop the majority of the game from lynching in that pool is it? And what's placing a vote going to change? Besides I was okay with a xyzzy lynch especially towards day's end.
I also encourage anyone curious enough to take a look at my games to investigate how many votes I use. Seriously, I'm just annoying in that aspect I guess, but I don't vote a lot less or more as scum/town.
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:15 pm
Separate post, sorry: What's this stuff with trackers and fruit? How could a scum tracker help in fakeclaiming fruit? Or is that not what was implied and am I reading wrong...
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:29 pm
You could have, like, voted other players who you were suspicious of and pushed them? A vote for Sky would have made the wagon more viable for sure. And while it's probably true that you don't vote much as town I have a hard time believing that you would choose not to vote for an entire dayphase that not only dragged out to deadline but went further due to all of the extensionsIn post 3278, HeWhoSwims wrote:AwwIn post 3202, Ausuka wrote:The worst player in the lynchpool. He hasn't really had any use for the entire game (sorry) and kind of had an awful d2. Like, he spent the entire day saying "oh there's no scum in {a51, profii, xyzzy}- which may very well have been true!- but he made no effort at all to stop town lynching these players. He sat back and watched the xyzzy lynch happen, and he was never truly opposing any lynches. Why? Because he never cast a vote for the entirety of d2.
What could I have done to stop it? Like yeah I was against it and let it be known that I was suspicious of Sky etcetera but that alone isn't going to stop the majority of the game from lynching in that pool is it? And what's placing a vote going to change? Besides I was okay with a xyzzy lynch especially towards day's end.
I also encourage anyone curious enough to take a look at my games to investigate how many votes I use. Seriously, I'm just annoying in that aspect I guess, but I don't vote a lot less or more as scum/town.
If scum tracked a loyal fruit vendor to scum, that scum could claim fruit, even though they didn't receive it really.In post 3279, HeWhoSwims wrote:Separate post, sorry: What's this stuff with trackers and fruit? How could a scum tracker help in fakeclaiming fruit? Or is that not what was implied and am I reading wrong...
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:34 pm
Ohh. Right.
Ya sorry I just don't really see the difference between suspecting Sky or whoever and having to put a vote there to prove it - it'd only seem useless to me if there isn't going to be a wagon anyway - but that's just a difference in our play I guess. (Also... pretty sure I played my first ever game by only RVS voting. I lost, but shhhh
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Ya sorry I just don't really see the difference between suspecting Sky or whoever and having to put a vote there to prove it - it'd only seem useless to me if there isn't going to be a wagon anyway - but that's just a difference in our play I guess. (Also... pretty sure I played my first ever game by only RVS voting. I lost, but shhhh
)Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:36 pm
I think it would have made a big difference when this happened for example. When someone's at L-3 they become much more likely to get lynched than when they're at L-4 right?In post 2782, Pine wrote:[L-4] Skygazer - Taly, Gamma Emerald, Ausuka, MagnaofIllusion
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:43 pm
Hm. Fair point. I felt as though Sky wasn't ever going to be lynched though and I'm guessing I'd already semi-settled on xyz by that point.
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:16 pm
2. MagnaofIllusion
I mainly find his attack on Ausuka weird. Could lynch, unsure, but it could clear players although I'm forgetting who gave who fruit.
3. Ausuka*
I just generally like her play here, I guess? Especially the stuff later on seems town to me and the fact the loud role is a protective is a good catch, idk what scum!suka would gain from bringing the ordeal up and speculating on GE being cleared.
4. brassherald
Town by fruit and he'd be a big townread regardless.
5. the worst
Bla bla not groupscum bla bla still think this could be a SK, more on this later
7. Gamma Emerald
I guess this is cleared by fruit buuuut the play itself by GE isn't that convincing to me - especially the later part of the ISO has way more role/setup discussion than reads forming imo. HitAlt looks better to me. He really wants to out Duck - he knows he killed Dram - which I think is scummier if TW=vig but townier if TW=serial killer.
8. Skygazer
While she was better on D2 I still don't townread this at all... Still a scumlean. It seems to me that the posts with the most effort are the ones defending herself from a case. Still feel as though most of the time the reads put forward are weak ish or the posts are just "you have a good/bad point" without forming a read if that makes sense... Not a bad thing in itself but it is if it keeps happening I feel.
9. Jingle
This one's due for a huge re read.
10. Chickadee*
I still scumread the play here and I think she was cleared under suspicious circumstances - no clear claim and even the "clearing" was softish I guess?
12. HeWhoSwims*
10/10 amazing guy, town
14. Raskolnikov
Reads seem to be there and there is fruit (good vend imo, works in Ausuka's favor as I think it was her) so I wouldn't lynch this rn.
15. Taly
I think Taly is being great, clear, putting forward a lot of stuff so I'm townreading that.
16. Nosferatu
Still no fan of the clearing stuff... Although scum clearing scum raises a lot of question marks 
Towards the end of Andy's ISO I start to see a bit of the problems I had with Sky - a lot of mechanical stuff. And opinions/observations and less reads. Although I'd still sooner lynch others... I'm not really townreading this.
17. Profii
I don't have an explicit townread here but at the time he got heat I felt it was completely unwarranted.
Criticize or comment all ya want and I'll try to address it with y'all.
I mainly find his attack on Ausuka weird. Could lynch, unsure, but it could clear players although I'm forgetting who gave who fruit.3. Ausuka*
I just generally like her play here, I guess? Especially the stuff later on seems town to me and the fact the loud role is a protective is a good catch, idk what scum!suka would gain from bringing the ordeal up and speculating on GE being cleared.4. brassherald
Town by fruit and he'd be a big townread regardless.5. the worst
Bla bla not groupscum bla bla still think this could be a SK, more on this later7. Gamma Emerald
HitAlt
I guess this is cleared by fruit buuuut the play itself by GE isn't that convincing to me - especially the later part of the ISO has way more role/setup discussion than reads forming imo. HitAlt looks better to me. He really wants to out Duck - he knows he killed Dram - which I think is scummier if TW=vig but townier if TW=serial killer. 8. Skygazer
While she was better on D2 I still don't townread this at all... Still a scumlean. It seems to me that the posts with the most effort are the ones defending herself from a case. Still feel as though most of the time the reads put forward are weak ish or the posts are just "you have a good/bad point" without forming a read if that makes sense... Not a bad thing in itself but it is if it keeps happening I feel. 9. Jingle
Inferno390
This one's due for a huge re read. 10. Chickadee*
I still scumread the play here and I think she was cleared under suspicious circumstances - no clear claim and even the "clearing" was softish I guess? 12. HeWhoSwims*
10/10 amazing guy, town14. Raskolnikov
Reads seem to be there and there is fruit (good vend imo, works in Ausuka's favor as I think it was her) so I wouldn't lynch this rn. 15. Taly
davesaz
I think Taly is being great, clear, putting forward a lot of stuff so I'm townreading that. 16. Nosferatu
AndriusGustavo
Still no fan of the clearing stuff... Although scum clearing scum raises a lot of question marks Towards the end of Andy's ISO I start to see a bit of the problems I had with Sky - a lot of mechanical stuff. And opinions/observations and less reads. Although I'd still sooner lynch others... I'm not really townreading this. 17. Profii
I don't have an explicit townread here but at the time he got heat I felt it was completely unwarranted.Criticize or comment all ya want and I'll try to address it with y'all.
Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:53 pm
please do elaborateIn post 3284, HeWhoSwims wrote:5. the worst
Bla bla not groupscum bla bla still think this could be a SK, more on this later
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:00 am
Oh right
I'm an informed townie with info on # of modifiers which is why I've been asking you to claim yes/no modifier ever since your vig claim =)
I'm an informed townie with info on # of modifiers which is why I've been asking you to claim yes/no modifier ever since your vig claim =)
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:05 am
I uh kinda believe that?
I obviously do because I am Loyal.
We are massclaiming if we have a modifier or not.
I obviously do because I am Loyal.
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:05 am
wait no we're not doing that sorry i'm dumb ignore this ^In post 3287, Ausuka wrote:I uh kinda believe that?We are massclaiming if we have a modifier or not.
I obviously do because I am Loyal.
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:06 am
Still though that could be useful later? but I'm not sure who else to lynch other than HWS
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:12 am
I think HWS is more likely town than MoI after HWS's posts here
Although I'm paranoid that claim was designed to draw out the player with the loud modifier
Although I'm paranoid that claim was designed to draw out the player with the loud modifier
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:15 am
as long as ppl agree that I'm town which I think they do? we have this pool upon a MOI townflip:
8. Skygazer
9. Jingle Inferno390
12. HeWhoSwims*
15. Taly davesaz
17. Profii
which is realistically enough to win the game. And obviously a scumflip is going to be good no matter what. So I think it's best to just flip MOI?
8. Skygazer
9. Jingle Inferno390
12. HeWhoSwims*
15. Taly davesaz
17. Profii
which is realistically enough to win the game. And obviously a scumflip is going to be good no matter what. So I think it's best to just flip MOI?
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:19 am
and even assuming worst case scenario that duckling kills green twice and people lynch me, that's 2 town down from that pool still. which means 3 scum left with 7-9 players left. even if TW is sk, we could still win that. And gamma still has detective powers too not to mention Nos would be town and have his mystery power.
VOTE: MOI
I feel like we're done at this point.
VOTE: MOI
I feel like we're done at this point.
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:21 am
there's a small possibility brass is scum -> tw is BP sk and got hit and i got tracked, which Rask mentioned earlier. I feel like he's probably just town though.
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:57 am
Most people have, from the top of my head I only wanted Chick and DuckIn post 3287, Ausuka wrote:I uh kinda believe that?We are massclaiming if we have a modifier or not.
I obviously do because I am Loyal.
That's not needed, it's about the number of modifiers so I just know there's an extra modifier out thereIn post 3290, Skygazer wrote:I think HWS is more likely town than MoI after HWS's posts here
Although I'm paranoid that claim was designed to draw out the player with the loud modifier
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:59 am
I'd read brass as town regardless. I think the power crumbing at the game start was pretty good
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:04 am
If we go by this I have 2x loyal fruit vendor, activated BP, prime night JK, loud protective. Hider was non modified. Leaves Detective, Visitor, Vengeful and whatever Duck is.In post 3235, Jingle wrote:Vanilla Townie x4
Town Some Kind of Investigative
Town Hider
Town Protective (possibly loud)
Town Detective
Town LFV
Town Odd Night LFV
Town Activated BP
Town Visitor
Town Vengeful
Vig/SK
Mafia Prime-Number-Night Jailkeeper
Mafia Tracker (possibly loud)
Mafia Goon? x2
What I'm struggling with is that we don't have a tracker claim. So we won't know whether they have a modifier. But that may be resolved based on what those^ 4 do.
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:08 am
Bah humbug
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:11 am
In post 1995, Raskolnikov wrote:If Pine added anynight and added activated based on probably this post, it's fairly reasonable that he might have tried to work in informed somehow too while he was at it. But even then I think the spirit of that role is traditionally more of a town thing, mafia are pretty informed by default, and giving mafia informed free setup info onto one of the town PRs would IMO just be kinda lame tbh.
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:13 am
VOTE: moi
I guess this or no lynch welp (or idk profii)
I guess this or no lynch welp (or idk profii)