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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:49 am
by jjh927
NM could be a loyal combined doctor checker

Scum might conceivably have shot someone else

Something I haven't considered might have happened (likely option when you consider that nom was killed N1)

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:50 am
by jjh927
Titus, are you accounting for the wagons as they built rather than just the end result? Almost everyone in the game was on the NK15 wagon at some point

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:52 am
by cyrus62
In post 3274, Titus wrote:
In post 3272, cyrus62 wrote:my poe is titus jjh and moon.
Why is House not part of your PoE when he's been protecting me so hard?
Who should not mafia target tonight provided we lynch town and he is a weak hider?
house action on night one shows me he hoped off the wagon just as nsg askd some one to. you dont have that excuse.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:54 am
by jjh927
Cyrus, what is your read on Mia and why

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:55 am
by Titus
In post 3275, jjh927 wrote:NM could be a loyal combined doctor checker

Scum might conceivably have shot someone else

Something I haven't considered might have happened (likely option when you consider that nom was killed N1)
Loyal combined doctor cop? Something like that. NM could be roleblocked and thus the stump wouldn't be confident on autowin. Second, that requires scum to have directly shot at mastina. mastina has done zilch and is afk probably partially for personal reasons even if she's scum. There's no way scum target mastina for a nightkill here.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:56 am
by Titus
In post 3276, jjh927 wrote:Titus, are you accounting for the wagons as they built rather than just the end result? Almost everyone in the game was on the NK15 wagon at some point
Yes. House and Cyrus were both off the wagon at the end, never on at the same time either.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:56 am
by Titus
In post 3280, Titus wrote:
In post 3276, jjh927 wrote:Titus, are you accounting for the wagons as they built rather than just the end result? Almost everyone in the game was on the NK15 wagon at some point
Yes. House and Cyrus were both off the wagon at the end, never on at the same time either.
According to the VCs anyway, they did both unvote at the same time in thread.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:57 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3277, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 3274, Titus wrote:
In post 3272, cyrus62 wrote:my poe is titus jjh and moon.
Why is House not part of your PoE when he's been protecting me so hard?
Who should not mafia target tonight provided we lynch town and he is a weak hider?
house action on night one shows me he hoped off the wagon just as nsg askd some one to. you dont have that excuse.
What the fuck is this wording???

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:58 am
by jjh927
Scum would target Mastina for a nightkill because Not Mafia said he would target her and scum had all the same reason you have right now to suspect he is a weak hider

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:58 am
by jjh927
Weak hider combined doctor would be memes actually

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:00 pm
by Titus
In post 3283, jjh927 wrote:Scum would target Mastina for a nightkill because Not Mafia said he would target her and scum had all the same reason you have right now to suspect he is a weak hider

The evidence for not mafia being a weak hider came only after the failed night kill. Not mafia being a cop or some other weak role maybe but hider specifically wouldn't happen until the nightkill failed.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:01 pm
by cyrus62
In post 3278, jjh927 wrote:Cyrus, what is your read on Mia and why
i hate that slot i cant pin a read on it to save my life.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:01 pm
by jjh927
He was saying who he was targeting

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:02 pm
by Titus
In post 3287, jjh927 wrote:He was saying who he was targeting
Yes, but that foundation applies as much n1 as it did n2. If there was enough evidence to suspect notmafia of being a hider n2, it existed n1 and then the nom kill makes no sense. A gamma kill would have happened instead.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:03 pm
by jjh927
In post 3286, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 3278, jjh927 wrote:Cyrus, what is your read on Mia and why
i hate that slot i cant pin a read on it to save my life.
Shame

I was just thinking about how it's kinda strange you haven't had any substantial reads on anyone who wasn't elimable

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:04 pm
by jjh927
In post 3288, Titus wrote:
In post 3287, jjh927 wrote:He was saying who he was targeting
Yes, but that foundation applies as much n1 as it did n2. If there was enough evidence to suspect notmafia of being a hider n2, it existed n1 and then the nom kill makes no sense. A gamma kill would have happened instead.
The nom kill makes no sense regardless of not mafia's role

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:05 pm
by jjh927
Other than to frame Moongrass
In post 2056, nomnomnom wrote:In case I die, I'd like to highlight this post
In post 452, Moongrass wrote:Your entrance posts seem a little more proactive than what I thought would be normal for you NK15. That yawn in particular seemed like posting for the sake of posting. Am I wrong?
if NK does indeed flip scum then this post is likely coming from scum distancing early given the seemingly laser precise reasoning on some early game comment, and that comment also sticks out in the fact that
Moongrass does not have a game played with NK15 in her topic history
. So this is potentially some hard TMI right there.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:06 pm
by jjh927
Hey look at Cyrus' first post in day 2
In post 2086, cyrus62 wrote:so lets see who nonom was saying was scum.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:07 pm
by jjh927
Honestly, I think the nom kill can be explained entirely by Cyrus being noobscum

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:08 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3291, jjh927 wrote:Other than to frame Moongrass
In post 2056, nomnomnom wrote:In case I die, I'd like to highlight this post
In post 452, Moongrass wrote:Your entrance posts seem a little more proactive than what I thought would be normal for you NK15. That yawn in particular seemed like posting for the sake of posting. Am I wrong?
if NK does indeed flip scum then this post is likely coming from scum distancing early given the seemingly laser precise reasoning on some early game comment, and that comment also sticks out in the fact that
Moongrass does not have a game played with NK15 in her topic history
. So this is potentially some hard TMI right there.
Wait
IT’S BEEN CLEAR SINCE D1 MOON IS AN ALT. WHY ARE WE USING THE BOLDED AS EVIDENCE?????

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:08 pm
by jjh927
Never mind he follows up with this
In post 2092, cyrus62 wrote:seems like a frame up. who was pushing for moon the most?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:09 pm
by Titus
In post 3295, jjh927 wrote:Never mind he follows up with this
In post 2092, cyrus62 wrote:seems like a frame up. who was pushing for moon the most?
He checks the thread temperature before doing so though.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:10 pm
by Titus
In post 3294, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3291, jjh927 wrote:Other than to frame Moongrass
In post 2056, nomnomnom wrote:In case I die, I'd like to highlight this post
In post 452, Moongrass wrote:Your entrance posts seem a little more proactive than what I thought would be normal for you NK15. That yawn in particular seemed like posting for the sake of posting. Am I wrong?
if NK does indeed flip scum then this post is likely coming from scum distancing early given the seemingly laser precise reasoning on some early game comment, and that comment also sticks out in the fact that
Moongrass does not have a game played with NK15 in her topic history
. So this is potentially some hard TMI right there.
Wait
IT’S BEEN CLEAR SINCE D1 MOON IS AN ALT. WHY ARE WE USING THE BOLDED AS EVIDENCE?????
We're not using it for the truth of the matter asserted but for its reaction on the scumteam.

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:11 pm
by jjh927
In post 3296, Titus wrote:
In post 3295, jjh927 wrote:Never mind he follows up with this
In post 2092, cyrus62 wrote:seems like a frame up. who was pushing for moon the most?
He checks the thread temperature before doing so though.
And then puts Moon in his poe almost immediately anyway

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:12 pm
by jjh927
I'm just rereading the fake guilty from House on Cyrus and I feel it looks really bad for both parties