Reckamonic's Ocarina of Time Mafia..OVER! Was Hyrule saved?

[AKnottedRope]

Time between

Why hasn't Aikage claimed?

He should get lynched by now.

and [/quote="Vezok"]unvote
vote KOC

You are trying to get an easy lynch out of a VI.[/quote]
is 3 days. As it would turn out, YOUR argument is invalid, Beef.

[AKnottedRope]

EBWOQ

Time between

Why hasn't Aikage claimed?

He should get lynched by now.

and

unvote
vote KOC

You are trying to get an easy lynch out of a VI.

is 3 days. As it would turn out, YOUR argument is invalid, Beef.

[Knight of Cydonia]

3 days, with no posts between the two I quoted and the switch to a vote to me. Nothing to indicate a changing of opinion, indicating that the wagon was jumped to simply because... well, why?
And let's be brutally honest here, children - who actually trusts Aikage, whether scum or town, to make the correct decisions in MyLo or LyLo?

[mothrax]

I'm working on something really cool right now! But I think it's going to take a while... If you can wait five or six years, it should be ready. OK?

Welcome to Ocarina of Time Mafia,

Aikage

. You are

Medigoron

. You run a small blacksmith shop on Death Mountain... though it’s not as good as your brother’s. And you can make some cool things... though they’re not as good as your brother’s. In fact, you know what? You’re tired of being compared to your brother! If you step up and help fight against the evil in Hyrule, maybe you’ll be recognized as a hero...and then people can stop comparing you to your goddamn brother!

This flavor doesn't sit right with me. Take away the last sentence and it is a scum role pm....
my vote stands

[Lady Lambdadelta]

KoC, is that reallynthe argument your going to use?

Because if that's your reason why Aikage should be lynched for his claim, then you're just as useless as he is.

@Mothrax: Dude, did you just totally ignore the other part of his claim, where he is shown as a Town JOAT?

I mean... It's nice you're presenting evidence and all, but could you try to not manipulate it to your needs next time?

[mothrax]

I didn't ignore it, and he isn't a JAOT he is an inventor. Reread my post, I am saying he looks like scum... Scum could be inventors as well.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

An inventor... With 5 different inventions... And the ability to Uncover what each one does...

Sounds like a complicated JOAT to me.

[Beefster]

Time between

Why hasn't Aikage claimed?

He should get lynched by now.

and

unvote
vote KOC

You are trying to get an easy lynch out of a VI.

is 3 days. As it would turn out, YOUR argument is invalid, Beef.

How so? Don't forget the CONTEXT.

There was a claim between the two posts.

Yeah, there's not much of a intermediate progression, but if you look at the context, the action seems justified. (not to mention that vezok's posts tend to be short anyway)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Beefster, why don't you let Vezok defend himself?

For those who are wondering: I'm completely scrapping the first 100 posts, and starting over with reads. That first 100 pages is a shit storm.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Time between

Why hasn't Aikage claimed?

He should get lynched by now.

and

unvote
vote KOC

You are trying to get an easy lynch out of a VI.

is 3 days. As it would turn out, YOUR argument is invalid, Beef.

How so? Don't forget the CONTEXT.

There was a claim between the two posts.

Yeah, there's not much of a intermediate progression, but if you look at the context, the action seems justified. (not to mention that vezok's posts tend to be short anyway)

So, because he's usually a shit poster, he gets a free pass here? NOPE.

[AKnottedRope]

I'm not saying KoC is right here, I think Aikage isn't the lynch for the day. I was just pointing out how flawed your point was, Beef.

[Bunnylover]

I'm working on something really cool right now! But I think it's going to take a while... If you can wait five or six years, it should be ready. OK?

Welcome to Ocarina of Time Mafia,

Aikage

. You are

Medigoron

. You run a small blacksmith shop on Death Mountain... though it’s not as good as your brother’s. And you can make some cool things... though they’re not as good as your brother’s. In fact, you know what? You’re tired of being compared to your brother! If you step up and help fight against the evil in Hyrule, maybe you’ll be recognized as a hero...and then people can stop comparing you to your goddamn brother!

This flavor doesn't sit right with me. Take away the last sentence and it is a scum role pm....
my vote stands

But it make sense as a miller claim.

[Beefster]

If he's a miller, why wouldn't he claim it? There's no reason not to.

And BTW, I was making a point about KoC making a crap argument and later reinforcing why I thought it was crap. I hadn't really thought of it as defending vezok, even though that's what it ended up being.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I agree KoC's case is bad, but be careful of how you state things.

That's what I'm learning. I say things meaning one thing, and having people understand an entirely different point >.>

[Albert B. Rampage]

"Not that I particularly agree with anything about his supposed scumslip argument or anything, I just feel he is scummy in general"

Stellar

reasons to vote me, guys.

But you are. For awhile now.

[Bunnylover]

If he's a miller, why wouldn't he claim it? There's no reason not to.

And BTW, I was making a point about KoC making a crap argument and later reinforcing why I thought it was crap. I hadn't really thought of it as defending vezok, even though that's what it ended up being.

For some reason I thought he was one of the people who claimed miller ._.

[DTMaster]

Sorry been busy. Recent comments.

1. I dislike the KoC votes because KoC is acting like the devil's advocate. Ihmo he's doing a ton better then half the player list (eg. Beef/AKR/ABR) in regards to talking about Aikage. If I didn't suspect highly fowl noob play: The guy claiming a day action that he tried to use at night wouldn't sit well with me since

a. It's true you'd expect weird mod warnings the first time he tried actioning at night.
b. You don't usually associate an invention with a killing action.
c. You don't usually associate the killing action to be based on faction.

Ihmo KoC is using normal logic and being critical. I think he's wrong, but I don't think he's scum because of it.

2. As much as I HATE BEEF for the lack of Aikage comments, and I had to do all the bloody work pre/post claim in regards to the Aikage case, the nameloc thing reads as town brownie points.

It bothers me that Beef didn't try this earlier today when I mentioned Nameloc/Senfans would be a danger to the town

. The timing of my attack to the sudden shift to "lets try and get rid of Nameloc votes" is terrible in my opinion. It's like a giant smoke screen.

However I do dislike some members of the wagon on Beef and find them increasingly more scummy then Beef "cough" AKR "cough".

You're not off the hook Beef. You were adamant about this claim that you didn't finish the job in finalizing your case analysis.

You are using my work and saying: Everything is done. I had to ask you what your view was to get the: everything is said quote and even then you don't even weigh in on Aikage's alignment.

.

How you handled the case, and the transition to "stop the Nameloc votes" is terrible. Awful. You didn't show a care in the world for 3 whole days, nor did you show a care about Nameloc/Senfans till now.

All I read is someone who's fishing for townie points now.

3. Cupcake: Explain this BL case because I just don't get it.

4. AKR explain your other cases. Or die in a fire. You're following popular trend again and I dislike this.

Ihmo AKR is the superior wagon. My mind is set and at least I got something out of Beef. Superior AKR wagon is a go.

Unvote, Vote: AKR

[DTMaster]

In fact, the half of people who dispersed from Aikage's wagon that are now using my arguments I dislike so terribly much. There's hardly any original thinkesr in this crowd. i.e. Too many sheeps and scum hiding under this guise.

[Knight of Cydonia]

"Not that I particularly agree with anything about his supposed scumslip argument or anything, I just feel he is scummy in general"

Stellar

reasons to vote me, guys.

But you are. For awhile now.

Please, detail exactly how I'm scummy.

[Aikage]

i dunt like that akr has votin beefster like he did. maybe they arent scum together.

Hey DTM, don't give yourself a hernia...

Beefster is obvscum, and his most recent post doesn't help his case at all.

He claims that knowing his role would explain his motives, yet he refuses to claim. It's not even close to the example you gave.

Except he's claimed, and his claim is believeable. At the moment, my read on Aikage is town.

VOTE: Beefster I want to see more of these from other players.

Beef:
Did you ever hit with your rolling attack yesterday, or did you always miss? I can't remember
Have you used your attack today? If so, on whom? If not, why?
Do you think there is still a shift?

i clicked the quote button to see what woudkl haoppen! so thats how you guys have been doin it. anyway here in this post akr goes from voting me and then votin beefster who was doing the same thing as AKR! beefster wanted me claim, akr did, i claim, akr says beefster is scummy now for wanting my claim???

Unvote:
Vote: AKR

[DTMaster]

Akr your excuse that you're too busy holds no water if you are able to keep up with current scum hunting/voting trends. At this point you're just being scummy. Implore everyone to reread AKR in iso and in context to see the huge trend where he deflects my question but is still able to form opinions on the bandwagon.

Edit. Errr um. There is quite a lot wrong from the transition of Akr scum to Akr town to Akr scum Aikage. I need to reread but arrrrg that post was weird.

Also while I believe AKR and Beef are scum, I don't believe one player clears the other. Each person has been individually scummy. I think we have a case of scum on scum action here from the diffrent factions.

Beefster is a more complicated read. Akr is just reading as scummy.

[Aikage]

also io found 1 more scum!

What do you mean, how is it a scumslip?
Aikage, when asked to claim, details his role, including his

Day

action. Then when asked what he's done, says he gave Ythan something

last night

. Okay, I can see that it could (and in fairness, based on Aikage's play, has a good probability of it) be an idiotic mistake. But it's still contradicting his claim. Either he didn't give anything to Ythan due to it being a Day action attempted at night, which, if confirmed, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on for now, or he just flatout didn't give anything to Ythan because this is a scum fake-claim.
I'm just throwing it out there, I'm not saying OMG EVERYONE POINTING THIS OUT AND HELPING AIKAGE IS SCUM, as Lady's hugely stupid vote on me seems to imply.

he says that he is just throinw it out there so he doesnt get attaked for takin a stance, and he says he gives me benefit of doubt (which means he believes me) but he is still voting me!! and he isnt commenting on anyone else.

i think deadlines is soon and i can vote whoeverr has more votes from these two, but tonight i am going to try and kill chronopoie ior morthraz

[Aikage]

sorry dtm iknow english isnt best for me, but ill try again.

beefster was bein scummy and not readin my claim that he wanted really bad, and akr votes him for it.
then beefster says he read my claim and believes it just like akr odes

but akr is still votin him now... i dont like it.


also i seee now that mothrax has posted about my claim. millers get investigated as scum, but im not scum so that doesnt work with me. also how does he know what a scum role pm looks like anyway?? i think that is big scumslip.

[Bunnylover]

also io found 1 more scum!

What do you mean, how is it a scumslip?
Aikage, when asked to claim, details his role, including his

Day

action. Then when asked what he's done, says he gave Ythan something

last night

. Okay, I can see that it could (and in fairness, based on Aikage's play, has a good probability of it) be an idiotic mistake. But it's still contradicting his claim. Either he didn't give anything to Ythan due to it being a Day action attempted at night, which, if confirmed, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on for now, or he just flatout didn't give anything to Ythan because this is a scum fake-claim.
I'm just throwing it out there, I'm not saying OMG EVERYONE POINTING THIS OUT AND HELPING AIKAGE IS SCUM, as Lady's hugely stupid vote on me seems to imply.

he says that he is just throinw it out there so he doesnt get attaked for takin a stance, and he says he gives me benefit of doubt (which means he believes me) but he is still voting me!! and he isnt commenting on anyone else.

i think deadlines is soon and i can vote whoeverr has more votes from these two, but tonight i am going to try and kill chronopoie ior morthraz

Aikage give an invention away this day if you haven't already. By this day, I mean right now while its still the day before the night. You yourself can't use the inventions, or I don't believe you can.

[Kdub]

Aikage, please respond to this.

i think deadlines is soon and i can vote whoeverr has more votes from these two, but tonight i am going to try and kill chronopoie ior morthraz

This is related to the questions I asked you in the post linked above, but how are you planning to kill anyone at night when your ability as claimed is a day action?