Open 756: Hope Plus One (Day 5)

[Shoshin]

Why do you assume I need mentoring?

[Shoshin]

With one exception, I've had full scumteam solves in every game I played this year by D2. I think I'm doing pretty well for myself, weird to have someone offer mentoring. The guilty on Titus was fake by the way, in case that wasn't obvious.

[Creature]

Lynch Godmid.

Go into LYLO with you, Icon, and Pops.

Play the game out.

The day was gonna end in a nolynch though.

[RadiantCowbells]

we should have abandoned the game like D2 when it was clear that no one besides me wanted to play the game.

[RadiantCowbells]

I was super psyched for this game and being able to get a win over a fuckton of big name townies but the game got ruined when no one actually wanted to play it.
And then it was ruined for me further when Shoshin's response to me pushing her was to make out of game attacks on my personality.

Shoshin I asked you not to do that after our last game. Do I deserve to be called a terrible person because I'm correctly strongarming a lynch on the cop?
It completely takes me out of the game and I'd have bailed there as town as well.

I realize I haven't been the nicest player but if you set limits I'll respect them. If this is how you're going to interact with my slot I'm going to avoid you in the future.

[RadiantCowbells]

anyway, gg. sorry I left, but that's why.

[Shoshin]

I was super psyched for this game and being able to get a win over a fuckton of big name townies but the game got ruined when no one actually wanted to play it.
And then it was ruined for me further when Shoshin's response to me pushing her was to make out of game attacks on my personality.

Shoshin I asked you not to do that after our last game. Do I deserve to be called a terrible person because I'm correctly strongarming a lynch on the cop?
It completely takes me out of the game and I'd have bailed there as town as well.

I realize I haven't been the nicest player but if you set limits I'll respect them. If this is how you're going to interact with my slot I'm going to avoid you in the future.

I didn't attack your out of game personality at any point. You were treating me like shit in the game & I called you out on this. If that's how you're going to treat me as scum, then you're going to get called out on it.

[Shoshin]

And you keep saying I didn't want to play the game when I clearly did & was efforting a lot.

[RadiantCowbells]

I didn't attack your out of game personality at any point.

Not true:

RC, stop being a shitty human being & allow people to play the game.

with regards to

You were treating me like shit in the game & I called you out on this.

Please cite where you felt I was treating you like shit as opposed to pushing your mislynch.

And you keep saying I didn't want to play the game when I clearly did & was efforting a lot.

I genuinely did and do feel that way.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like, knowing for 100% that you were the cop and didn't want to be a visible player puts an entirely different spin on it.
But you were a lot less present than you usually are and given I was scum pushing your lynch anyway, why does it matter that I'm lying about you on an in-game basis?

[popsofctown]

I read RC's iso and can't find a single post he made about Shoshin that I wouldn't post if I played mafia with my parents.

[Shoshin]

1992 was literally me being treated like shit in the game & me calling you out for it. The words "stop being" limits the term "shitty human being" to the game, as in, you're being shitty right now, not always. It doesn't refer to your out of game personality. When have I ever insulted you outside a game? It's bizarre you'd take that outside the game.

You wouldn't respond to me, you kept telling other players not to talk to me at all, you kept diminishing my effort by saying I wasn't playing the game, gaslighting information, you said I "deserved it" at some point, etc. You don't need to insult someone directly to deny them basic humanity in how you treat them. And if that's how you play as scum, fine. That's called "shitty human being" scum play, because that's literally what it is. You're welcome to do it, and I won't take it personal because I know it's part of the game. But that doesn't mean I won't describe your behaviors for what they are in the game.

I never insulted your out of game personality.

[Shoshin]

I don't KNOW that you're scum until you flip, RC. Until you flip, I'm goign to ask you to "stop being shitty." I didn't say you were as a personaltiy shitty, or I wouldn't ask you to stop it.

[Iconeum]

Lynch Godmid.

Go into LYLO with you, Icon, and Pops.

Play the game out.

Why do you assume I need mentoring?

You should consider the fact that, despite YOU having solved the game early on, you did a VERY poor job at convincing the rest of the town.
Also lying and shading as cop really fucked town over.

I haven't had a single positive or fun experience with you in any game, so I don't mind the blacklist.

[Shoshin]

You should consider the fact that, despite YOU having solved the game early on, you did a VERY poor job at convincing the rest of the town.
Also lying and shading as cop really fucked town over.

I got Egix/Titus lynched & set town up to win. But sure, I fucked town over. By faking a guilty on scum.

[Creature]

lol I'm thinking this game was mod abandoned anyway

[Creature]

lol I'm thinking this game was mod abandoned anyway

[Creature]

Anyway, I wasn't gonna continue to play a game nobody else is playing, hence why I just voted game abandonement.

[RadiantCowbells]

The game was mod abandoned on D2

When I called for the D2 abandon we rly should have abandoned

I have no idea why we didn't with NSG and Maria flaking, no one else really doing much, Fumukis impending departure, etc.

[RadiantCowbells]

When the mod doesn't care the players don't care.

[popsofctown]

You're probably right here

[Titus]

Why do you assume I need mentoring?

Ouch. It's not about you needing mentoring. I've made many of the same social faux paus you're making and was trying to be nice.

I'll just see myself out.

[Fumuki]

I don't really get Wizzerd lynch, that didn't make sense to me at all.

he was annoying me

RC was clearly unlynchable in a flaking playerlist in day 1 and instead of doing something else or supporting my idea of a cop check on RC in day 1, he kept disrupting the game

Like, you won't lynch some players day 1 if more than half of the playerlist isn't playing

He could have agreed with me on a RC cop and we would have gone elsewhere, but instead he kept disrupting our night actions and etc

I thought his chances of being scum were above random and that even if he was town he would be better dead

I don't want to brag but I would have eventually voted pop/RC by the final day there because I was very confident that NSG was never scum here, but I mean, that's that. It wasn't really a "i gotcha RC", it would be PoE.

I don't buy the "RC can't be read and everyone trying to lynch him is just doing it because he is RC", (and that annoys me) but I also don't think that you can have that much confidence in RC being scum for doing his tunnel quirk that he clearly has done in some town games, in a flipless day 1.

[Fumuki]

by the way this setup is kind of townsided and without GiF nightkilled I would probably lose in LyLo if it was up to me

[popsofctown]

This setup is ridiculously townsided