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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:39 pm
by dsjstr
It almost felt like Dats/Bugs were playing as masons but there are no masons...

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 1:49 pm
by Micc
In post 3267, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:@Micc - if you included a vanilla townie from a reverse nightless game into this game - would the vanilla townie retain the original win condition from 903 where they win if the mafia control 50% of the town or would it be changed to a normal vanilla townie role?

Specifically the VT in this post:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=81405
They would have the Town win condition for this game as it is shown in the sample Role PM.


Votecount 2.07
PookeyTheMagicalBear (1) -
Datisi
dsjstr (1) -
Raven Branwen
Datisi (1) -
dsjstr

Not Voting (4) -
Something_Smart, PookyTheMagicalBear, the worst, skitter30

With 7 players alive it takes 4 votes to eliminate.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2020-08-20 06:50:00).

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:19 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
cool thanks

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:23 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
@Datisi

Have you ever been super confident that a player is scum and you super hard push for their exec but they turn out to be town? Would like a game link to read what that looks like from Town-Datisi thanks

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:14 pm
by dsjstr
In post 3278, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:@Datisi

Have you ever been super confident that a player is scum and you super hard push for their exec but they turn out to be town? Would like a game link to read what that looks like from Town-Datisi thanks
I can tell you for a fact that in the second game of hectic's ultimate conspiracy he knew that me/clidd were the team. That game started at 158 of the thread.

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:15 pm
by dsjstr
Not sure how to get the link since it is locked :/

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:27 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
just copy paste the URL?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:29 pm
by dsjstr

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:31 pm
by dsjstr
ooo actually there is a neighborhood as well

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=82420

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:31 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
that setup is not really what I'm looking for - I was thinking more of a normalish setup like this one.

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:47 pm
by Raven Branwen
In post 3255, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'm struggling with whether Datisi's vehement insistence that I'm scum is town or scum AI because it's strange coming from either side -

Scum should know that I will flip green so it's weird to push that hard on me - however his complete lack of doubt is strange coming from a town uninformed POV - so I can see him doing this as a townie being driven by coalition -

if Datisi is town that would mean D1 wagon on me of Datisi/Aldus/Miccro Mask was all townies -
I remember SS/Raven jumping on the wagon at various points
and almost eliminating me and both players are very solid as read town across the entire town - for this meta to make sense it would mean the scum were sitting on the sidelines laughing as I got run up and were hoping the town would just hang me without them getting involved.
I don’t think I ever voted you, bugs was already voting you when I repped in. You can check all of the D1 VCs but I’m pretty sure I’m not wrong about that.

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:50 pm
by Raven Branwen
In post 3259, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:koba and bugspray both voted me during that time frame but koba unvoted before bugspray hammered afair
???

No one was hammered before I repped in, are you referring to some different game? *confuzzled*

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:51 pm
by Raven Branwen
In post 3260, Datisi wrote:oh right, that happened didn't it? bugspray almost lolhammering pooky?

10 mafiascum bucks on that not being s/s...
Oh, nm, I stand corrected. How much of the early game didn’t I read?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 6:56 pm
by Raven Branwen
In post 3267, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3005, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3003, Raven Branwen wrote:rooroo in 903.
VT
I've been reading everyone's role and setups and rooroo in 903 was a vanilla townie but the vanilla townie in that game won if the mafia controlled 50% of the town.

@Micc - if you included a vanilla townie from a reverse nightless game into this game - would the vanilla townie retain the original win condition from 903 where they win if the mafia control 50% of the town or would it be changed to a normal vanilla townie role?

Specifically the VT in this post:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=81405
The game was
Reverse
Jester Nightless, rooroo was still vt in that despite the different wincon. Gamma a jester for example won by NOT getting executed and leaving the game and scum had to all die. You really should read that game, it was a real nailbiter the day right before LYLO.

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:09 pm
by Raven Branwen
In post 3280, dsjstr wrote:Not sure how to get the link since it is locked :/
In post 3281, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:just copy paste the URL?
You need to press PM and can direct quote the post. You’re welcome. :)

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:12 pm
by Raven Branwen
In post 3275, dsjstr wrote:It almost felt like Dats/Bugs were playing as masons but there are no masons...
I would really love to hear more, please elaborate. :lol:

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:31 pm
by Raven Branwen
In post 3290, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3275, dsjstr wrote:It almost felt like Dats/Bugs were playing as masons but there are no masons...
I would really love to hear more, please elaborate. :lol:
Oh wait, so you don’t think ME and Dats were playing like masons, so why haven’t you revised your me/Dats theory then? And you also suddenly dropped your too many PRs theory as well. Did you ever explain your reasoning for either?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:50 pm
by Datisi
oh look dsjstr just scumclaimed, that's beautiful. so pooky/dsjstr realized they're running out of executes and decided to try to get me hanged? that's cute. that's real fucking cute.

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:54 pm
by Datisi
In post 3201, dsjstr wrote:TOWN
Skitter
tw
ss/koba

NULL
Dats
Raven

MAFIA
Pooky
In post 3274, dsjstr wrote:I know that TW didn't protect the person that people thought was an obvious NK and that pooky lied about their role but I still think Raven/Dats are possible as a team, it makes sense to me.

VOTE: Datisi
In post 3275, dsjstr wrote:It almost felt like Dats/Bugs were playing as masons but there are no masons...
yeah, this is a progression that makes sense. this is not scum panicking at all.

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:55 pm
by Datisi
In post 3278, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:@Datisi

Have you ever been super confident that a player is scum and you super hard push for their exec but they turn out to be town? Would like a game link to read what that looks like from Town-Datisi thanks
i don't do that unless i'm super confident in my reads, which rarely happens. i cam show you a game of me absolutely mad tunneling a scum. not sure if i have a game of town!me mad tunnelling a townie.

but would it ever change your mind anyway

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:58 pm
by Datisi
look at pooky posturing to vote raven and/or me

look at dsjstr suddenly deciding even tho he was sure pooky was scum apparently it's me/raven

i don't know why y'all are acting like this game isn't solving itself

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:24 pm
by Datisi
btw yeah, i am aware the post i quoted is not the original post, this was
In post 318, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'm perfectly fine with being evicted D1 to make you look bad D2.
i just found it interesting how this post was made, then after claiming Super Cool PR this post was apparently made in order to make scum think he's a VT so they wouldn't kill him and he could use his Cool PR. but apparently
the post claiming that
was made to make him nightkill bait. okay.

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:02 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 3294, Datisi wrote:
In post 3278, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:@Datisi

Have you ever been super confident that a player is scum and you super hard push for their exec but they turn out to be town? Would like a game link to read what that looks like from Town-Datisi thanks
i don't do that unless i'm super confident in my reads, which rarely happens. i cam show you a game of me absolutely mad tunneling a scum. not sure if i have a game of town!me mad tunnelling a townie.

but would it ever change your mind anyway
Well I am really having a hard time with how tunnelled you are on me and I would like some precedent for you doing it as town.

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:03 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 3294, Datisi wrote:i don't do that unless i'm super confident in my reads, which rarely happens.
well you've already admitted your read on me this game is due to coalition which is what I suspected in the beginning to begin with.

Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:05 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 3296, Datisi wrote:btw yeah, i am aware the post i quoted is not the original post, this was
In post 318, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'm perfectly fine with being evicted D1 to make you look bad D2.
i just found it interesting how this post was made, then after claiming Super Cool PR this post was apparently made in order to make scum think he's a VT so they wouldn't kill him and he could use his Cool PR. but apparently
the post claiming that
was made to make him nightkill bait. okay.
yea that post was just me being angry at you for being so tunnelled - I made up the explanation afterwards to bait a NK.