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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:03 am
by marshy
In post 3220, Joey_ wrote:i think we flip klazoum here btw, if gamma's actually town i can see a klazoum trying to get towncred for the flip
a scum is defending gamma here regardless of gamms alignment. either a50 klazam or both
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:05 am
by marshy
i need a votecount. lol quite a divided town here but im ready for this day to end
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:11 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3296, Kokichi Oma wrote: In post 3214, Joey_ wrote:Is gamma's last red he cannot just claim to have a doc shot and lie/not use it on the IC, it would makes him 100% lynched tomorrow thus against a last-red wincon. At the same time, if gamma's orange there's a lot of gains to get another night
You believe his commute shot claim?
You don't? Might wanna put some justification on that.
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:31 am
by BuJaber
I can't tell anymore if this is town implosion or remaining scum are really really good.
Let's lynch ranzam.
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:34 am
by Chara
town implosion.
marshy gets scumpoints for his last two posts.
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:38 am
by Chara
i appreciate the feedback.
but Joey is definitely town, that one i'm completely sure of. if he's scum i'm rather amazed, though. (and would only reconsider in mylo/lylo when we have more info, of course. i'm not
that
stubborn.)
did you talk about why Joey is scum?
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:46 am
by Almost50
In post 3217, pidgey wrote:A50, im asking again at what point during the night did you submit your night action?
What does it matter? UNLESS there's confirmation that similar actions get resolved on a first come first serve I see no point in assuming Gamma to be a religion spreader at all.
Furthermore, I've been mulling over a contradicting theory that the religion doesn't even stick, meaning if you target brass tonight you will convert him and overrode my action of last night. That makes more sense with the updated list of followers thing AND id the reason why we didn't get any PMs from the mod after N1, as there has yet to be overlapping actions to cause any of my followers (who are exactly ONE) to be converted OFF Taoism.
I mean; I'm supposed to get a PM of my "living followers". If religion sticks then I'd know who my followers are AND would know which of them still lives. so why would I need an updated list from the Mod?
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:49 am
by Almost50
Also something to ponder on: IF there's a 3rd mafia that wins by spreading a religion then the Town religion spreaders are the ones to counter it. It's like a Poisoner/Poison Doctor is a way, or more Arsonist and whatever the role that undouses the Arsonist targets is called, actually.
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:50 am
by Almost50
In post 3225, Joey_ wrote:When i am town and someone i hard townread is being lynched, i try to push a CW really hard, klazoum is basically fencesitting the lynch of his conftown read.
I 100% concur
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:52 am
by Almost50
In post 3227, Chara wrote:no, i agree Elbirn targeted Gamma.
i don't think the odds were that low. in multiball the scumteams want to make sure they don't overlap kills, so going for a player that would be difficult to mislynch but isn't an obvious target makes a lot of sense. :>
(did i do that right, Almost.)
10/10
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:54 am
by Chara
hurray!
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:55 am
by Almost50
This one echoed in my head!!!! Is Kiana Tom Cruise or John Travolta though?? Was there ever an American president who followed Scientology??
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:59 am
by Chara
In post 3307, Almost50 wrote:Also something to ponder on: IF there's a 3rd mafia that wins by spreading a religion then the Town religion spreaders are the ones to counter it. It's like a Poisoner/Poison Doctor is a way, or more Arsonist and whatever the role that undouses the Arsonist targets is called, actually.
i think they're simply different flavours of fruit vendor, though this would be very interesting to see!
i'm not sure how it would balance.
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:02 am
by Klazam
In post 3222, Joey_ wrote:Klazoum saying that gamma is town but he isnt even trying to build a CW to his hard townread conftown gamma
I was trying, and im completely ignored because you idiots want to make conftown gamma fullclaim. Me going fuck you go ahead lynch him was because you voted him "is that a challenge." im just done with this game.
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:08 am
by Chara
i'm not ignoring you. and i believe that's true for other players too.
i don't like seeing this devolve into a bunch of hurt feelings, especially from players i'm townreading.
Gamma fullclaimed. it's done now, let's keep playing. :>
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:08 am
by Klazam
Ok.
Key point here- I was on ran. Kiana looked like a possiblity, too. but.......
then i see everyone going down the gamma COULD be scum rabbithole without considering the fact theres no logicial explantion for gammascum. I try to explain why gamma cant be scum. Ignored. over and over and over.
my investment in the game and motivation dropped because.... oh look you forced a doctor shot to out himself. No shit.
Lynch me if you must. Better me hanging than Gamma, because he is straight up conftown. Call me whiteknighting him or whatever if you must, but honestly, the facts are the facts, apply logic to it.
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:11 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3311, Almost50 wrote:
This one echoed in my head!!!! Is Kiana Tom Cruise or John Travolta though?? Was there ever an American president who followed Scientology??
Oh fuck no don't twist my words like that.
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:12 am
by Chara
Klazam's now up in townleans.
can we lynch scum now?
pedit: Gamma, Almost is kidding. can you take a break from the game for a bit, please?
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:29 am
by Shaziro
Jesus fuck, I spend one day tidying up the house and sleeping in, catching up on rest. I come back to this.
First off, I fucking told you Gamma was better off not claiming and look at that he fucking was. Now everyone who pushed for him to claim should collectively feel bad.
If he -were- a religion spreader, the religion that is most closely tied to his civ would be Orthodoxy or Eastern Orthodoxy, I don't remember which it is called. That'd be the one you'd want to argue there. I look forward to seeing you desperately try to argue that and keep being wrong. Gamma is town.
Let's lynch Kokichi now for being scummy as fuck! ActionDan would be my second choice if I absolutely have to, but that's honestly mostly based in me asking a fairly simple question early on and getting no response time and time again, when I know the question was pointing out an inconsistency in their thinking. Hypocrisy is scummy and all.
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:58 am
by Almost50
In post 3232, Joey_ wrote:Also the order of the quotes are mixed,
"as long as im alive your not fucking lynching gamma"
4 posts later
"go ahead lynch a conftowm"
Another GOOD catch! *Thumbs Up*
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:00 am
by pidgey
In post 3306, Almost50 wrote: In post 3217, pidgey wrote:A50, im asking again at what point during the night did you submit your night action?
What does it matter? UNLESS there's confirmation that similar actions get resolved on a first come first serve I see no point in assuming Gamma to be a religion spreader at all.
Furthermore, I've been mulling over a contradicting theory that the religion doesn't even stick, meaning if you target brass tonight you will convert him and overrode my action of last night. That makes more sense with the updated list of followers thing AND id the reason why we didn't get any PMs from the mod after N1, as there has yet to be overlapping actions to cause any of my followers (who are exactly ONE) to be converted OFF Taoism.
I mean; I'm supposed to get a PM of my "living followers". If religion sticks then I'd know who my followers are AND would know which of them still lives. so why would I need an updated list from the Mod?
I got confirmation from the mod that if two roles like the ones i have (religion spreader) target a player, the one who submits first gets priority.
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:02 am
by pidgey
I mean you can ask if you dont believe me
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:03 am
by Almost50
In post 3235, Chara wrote:i don't really see what Klazam gains from "lynch me first", especially considering the number of players happy to do that. (obviously there's "to look town")
There maybe enough players for the lynch, but how many are (or rather WERE) voting Klazam?? NONE! So the bravado there is to intimidate more townie to go lynch Gamma thinking "Scum!Gamma = Scum!Klazam for sure" and then Gamma flips Town and they turn elsewhere.
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:04 am
by Almost50
In post 3240, Gamma Emerald wrote:No, I'm not letting this go. If you really believe this shit you're saying you'll have to justify it a little better. Do you think I faked my flavor or that I'm some rando religion that happens to fit with being Russia and science mafia (which btw there is none)?
Rasputin fits PERFECTLY!
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:06 am
by Almost50
In post 3243, Joey_ wrote:VOTE: klazoum
Please be coherent with your post that you prefer to be lynched over gamma and self
I'll take that ANYTIME!
VOTE: Klazam