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Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:26 am
by Hectic
Toogeloo
is the
scroll bearer!


They now have 2 days to pick a player they'd like to pass the scroll to, using a VOTE:

I'll allow placeholder votes using the HURT: tags in the event the player is afraid they'll forget to pass it on. The person it's passed to will simply default to the placeholder they've put down earlier.
If no placeholder vote was used, I'll pick the last living/non-cursed player the scroll bearer has voted in the game to receive the scroll.
If the above is not applicable, I'll allow mafia to pick.

Timer: (expired on 2020-10-29 17:26:39)

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:57 am
by MUSHSHAGANA
I went to sleep feeling dread: the wagon would stall, it would fragment, momentum would be killed, no one would be able to jump-start it again and we'd lose control of the initial scroll trajectory and probably lose an obvtown.

I woke up to this. Toog's the scrollbearer and is running a campaign of /menace/. I love this. I feel hope for town.

I also am getting SO MANY GOOD AI POSTS out of the Toog-stomp. Keep it up. This is brilliant. It sucks we can't get two scum hits this game day, but this is probably the best possible outcome of that. Hell, it even got Lapsa to actually post. Just shitpost, but there's still posting there.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:09 am
by Toogeloo
I am now scroll bearer. There is no excuse. Give me your 5 ranked names if you haven't done so.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:15 am
by Theta Alpine
i do not think that is a good idea and i am willing to take the scroll because of it

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:26 am
by Noraa
do not think what is a good idea?

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:29 am
by Theta Alpine
the names of people you would give a scroll to

that lets scum semi-control two kills

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:32 am
by Toogeloo
Scum control nothing. I alone control the scroll.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:34 am
by Toogeloo
What do you possibly think scum can gleam from a list of names people want as scroll bearers that they can't glean from reading the thread and people's reads?

It seems more to me you refuse to commit reads so you can't be held accountable later.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:35 am
by Toogeloo
glean*

stupid phone posting.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:41 am
by Noraa
Murder also thinks its dumb but I can't remember why

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:43 am
by MUSHSHAGANA
I'm going to follow Toog on this one. What do you have to hide, Theta? Why not post your scumreads? Hell, I made /cases/ for mine. You know, because I'd hope to see those slots get eliminated anyway. As town /should/ here. Considering that /eliminating scum is how town wins./ And considering that in this setup, like most mafia setups, /town can't hit scum without convincing each other who scum is./ Which means /town should never hide their reads unless they have a plan around it/. You ain't gambiting here, you have no control and no say in how the game plays out currently, Toog rules this roost. So post your reads or claim scum and go.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:45 am
by MUSHSHAGANA
What is /dumb/ is saying "scrollbearer MUST FOLLOW TOWN." That leashes the scroll and lets scum influence the trajectory from the outside, without becoming targets themselves necessarily.

Toog is their own person here, and wants the information. Toog has promised nothing and offers nothing in exchange. The scroll isn't being leashed, information is just being shared. Best case scenario.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:48 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
theta isnt even trying to hide his scuminess lol

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:51 am
by Toogeloo
PookyTheMagicalBear
Noraa
Taylor
Unowen
Theta Alpine
Vaxkiller


Tayl0r Swift
pooky
unowen
bell
noraa
shelly


Gloria Cleary
Empty


shellyc
Noraa
UNOwen
Bell
Lapsa
Vaxkiller


Hopkirk
Empty


Theta Alpine
Empty


Bell
Taylor
Zdenek
Lapsa.
Flea
VaxKiller


Zdenek
Empty


Titus
Empty


MURDERCAT
Empty


UNOwen
shellyc
Lapsa
Hopkirk
Pooky
Zdenek


MUSHSHAGANA
Hopkirk
Pooky
Shellyc
Zdenek
Lapsa


Flea The Magician
Empty


Adorable
Empty


Lady Lambdadelta
Empty


Noraa
Fidget
Shellyc
Titus
Pooky
Lapsa


Lapsa
shellyc
UNOwen
Hopkirk
Titus
Zdenek


Vaxkiller
bell
pooky
shellyc
unowen
tswift


Fidget
Empty

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:53 am
by Theta Alpine
her

and you are absolutely right in that i am not even trying to hide my scuminess
because i cannot
even as town i cannot hide my scuminess

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:54 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
i am sorry for misgendering you - my apologies.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:03 pm
by Hopkirk
Unown
Fidget
Vax
Flea
Bell

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:05 pm
by MURDERCAT
In post 3278, Theta Alpine wrote:i do not think that is a good idea and i am willing to take the scroll because of it

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:31 pm
by Fidget
I am not sure why Theta/Murder don't want to give reads. If scum chooses to kill me or not kill me for something I have said, I trust that will be brought to light down the line.

I'm going to cheat somewhat because I don't have solid scumreads out of the pool of 10ish people I would consider passing the scroll, and I might not have time to find those preferences.

Don't give it to Lady, Murder, Bell, Hopkirk, Pooky or Mush. I slightly lean against throwing it at Theta but could be wrong. Hopkirk I have some capacity to be wrong on because I have not analyzed him deeply, but I'll reevaluate later.

If I had the scroll right now and I had to hit scum to win, I'd throw it at shelly. If I had the scroll and I just wanted to get the most information out of a flip as possible, I'd throw it at Noraa or Tayl0r. If all three of these players became scroll-immune, I would throw it at.... likely Lapsa or Adorable.

Zdenek/Vax/Titus/UNOwen/Gloria all have capacity to be scum but I do not have enough of an opinion on them yet.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:33 pm
by Fidget
In post 3286, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:What is /dumb/ is saying "scrollbearer MUST FOLLOW TOWN." That leashes the scroll and lets scum influence the trajectory from the outside, without becoming targets themselves necessarily.

Toog is their own person here, and wants the information. Toog has promised nothing and offers nothing in exchange. The scroll isn't being leashed, information is just being shared. Best case scenario.
I am inclined to agree, and I do not think this benefits scum sharing who we are thinking about throwing the scroll to. It's all a WIFOM game, we can share or not share. If we share, scum has the opportunity to target those who scumread them, but it's all a WIFOM game. I prefer playing on the side of "share our thoughts and see what happens" over "everyone close ourselves off until the point we receive the scroll".

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:34 pm
by Fidget
shellyc
Tayl0r
Noraa
Lapsa
Adorable

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:45 pm
by Lapsa
In post 3273, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 3246, Titus wrote:Noraa
Pooky
Adorable
Lapsa
Theta

Subject to change. Not ranked.
Could you please rank them.
Pick number three my lord!

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:47 pm
by Lapsa
In post 3280, Theta Alpine wrote:the names of people you would give a scroll to

that lets scum semi-control two kills
It's as if you can pass it only once.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:48 pm
by MUSHSHAGANA
I really don't get how sharing our Day 1 garbo reads in an ordered list like you do in every other game because that's how you prioritize pushes and build a townbloc could be construed as dangerous to town when they're damn near guaranteed to change at least a little after flips and damn near guaranteed to be wrong right now why the hell are MURDERCAT and Theta doing this nothing comes out of keeping your reads secret except madness and horror and death /stop your foolish lies/ **WHEEZE**.

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:50 pm
by MUSHSHAGANA
What's especially funny about this is MURDERCAT has been pushing a 5 player game solve and now won't add another name to the list (since Toog's off the board effectively) to just move things along. Theta has posted reads lists at least once. They literally are just avoiding THE COMMITMENT. It's not even in character with their earlier goddamned play.