In post 3298, Kagami wrote:@Bubba, marisa as stealing girl is 100% legit. I also think MC would fakeclaim something else if he were scum here, given that the other protagonist was a bad girl and how scummy his role sounds/seems.
Knowing GiF and EM screams thief to me. (which was scum)
In post 3284, Messiah Complex wrote:Each night we target one player and take something of theirs. Some people have stuff, some don't. Stuff matches flavor. Our target will be notified our of our action and it might do something to them.
We targeted Lush N1 and stole the Rod of Judgement (also called the Rod of Remorse).
We targeted Dramonic N2 and he didn't have anything worth stealing.
- Des
So you or Nacho are the ones mollie mentioned.
Does that clear dram as VT? (I think he claimed VT; might be anti-town with immunity)
In post 3291, Kagami wrote:Lush said two things happened to him, so it's still poss he was motivated, and it would be crazy risky for nacho to lie about it.
Would you be able to find this post referencing two events?
OT: Are all of you guys from the same [off] site?
I'd like to hear a counter from Nacho & something from dram.
@pie, did Kagami's action completely erase the follow? If so then future recipients should coordinate with her.
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:37 pm
by pieguyn
I actually don't know 0.0
however it said I had to use it N2 or I lose it so I assume I've lost it
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:39 pm
by Kise
It's lost then.
And nvm dram claimed nothing.
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:51 pm
by Saki
In post 3304, Kise wrote:OT: Are all of you guys from the same [off] site?
maybe or maybe not.
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:38 pm
by Kise
But so many animes in avatars
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:25 pm
by Varsoon
Nacho and GCBC make me so uncomfortable.
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:36 pm
by Katarina LeBlanc
Considering that most powers are X-shot I assume MC's power steals one of the shots for personal use (?)
Unless a hidder PR interacted with him, nacho motivated him
Hey, that's us!
We're
Marisa Kirisame, the Good Stealing Girl
.
Each night we target one player and take something of theirs. Some people have stuff, some don't. Stuff matches flavor. Our target will be notified our of our action and it might do something to them.
We targeted Lush N1 and stole the Rod of Judgement (also called the Rod of Remorse).
We targeted Dramonic N2 and he didn't have anything worth stealing.
- Des
In post 2644, Lush Life wrote:Oracle claim is fine and fits loosely with Yuyuko's (I assume that's who you're trying to claim) and I thought she was town anyway so yeah.
In addition to other stuff, we have the ability to confirm a yet unnamed
person
as town due to interactions last night, but I'm wondering if I should just say what happened and we can leave it till later for who did it to claim.
Muffin's still scum.
-bork (all D2 posts so far have been me and I forgot to sign)
One of those don't belong. When did Lush say that two people visited him or there were two separate interactions with him.
Can we
please
lynch Muffin now, please.
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:18 pm
by Messiah Complex
We wanted to check on Lush because of the tunnel they were in on us. Either Mollie was misguided, or they were scum trying to push hard for our mislynch. So we picked her for our N1 action and we stole the rod. I had to clarify with the mod about the item we stole, and we found out who the rod belonged to. That is why at the beginning of D2 I was talking about flavor so much, because we had their flavor name but we were trying to figure out what it meant.
As far as dramonic, we don't exactly know what to make of him. Probably a vt, but I suppose he could be a goon.
We have conferred and are calling a Muffin/Nacho/Bubba scum team. Put money on it, put your momma on it, take it to the hole and slam that shit home. This game is a fucking wrap. Let's put the women and children to bed and go find some fucking dinner.
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:42 pm
by Varsoon
Before we get carried away with teams and other shenanigans,
can we lynch muffin?
cool.
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:18 pm
by zMuffinMan
Spoiler: @pie
pieguy wrote:this post isn't saying "i'm town, they didn't investigate me" it's asying "they didn't investigate me, therefore i'm town".
it's saying they didn't investigate me, and i'm town. there is no "therefore".
pieguy wrote:not to mention, if you have 2-shot tracker, why would you use both of them immediately? it's infinitely more useful to save at least one for the potential to confirm or deny claims down the road
you're arguing about theory here and you're wrong
pieguy wrote:the katarina track is also bullshit because she was town as fuck and after she fullclaimed oracle they would have no reasno to send her to perform the kill
katarina was about as town as a goldfish is black. i explained why i thought katarina could be scum. and checking your ISO,
you
didn't even think katarina was town up until the oracle claim, after which you gave a vague mention about thinking the claim looked town. so don't give me bullshit about how katarina was "town as fuck"
also i wasn't tracking katarina specifically because she might have performed the kill (i disagree that she wouldn't have performed it as scum, because she was an unlikely track target - lol - and it entirely depends who's scum and what PRs they still have) but because
any
action from her would have confirmed her as scum. and a lack of actions is a semi-confirm she's town.
pieguy wrote:this is BS. he literally just made this up. after i pm'ed GIF asking for my result he said there was no result. so logically, the reason i didn't get a pm at first is because he doesn't send a result PM to someone who gets roleblocked, and not due to some "delay". also, when i got my invention, he PM'ed me before he flipped serene and day actually started and i was able to make a post in the mason QT saying "ohi i got a gift" before realizing they died. so i would expect the same would hold for investigation results
lol
why the fuck would i lie about that?
he sent me my result well after the day phase started, and i assumed this might have had something to do with why you didn't receive a result.
ftr, this did not happen N1, only N2.
pieguy wrote:he's trying to subtly introduce the notion of investigating bubba being a viable move
there was nothing subtle about it. again, this is a theory point and you're wrong. bubba is a
claimed bomb
(albeit 1-shot), he's very unlikely to die at night <- from a theory standpoint, this is a good investigation. AND majiffy was scum reading him, so all the more so.
pieguy wrote:here he says that PeregrineV's paranoia of him was unfounded, but instead of being direct about it, he slides it in at the end of the paragraph.
that is the exact response i would have given as town, word for word, because the suspicion was based on a misunderstanding - everything i said there was true, and the long-winded nature of the post was to explain the situation properly.
pieguy wrote:so GIF is obviously the type of moderator who has no problem with putting misleading stuff like this in his games. I wouldn't put it past him to put a ninja without a tracker
is your theory now that i'm scum who somehow knew there wasn't a tracker in the game? because i don't understand why you're being this stubborn
also. re AA:MFA, just FYI, ninja serial killer vs mafia tracker is NOT a red herring; it is sensible and logical. but here we have a mafia ninja flip. so unless you're suggesting i'm a tracker SK or something, i don't get it.
pieguy wrote:he's dissipating the wagon on him by making everyone run around in circles. this is scum tactic 101 and it's what he's doing here
pieguy, no matter how hard you wish for it, i'm still not scum.
take a step back and think about things from the perspective i'm town. inb4youcallthismanipulation :/
cabd wrote:A: Why nacho directly lied about that if he's town.
B: Why nacho didn't break up the mollie-ffery fight if he's town.
i can think of a very obvious answer to the first question and the fact you can't is strange
and amaranth's first post was well after ffery had replaced out, so what's the point of the second question?
hey cabd, why aren't you doing any setup spec? coz usually you'd be all over it right now, and the only reason i can see you avoiding it is you'd have to admit i'm almost certainly town
also, have you discussed my meta with prohawk? coz i can
maaaybe
understand him being under the impression that i don't make personal attacks as town (coz he's only ever seen one town game of mine that was rather tame) but you should know this isn't true so if you've discussed me at all, 3131 makes no sense (disregarding the fact that what he quoted wasn't even a personal attack).
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:41 pm
by zMuffinMan
the amount of derp in this game is funny
i'm a claimed tracker, no CC, and there's a flipped scum ninja <- like, literally the only possible way you can think i'm scum from this is if you think gif would include a scum ninja for no reason and i'm suicidal
the case on me boils down to lush being suspicious of me D2 and they were a cop. but this ignores the fact that mollie unvoted me and was perfectly fine with voting AD instead (no cop with a guilty ever does this - and no, surviving extra nights isn't a reasonable explanation for this, bubba) and people are also ignoring the fact that nacho is pointing out that mollie doesn't play like that with a guilty
so many people acting oblivious to all this is wow
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:21 pm
by Katarina LeBlanc
The case doesn't boil down to that, Lush definitely crumbed the cop guilty. The ActionDan wagon was rolling, but at the same time ActionDan was also a suspect of them. Why would they openly claim their inspect against another wagon that they're for???
Even if the ActionDan claim was there, they still got a guilty and the reads that Lush gave it is definitey indicative that they copped you in that regardless of what happens to them the following day, their flip will be word enough to suspect you.
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:38 pm
by zMuffinMan
katarina wrote:Why would they openly claim their inspect against another wagon that they're for???
...
you don't lynch a person you
think
could be scum if you know someone else is scum
katarina wrote:the reads that Lush gave it is definitely indicative that they copped you
so what do you think of nacho pointing out that isn't how they play with a guilty?
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:04 am
by Katarina LeBlanc
Lush crumbed a PR. Muffin wagon had 0 traction, only way for him to get you out was through claim or bodybag. Guess which one they did.
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:26 am
by ActionDan
Waiting on Dram before voting (secret oooo)
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:32 am
by zMuffinMan
@kat
have you ever played with any of the heads of lush life? coz they're not shy about screaming for their preferred lynches when they're
not
sure of a read (see D1 here, for example, although that was mostly majiffy) - if they had a guilty on me, they wouldn't have let the AD wagon happen
and you keep ignoring the fact that someone has said mollie has had no issue with outing guilties in the past
use your head
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:55 am
by Kagami
@kat, 2441 and 2442.
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:56 am
by Kagami
The "indecipherable" thing was almost certainly the theft.
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:00 am
by Kagami
Lush wouldn't clear someone by being robbed, so I think 2644 refers to the motivating.
Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:00 am
by Sakura Hana
Well those posts are certainly better than 2644 (It would be very nice if you guys used post tags at least so it's easier to find)
