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In post 3255, Prism wrote:BM, you've been quite transparent and open in previous days about trying to win an artifact, even when it was very unlikely with momentum was swinging towards others and the reads on you relatively hipfire tonal townleans.

You seem to have come into today thinking your town position should be relatively unassailable in 3238

Why abstain over voting for yourself or pushing to receive it?

good question! Answer: Given how the last 2 days panned out, I draw the same conclusion presumably others have - there's no point pushing for the artefact vote. There's 0 chance I get the artefact, and by pushing for it I'd just waste energy and probably have scum use it as an easy hook to get me elimmed. So I'm abstaining as I don't have a strong townread on anyone, my vote doesn't matter at all and I'd like to keep my clean voting record.

I don't know about my town position being unassailable. I'm capable of being mis-elimmed for no reason at the drop of a hat in these blasted large themes. But elimming me would, in my view, be a strategically poor move given my voting record, and in spite of my lack of activity.

In post 3274, Prism wrote:Battle Mage, can you answer this please?

In post 3255, Prism wrote:BM, you've been quite transparent and open in previous days about trying to win an artifact, even when it was very unlikely with momentum was swinging towards others and the reads on you relatively hipfire tonal townleans.

You seem to have come into today thinking your town position should be relatively unassailable in 3238

Why abstain over voting for yourself or pushing to receive it?

I was answering when you posted this. I took equal care and attention with my response as you did with your question.

I'll make a mental note to relook at GreyIce in my VCA. Both Tammy and Bell had an issue with him and I think (although memory could be wrong) Prism did too.

In post 3269, Tammy wrote:I don't know what to do about the information that I have. I'm not sure if it is alignment relevant at the moment unless one of the people I have information on lie about it. But that has to come up independently.

It might be worth considering having people who have used artifacts claim. My impression seems to be that artifacts are mostly one-shot, though I'd have to ask as this is slightly ambiguous for the Trident. This means there's little to fear about outing powers for the coming nights since we're working just with the past. I think Day 4 might be a good time, but also that depends on you still being alive.

Definitely should not be claiming this stuff right now but worth thinking on.

In post 3267, MathBlade wrote:

In post 3266, Titus wrote:

In post 3265, MathBlade wrote:He just usually isn’t so lurky/hyperfocused as town.

Bell has the fourth most posts and posted 14 hours ago. He's not lurky.

He is though. He’s not memorable.

All he does is push me then leave.

He does not comment on anything going on.

Lurking isn’t defined by post count.

Active lurking is still lurking.

town bell has a tendency to tunnel

In post 3260, MathBlade wrote:

In post 3257, SirCakez wrote:Oh yeah! Spiffeh had no artifacts

And why did you check Spiffeh?

This should not be pulling teeth dude.

In post 3261, SirCakez wrote:Because I've been suspicious of him all game? It's not rocket science

It is slightly odd that Cakez would be so stand-offish about revealing the night action and justification. Then again, it's a tough roleclaim to fake, in the long run, if you don't have it. Although could it, or a mechanically equivalent modification, be a scum role? Maybe.

One for the mech nerds in the peanut gallery

In post 3269, Tammy wrote: I don't know what to do about the information that I have. I'm not sure if it is alignment relevant at the moment unless one of the people I have information on lie about it. But that has to come up independently.

So, bleh. I'll be back later.

this kind of bumbling vibes town with me. Ok Tammy, you have my notional artefact vote.

VOTE: Tammy

also Tammy, can I just check you aren't claiming same exact role as Cakez? because if you are, that would be worth sharing.

Thanks Battle Mage, I'll chew on that.

I think the Bell discussion is kind of a "no u" circus rather than something likely to result in persuasion but I'm not really contributing much better given that I don't want to reread atm. I really just gave Bell as a potential alternative. This isn't the government, there is no veto whether that's from me or from MathBlade, and right now it looks like giving it to me is universal consensus.

In post 1, penguin_alien wrote:Before distribution, the default state of information on all Artifacts is flavor name only. Upon receipt, the recipient(s) will be told its Power and its Negative Effect.

We debated this and it's literally in the ruleset that scum don't get descriptions of the artifacts lmfao

It’s almost certainly a scum power so scum took the hit on Mastina.

And it’s possible scum Titus doesn’t want us looking at Scum Cakez.

Just because someone does or doesn’t have an artifact isn’t alignment indicative if you townread Prism.

Scum may be artifact less or town might have one.

SirCakez isn’t thinking if he is town but more likely he is scum.

So afternoon opens I think we vote Cakez here barring a damn good reason.

In post 3281, Battle Mage wrote: Ok Tammy, you have my notional artefact vote.

VOTE: Tammy

In post 3282, Prism wrote:Thanks Battle Mage, I'll chew on that.
right now it looks like giving it to me is universal consensus.

maximum salt

In post 3283, MathBlade wrote:It’s almost certainly a scum power so scum took the hit on Mastina.

And it’s possible scum Titus doesn’t want us looking at Scum Cakez.

Just because someone does or doesn’t have an artifact isn’t alignment indicative if you townread Prism.

Scum may be artifact less or town might have one.

SirCakez isn’t thinking if he is town but more likely he is scum.

So afternoon opens I think we vote Cakez here barring a damn good reason.

i think scum are more likely to have more artifacts.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12522750

^^

@Pooky — Town Bell, start the ISO from here
Commonly and frequently mentions multiple slots even while tunneling.
He hasn’t here.
I don’t see how this is town bell.
It could be, but it’s a major deviation.

That post was made before I saw your vote lmao but it was funny, figured I could just leave it. I don't think Tammy is a good pick because it consolidates investigative+artifact and just forces a nightkill.

That said the only person I really want to hear from at this point is bork and I don't think there's much left on the artifact front so
VOTE: Prism

That's Artifact-1, I'm fine with someone hammering it.

In post 3287, Prism wrote:That post was made before I saw your vote lmao but it was funny, figured I could just leave it. I don't think Tammy is a good pick because it consolidates investigative+artifact and just forces a nightkill.

That said the only person I really want to hear from at this point is bork and I don't think there's much left on the artifact front so
VOTE: Prism

That's Artifact-1, I'm fine with someone hammering it.

Math firing indiscriminately at everyone is growing on me. screw it, i love a hammer.

VOTE: Prism

and now

Final Morning 3 Vote Count

Morning 3 will end in (expired on 2021-03-17 23:54:27)

With 12 players alive, it takes 7 votes to deliver to a player.



Not voting (5): borkjerfkin, Spiffeh, GreyICE, Dunnstral, Bell

Mod notes:
4/60 pages used

Afternoon Vote Count 3.00

Afternoon 2 will end in (expired on 2021-03-24 18:17:50)

With 12 players alive, it takes 7 votes to Bronze

Not voting (12): Tammy, borkjerfkin, SirCakez, Bell, Titus, Spiffeh, GreyICE, PookyTheMagicalBear, MathBlade, Prism, Dunnstral, Battle Mage

Mod notes:
4/70 pages used

@Spiffeh, use it on Bork or MB or it's a scum claim.

Also, I don't know exactly what it does, but I have a guess.

Everybody else ignore this ty, ty.

VOTE: SirCakez

Much as I want Titus elimmed this is better.

Bell nothing happened to me if that helps you *shrug* *goes back to ignoring that message at the top doesn’t exist but is still sketched out and scumreading Bell*

In post 3286, MathBlade wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12522750

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@Pooky — Town Bell, start the ISO from here
Commonly and frequently mentions multiple slots even while tunneling.
He hasn’t here.
I don’t see how this is town bell.
It could be, but it’s a major deviation.

Maybe you should look at some of my scum games instead of linking to a single town game of mine and comparing it. You're not really listening to Pooky if you aren't actually going to look to see what he's talking about. You're just playing lip service or going for the appearance of listening.

@BM: I need more from you. I understand you aren't feelin' it but but this isn't enough to stop a spiralling read.

In post 3296, Bell wrote:

In post 3286, MathBlade wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12522750

^^

@Pooky — Town Bell, start the ISO from here
Commonly and frequently mentions multiple slots even while tunneling.
He hasn’t here.
I don’t see how this is town bell.
It could be, but it’s a major deviation.

Maybe you should look at some of my scum games instead of linking to a single town game of mine and comparing it. You're not really listening to Pooky if you aren't actually going to look to see what he's talking about. You're just playing lip service or going for the appearance of listening.

@BM: I need more from you. I understand you aren't feelin' it but but this isn't enough to stop a spiralling read.

Maybe you should be following your town meta if you’re town.

I don’t have time to read all your scum games and see which do and don’t apply.

I just know that this isn’t your recent town meta and the only options are town or scum.

So something is off.

Seriously are you going to ever like state reads on anyone else Bell?

Do that read wall from Boonskiies?

Anything remotely Townie?