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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:34 am
by Bell
Your plan coming out of this isn't to eliminate mafia, it's to eliminate me.
Have you even given any reads today.

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:45 am
by Guillotina
In post 3275, Bell wrote:Your plan coming out of this isn't to eliminate mafia, it's to eliminate me.
Have you even given any reads today.
OMG! YOU ARE ALREADY ELIMINATED! You got a goddamn virus which as you claimed will kill you at the end of the day no?
UNLESS OF COURSE YOU LIED ABOUT GETTING A VIRUS!


I will not give any reads until our situation resolves, i got a plan to prove that im town and that includes total secrecy about who my town reads are.

Come on bell! What are you scared off?

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:49 am
by Bell
I'm scared of being wrong for one.

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:50 am
by Bell
To confirm, Perfect Cell sent you a message saying your ability didn't work?

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:53 am
by Guillotina
In post 3081, Guillotina wrote:
In post 3079, Dunnstral wrote:How would you know you were roleblocked if that's your role?
Because the host told me i couldnt send my ability.

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:54 am
by Bell
And you sent it in the night phase?

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:57 am
by Bell
You received the message that you couldn't send your ability at the end of the night phase?

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:09 am
by Guillotina
In post 3280, Bell wrote:And you sent it in the night phase?
YEEEEES! LAST NIGHT! I sent it to Finral because he town read me and I town read him, our styles as town are similar but I didnt hint it in the thread in case scum picked up my crumb so they wouldn't kill him and I also thought you were gonna get NKed after claiming arena cop, which is odd because what scum don't kill a claimed cop? What if you are a town cop?

You not dying is weird cause scum always kill a cop there, specially because the other option was a doc that could escape an intended kill.
You getting a virus is weird, why give you a virus instead of just killing you?
You scum reading and pushing for my elimination is weird if you are town cause my mistake was assuming that i was roleblocked and you pushed me anyways.

This is why you and I gotta be resolved a d this is why you gotta get the chop IF YOU GOT A VIRUS!

Now get in here.

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:10 am
by Guillotina
In post 3282, Guillotina wrote:
In post 3280, Bell wrote:And you sent it in the night phase?
YEEEEES! LAST NIGHT! I sent it to Finral because he town read me and I town read him, our styles as town are similar but I didnt hint it in the thread in case scum picked up my crumb so they wouldn't kill him and I also thought you were gonna get NKed after claiming arena cop, which is odd because what scum don't kill a claimed cop?
What if you are NOT a town cop?


You not dying is weird cause scum always kill a cop there, specially because the other option was a doc that could escape an intended kill.
You getting a virus is weird, why give you a virus instead of just killing you?
You scum reading and pushing for my elimination is weird if you are town cause my mistake was assuming that i was roleblocked and you pushed me anyways.

This is why you and I gotta be resolved a d this is why you gotta get the chop IF YOU GOT A VIRUS!

Now get in here.
Correction

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:13 am
by Guillotina
In post 3281, Bell wrote:You received the message that you couldn't send your ability at the end of the night phase?
Yes, right before this day started as a matter of fact, which makes sense because otherwise i would have assumed that i didnt have that item to send anymore.

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:23 am
by Bell
I fundamentally disagree with the mindset that people should eliminate obvious town because they're "dead anyway"
than eliminating mafia which is an actual win condition.
It demonstrates a total lack of confidence in yourself and worse, it's playing not to lose, rather than to win.

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:27 am
by Bell
Your argument that it makes less sense for me to die immediately over Finral is a misconception of my claim which the scum team would not be unaware of.

I hid my second ability. But I essentially claimed I was a VT after my one-shot ability. I could afford to be killed later, as I was less of an immediate pain and influence on the game state compared to flavorleaf.
I was, in fact killed, so it's not like they didn't suspect me.

The paranoia here is actually fair. Or how it was written makes sense to me, but your own worries are addressed by the fact I was poisoned.

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:14 am
by Guillotina
In post 3286, Bell wrote:Your argument that it makes less sense for me to die immediately over Finral is a misconception of my claim which the scum team would not be unaware of.

I hid my second ability. But I essentially claimed I was a VT after my one-shot ability. I could afford to be killed later, as I was less of an immediate pain and influence on the game state compared to flavorleaf.
I was, in fact killed, so it's not like they didn't suspect me.

The paranoia here is actually fair. Or how it was written makes sense to me, but your own worries are addressed by the fact I was poisoned.
You claimed you were vanillaized after the arena cop check? I missed that. I still would have night killed you if I was scum just to make sure and if my scum teammates were advising against it I would have scolded the crap out of them. What guarantees them that you did not lie about not having arena checks anymore? That is suboptimal play! A total display of overconfidence, arrogance even. If this is true the scum team are a bunch of arrogant NOOOBS which is GREAT for us! or you are a scum buddy and you were actually poisoned by town.

Bonus option: They feared Finral more than the claimed cop and if so, why?

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:33 pm
by Bell
I don't really think town would poison scum with a heart virus.

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:33 pm
by Bell
And I don't think that's a serious suggestion on your part.
Especially because everybody except dunnstrall and Cookie has either faked or is genuinely curious about the heart virus thing.

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:35 pm
by Bell
I find Superbowl's reaction to the heart virus thing to unlikely to come from scum btw.

Just because I don't think he would, as scum, fake being worried that I was going to die IRL to myocarditis.
That would be weird and a little cheap.

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:42 pm
by Bell
I want it to be clear I did not claim cop.
I claimed some sort of variant of a motion detector/Tracker that didn't tell me who someone visited merely that they weren't where they would be if they were vanilla or had no night action.
I also claimed 1 shot neighborhood detect that only worked in the arena phase.

Which is honestly all you need to know to know that I didn't lie about my claim because lol at me coming up with a nuanced role like that,
(yes, yes, maybe it was a really good provided fake claim) but it was a ...rather nuanced configuration that only really works the way it does because there was a 3p.

I am worried that there was no neighborizor/neighborhood beyond the inventor claim from guillotina tho. I'm not sure how much supplied wifom is too much wifom.

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:49 pm
by Bell
In post 3290, Bell wrote:I find Superbowl's reaction to the heart virus thing to unlikely to come from scum btw.

Just because I don't think he would, as scum, fake being worried that I was going to die IRL to myocarditis.
That would be weird and a little cheap.
I want feedback on if this makes sense btw.
I am dying tonight after all, barring miraculous intervention from a parallel worlds traveler (opps) or some such.

So I want to have at least 2 correct reads before I die for you guys to go off of.

I know Flea is probably town and I think superbowl is.

So that is 2, but Flea doesn't really count because I was on the eliminate flea wagon the whole game.

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:12 pm
by Guillotina
In post 3291, Bell wrote:I want it to be clear I did not claim cop.
I claimed some sort of variant of a motion detector/Tracker that didn't tell me who someone visited merely that they weren't where they would be if they were vanilla or had no night action.
I also claimed 1 shot neighborhood detect that only worked in the arena phase.

Which is honestly all you need to know to know that I didn't lie about my claim because lol at me coming up with a nuanced role like that,
(yes, yes, maybe it was a really good provided fake claim) but it was a ...rather nuanced configuration that only really works the way it does because there was a 3p.

I am worried that there was no neighborizor/neighborhood beyond the inventor claim from guillotina tho. I'm not sure how much supplied wifom is too much wifom.
When I said that you claimed cop, I meant the Arena check thingy you did on Flea/Oil

I got a neighborizer item to give and might still give if I make it to the night, or the other one.

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:26 pm
by Bell
I'm aware.

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:40 pm
by MathBlade
In post 3269, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3265, Bell wrote:I'm fine with going into the arena with Guilotina.

Though there could be a scum ability that could put us at a disadvantage.
I think there's a greater chance of us being at a disadvantage if we send town who will be alive tomorrow

That's my reasoning
This reasoning is suspicious unless you think someone would vote outside of G. Do you really think that happens? In what world does someone vote for someone over G?

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:42 pm
by MathBlade
VOTE: Bell

Consider my spiritual vote on Kookie. I don’t scumread Bell I just wanna get to Arena since Kookie isn’t posting anything.

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:28 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 3295, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3269, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3265, Bell wrote:I'm fine with going into the arena with Guilotina.

Though there could be a scum ability that could put us at a disadvantage.
I think there's a greater chance of us being at a disadvantage if we send town who will be alive tomorrow

That's my reasoning
This reasoning is suspicious unless you think someone would vote outside of G. Do you really think that happens? In what world does someone vote for someone over G?
That's not my reasoning. I'm talking about scum powers

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:30 pm
by MathBlade
What kind of scum powers are you even positing?

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:36 pm
by Bell
Actually.

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