Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:07 am
I actually disagree with this premise, and think the opposite. Why do u think this?In post 3270, Sleepless Assassin wrote:Scum is much more likely to claim scum than town is
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I actually disagree with this premise, and think the opposite. Why do u think this?In post 3270, Sleepless Assassin wrote:Scum is much more likely to claim scum than town is
None, the two thoughts are completely unrelatedIn post 3272, VP Baltar wrote:How much of your belief in this is contingent on you believing I'm scum?In post 3266, Fun and Games wrote:I feel reasonably confident that enchant is a misflip, ehy is he your top choice?
How is claiming scum the same thing as self votingIn post 3274, VP Baltar wrote:You are incorrect.In post 3273, Fun and Games wrote:No, its not, and its some sort of fallacy to suggest it isIn post 3249, VP Baltar wrote:Can I ask why you claimed mafia? Isn't that kind of the same thing as self voting?
~ skitter
There are actual reasons for scum to give up. The only reason I can think of for town is a complete temper tantrum and ruining games because they didn't get their way. Enchant doesn't strike me as that kind of person and even if he did, one town player dying shouldn't be enough to trigger that response.In post 3275, Fun and Games wrote:I actually disagree with this premise, and think the opposite. Why do u think this?In post 3270, Sleepless Assassin wrote:Scum is much more likely to claim scum than town is
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Both are highly detrimental plays to town as a whole, and flail moves in general.In post 3277, Fun and Games wrote:How is claiming scum the same thing as self votingIn post 3274, VP Baltar wrote:You are incorrect.In post 3273, Fun and Games wrote:No, its not, and its some sort of fallacy to suggest it isIn post 3249, VP Baltar wrote:Can I ask why you claimed mafia? Isn't that kind of the same thing as self voting?
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Hi just gonna point out that this yet again anothet thing i didnt sayIn post 3282, VP Baltar wrote:You're being ridiculous to say scum would never take a flail maneuver to shake heat they are getting for their play.
It's analogous.In post 3273, Fun and Games wrote:No, its not, and its some sort of fallacy to suggest it is
Why?In post 3266, Fun and Games wrote:I feel reasonably confident that enchant is a misflip,
Ok so if scum-him is worried abt the negative consequences for such an act after witnessting yhe backlash gamma got ... why does he immediately followup by doing something that would garner said negative feedback (i.e. quickhammering gamma), and then only show remorse abt it midway through the next phaseIn post 3282, VP Baltar wrote:Both are highly detrimental plays to town as a whole, and flail moves in general.
For Enchant to SEE and EXPERIENCE the negative consequences of such actions by town through Gamma, and then to turn around and take similar action is grounds for suspicion.
I also dont think i've ever seen scum lolclaim scum like that eitherIn post 3283, Sleepless Assassin wrote:Sure but I don't think I've ever seen it before from town.
No, its more: selfing and claiming scum are different levels of 'bad' and detrimental to the game, and i think its bad to equate themIn post 3285, Bingle wrote:The fallacy you're thinking of (probably) is personal incredulity, which is, roughly: "I don't understand why that would happen, therefore it cannot happen."
Basically everything i'm saying on this pageIn post 3286, Bingle wrote:Why?In post 3266, Fun and Games wrote:I feel reasonably confident that enchant is a misflip,
Like, I understand but don't agree with your argument earlier, but you seem more confident. Is there a further reason or is it just the thing we discussed earlier?
I mean he's quickhammered twice now. While spite isnt quite the adjective i'd use, in my mind its p clear that he's the sort of player to lolclaim scumIn post 3287, Sleepless Assassin wrote:I meant think it's clear frustration was the reason. But if he did that as town that means there's a spitefulness on top of that that I just don't see.
The guy said himself he's scum. Why are we even arguing over it
I dont remember an instance of scum claiming scum in middle of a game, noIn post 3290, Sleepless Assassin wrote:You've never seen a scumclaim? I'm actually shocked if that's true.
You didn't read it then. It was in the post above.In post 3246, Andante wrote:Toog, you never answered why you're confirmed town
I disagree. It's risky, but there is a non-zero chance town is gun-shy after the gamma misyeet and is reluctant to flip someone engaging in openly scummy behavior.In post 3288, Fun and Games wrote:why even mimic gamma as scum when *gamma got voted out* for it, that seems like a playbook of things to *avoid* doing
I don't think he was trying to gain anything. Pretty sure he just wanted to be done with the gameIn post 3297, VP Baltar wrote:I disagree. It's risky, but there is a non-zero chance town is gun-shy after the gamma misyeet and is reluctant to flip someone engaging in openly scummy behavior.In post 3288, Fun and Games wrote:why even mimic gamma as scum when *gamma got voted out* for it, that seems like a playbook of things to *avoid* doing
I get where you are coming from that people can get frustrated and make stupid plays as town. Totally true. But what concerns me here is Enchant seeing that directly and the negative effects, then doing something similar. It's a good play of reverse psychology as scum. I think you should consider that.