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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:34 pm
by Past Present Future
In post 3269, Toogeloo wrote: In post 3263, Enchant wrote:Town Loyal Neapolitan check:
1. Target not Town? No Result
2. Target VT? VT result.
3. Target Town PR? Not VT result.
Obvs if you sussing me then it makes sense but lol
This was my thought process as well, but there is a ton of pushback that PPF is town, so I feel out of the loop.
Because we obviously are. And I don’t understand why Roden of all people wouldn’t know that and Ircher as well but especially Roden, which is why I want to understand exactly wtf they were thinking.
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:35 pm
by Past Present Future
In post 3274, unwnd wrote:
Not true by the way, he was just coasting on the circumstances to make it look like he cared
He literally tried to stop that wagon.
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:36 pm
by furtiveglance
Put me down as a -actually nvmind.
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:37 pm
by T-Bone
In post 3269, Toogeloo wrote: In post 3263, Enchant wrote:Town Loyal Neapolitan check:
1. Target not Town? No Result
2. Target VT? VT result.
3. Target Town PR? Not VT result.
Obvs if you sussing me then it makes sense but lol
This was my thought process as well, but there is a ton of pushback that PPF is town, so I feel out of the loop.
Something something meta can't possibly wrong.
You do you and you'll probably feel saner.
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:38 pm
by furtiveglance
In post 3245, unwnd wrote:What about is it bizarre
Look at furtive's posts (this phase) and tell me if they are productive in any sort of way
I dislike when people say shit and then don't follow up, that's the most blunt way of putting it
Calling someone out for doing nothing does not count as doing something. In other words, jog on
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:42 pm
by furtiveglance
In post 3274, unwnd wrote:
Not true by the way, he was just coasting on the circumstances to make it look like he cared
This is slightly boiling my blood, as MathBlade implied this about me yesterday. It's basically playing badly then victim blaming, as me, the player with good reads (possibly) who opposes the vote on town and proposes a vote on (possible) scum, is blamed for "omg TMI" or "looking good on the flip" when you guys are the ones with really bad reads and votes. And then I get "Oh you should do more then, push harder" when I have such a clear poe and scumpool and I just get aired by the entire lobby.
It's a really alienating thing to do, and it's the sign of a pretty clapped gamestate in which scum can slate any good town player for "TMI".
Am I being unreasonable, like on mumsnet?
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:43 pm
by unwnd
That is not even close to what I implied
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:44 pm
by Past Present Future
In post 2997, Bunnyonce wrote:This is furtive townposting (in my humble opinion). If it is true that he played differently as third party in Datisi's Café, this also helps validate this read of mine / reassure me that it is still valid in multiball.
-Aisa
If anyone cares, two dead players - one confitown, the other > rand very likely town, hard disagree with you unwnd.
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:46 pm
by unwnd
People can be wrong
Hell, I can be wrong
What is telling to me is that with Bunny's death, a lot of people were
Yet it's not being discussed, It's not being considered
It's like it never happened
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:47 pm
by Past Present Future
In post 3278, T-Bone wrote: In post 3269, Toogeloo wrote: In post 3263, Enchant wrote:Town Loyal Neapolitan check:
1. Target not Town? No Result
2. Target VT? VT result.
3. Target Town PR? Not VT result.
Obvs if you sussing me then it makes sense but lol
This was my thought process as well, but there is a ton of pushback that PPF is town, so I feel out of the loop.
Something something meta can't possibly wrong.
You do you and you'll probably feel saner.
Do I need to requote my post from Doubles’ where I correctly tr Mastina based off of - you guessed it - meta?
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:47 pm
by unwnd
When events such as mislims are not practiced with a learning opportunity
It means scum can do whatever the fuck they want
That is where accountability matters
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:49 pm
by Scarfmanship
And please explain what accountability means. Because to me bunny was a ??? slot and I was ok with getting rid of a ??? slot because no wagons were picking up and the day was going to end.
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:52 pm
by Yume
In post 3285, unwnd wrote:When events such as mislims are not practiced with a learning opportunity
It means scum can do whatever the fuck they want
That is where accountability matters
Except that if it were mastina who was mislimmed, it magically wouldn't matter.
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:53 pm
by unwnd
It's not some secret ingredient that makes town better
I keep throwing that word out because I find this game agonizing to read. I find it that way because there is no process I can gather that informs decisions. This is probably in part of multiball, but if I have to state it the last multiball I played in we clean sweeped the scum and I got this stupid worthless badge underneath my name because of it.
We sweeped them because scum had very little wriggle room and they simply got out-towned. Not in a spam post way more like a town had a clear directive and motivation. Things lined up in a way that was organic. This is the most smoke and mirrors game I've played in quite some time. It's frustrating
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:54 pm
by unwnd
Like this day has just been shoulda coulda woulda like it's fucking D1 all over again
We killed Bunny and nobody is trying to think about what it means
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:56 pm
by furtiveglance
In post 3283, unwnd wrote:People can be wrong
Hell, I can be wrong
What is telling to me is that with Bunny's death, a lot of people were
Yet it's not being discussed, It's not being considered
It's like it never happened
So why aren't you getting on the umpteen people who voted them wrongly, instead of saying I was 'pretending to care'?
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:57 pm
by unwnd
In post 3290, furtiveglance wrote: In post 3283, unwnd wrote:People can be wrong
Hell, I can be wrong
What is telling to me is that with Bunny's death, a lot of people were
Yet it's not being discussed, It's not being considered
It's like it never happened
So why aren't you getting on the umpteen people who voted them wrongly, instead of saying I was 'pretending to care'?
I already elaborated that I think there's scum on the wagon and pointed to a few people
I can do more two things at once you know
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:57 pm
by Past Present Future
In post 3287, Yume wrote: In post 3285, unwnd wrote:When events such as mislims are not practiced with a learning opportunity
It means scum can do whatever the fuck they want
That is where accountability matters
Except that if it were mastina who was mislimmed, it magically wouldn't matter.
And given the post flip reveals, it’s hard to believe the wagon on her was all town.
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:58 pm
by Scarfmanship
In post 3289, unwnd wrote:Like this day has just been shoulda coulda woulda like it's fucking D1 all over again
We killed Bunny and nobody is trying to think about what it means
Does it mean that town was lead in circles until mafia (mastina) took control and pushed through a vote on a slot no one felt strongly about?
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:59 pm
by furtiveglance
Fed up of this game. I feel like the overlapping venn diagram circle of players I townread and players who aren't either completely self-obsessed and deluded was about [Bunnyonce, MMR, PPF] and then you killed right in there yesterday, and people are really trying to get on me instead of working with me as obvious town.
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 2:00 pm
by furtiveglance
In post 3291, unwnd wrote: In post 3290, furtiveglance wrote: In post 3283, unwnd wrote:People can be wrong
Hell, I can be wrong
What is telling to me is that with Bunny's death, a lot of people were
Yet it's not being discussed, It's not being considered
It's like it never happened
So why aren't you getting on the umpteen people who voted them wrongly, instead of saying I was 'pretending to care'?
I already elaborated that I think there's scum on the wagon and pointed to a few people
I can do more two things at once you know
Yeah, it's called being a contradiction with no internal logic. If you were really so concerned your vote would reflect it.
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 2:01 pm
by unwnd
In post 3293, Scarfmanship wrote: In post 3289, unwnd wrote:Like this day has just been shoulda coulda woulda like it's fucking D1 all over again
We killed Bunny and nobody is trying to think about what it means
Does it mean that town was lead in circles until mafia (mastina) took control and pushed through a vote on a slot no one felt strongly about?
What you describe is something I feel very strongly about yeah
I still think mastina is mafia honestly. If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but her posts are irredeemably hollow
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 2:03 pm
by unwnd
In post 3295, furtiveglance wrote: In post 3291, unwnd wrote: In post 3290, furtiveglance wrote: In post 3283, unwnd wrote:People can be wrong
Hell, I can be wrong
What is telling to me is that with Bunny's death, a lot of people were
Yet it's not being discussed, It's not being considered
It's like it never happened
So why aren't you getting on the umpteen people who voted them wrongly, instead of saying I was 'pretending to care'?
I already elaborated that I think there's scum on the wagon and pointed to a few people
I can do more two things at once you know
Yeah, it's called being a contradiction with no internal logic. If you were really so concerned your vote would reflect it.
I'm concerned at what I see right now in front of me, while still maintaining my own sense of direction. Me talking about 'hey, I think scum was on this' can build upon looking outside as well, because it should be evident that I find it unlikely that
all
scum were voting Bunny.
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 2:05 pm
by unwnd
In post 3294, furtiveglance wrote:Fed up of this game. I feel like the overlapping venn diagram circle of players I townread and players who aren't either completely self-obsessed and deluded was about [Bunnyonce, MMR, PPF] and then you killed right in there yesterday, and people are really trying to get on me instead of working with me as obvious town.
I am the only person voting you and mastina who still has thread control for ???? reasons thinks I'm scum
You should have nothing to worry about, but you do because...?
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 2:06 pm
by MathBlade
I think 7 scum are alive and 10 town are.
Or 6 and 11.
Making the ratios incredibly skewed and leading to more chaos.
I won’t explain why I think this right now.
But I think a good chunk of the bickering is SvS or TvT.