In post 3285, SirCakez wrote:You aren't at L-1 anymore WANH and RC invited
Jjh HAS ACTUALLY been speedhammered and flipped town
In post 3289, SirCakez wrote:My primary reason continues to be your overreaction to any and all pressure on you. Just look at your posts over the last two pages.
That is NAI for Vecna and for a lot of people. I get wrongly sr for that all the damn time. Why do people auto assume, if you don’t want to be lynched, you defacto have to be scum?
In post 2530, Shuichi Saihara wrote:If mastina's posts addressed to TH are scum distancing, I have to admit it's pretty good distancing.
VOTE: Vecna
ho-ho look at this
@Sushi, none of this is making any sense. Mastina is treating us just like any player in this game and wtf does that have to do with you putting a naked vote on Vecna?
you're the alternative person i'd be voting right now
In post 3024, SirCakez wrote:go to bed whoever posted that in TH!!!!!
P-edit: I want to stay on Vecna but I also want to be reasonable with TH :/
I pretty much just woke up. Why is Vecna scum? He seems super townie to me?
~N
I went over this earlier so quick summary - he fit some tell Molla has about scum immediately checking their own ISO, his catchup and subsequent posts seemed overtly concerned with getting votes off of him, his cases and posts have been bad (I called out some specific ones in my ISO)
And Jormun was really scummy but we all know that
I forgot about Jorman but based on my experience playing with Vecna, your reasons for sr Vecna I see as NIA.
See, cakez? And im sure people like Mastina, RC (he wont), Cephrir (maybe?), Alisae (maybe too long ago) and a bunch of others can attest to the pride shit.
Im used to being townread as town, and if its not the case I will fight to make it so. Thats my playstyle, detrimental as it may be at times.
The moment people stop scumreading me, deal. I'll stop posting when people stop fucking scumreading me. Done deal, easy.
Good luck getting people to stop scumreading me.
You can't match my thread presence
You can either shut the fuck up or talk alot and achieve the exact same result you would achieve otherwise but you can choose to ruin the game for everyone at the same time if you choose!
RC going into toxic mode while not being under any direct pressure himself yet? Uncharacteristic
If you are town you have one path alone to victory and that's shutting the fuck up and letting me power Lynch both Halloween scum and rendering your game irrelevant
But you turned from that path a long time ago
So WHO are the two scum in Halloween? Havent seen a read out of you in some time. Heck, you havent even called me scum yet a single time, yet you've been completely fine letting people vote me and directing it there.
In post 3053, mastina wrote:Yes and people think that for some reason I'd be aware of the exact number of votes that flashwagon had
You seem to be posting while not reading new content. So how would you know if there was a vote on someone or not between the post you're currently reading and the actual current post?
Yes! Precisely! How would I know if there's a vote on someone between the post I'm reading and the current post?
I wouldn't.
So I wouldn't have known about jjh being L-1.
Ergo you proved I did not intentionally hammer jjh.
Not at all - ergo I'm proving that you should have been more careful, knowing thread consensus was against jjh as well.
-Stuxnet
(Btw, I think I'll take a break for a day or two from the game)
Noooo, dont take away my horses, the voice of sanity in all this madness.
In post 3174, RadiantCowbells wrote:Auro in his own words doesn't care about other people's reads if they conflict with his own.
LOL, and it is RC of all people pointing this out. I wonder whatll happen if NSG's reads conflict with his own at any point in this game.
For what its worth ceph, you are actually one of the more enjoyable people to play with <3 - youre a saint and all. The thing is just, nothing you've done is anywhere close to being out of your scumrange, and im really not seeing any of your stances that have allowed me to think "this is exclusive to town". Youre one of those people where it almost feels bad to scumread you, and that makes you so dangerous.
In post 3165, SirCakez wrote:before I respond to some questions aimed at me I just want to say I am very close to PMing the listmods. I'm sick of this argument, it's gone way over the line and I like the players in this game and don't want it to end in replacements and bans.
please do this is clearly called for
i'm barely reading the thread at this point and am surprised no one else is visibly considering replacing out but i'm having negative fun here
Well, this time at least I feel the same. And it takes quite a lot of bullshit for me to care.
In post 3182, SirCakez wrote:oh yeah @TH the link between Mastina-Vecna is gamestate from VCs. I think with the wagons at the time competing but neither being sent home it fits.
FWIW I am feeling more and more like vecna scum since he posted when he first joined and we haven't heard from him since
Id really like some elaboration on this. Why did you change your mind? Also, you havent heard from me? What? I have not been away from the game for a period LONGER than 12-14h since I replaced in. How does that statement make any sense?
In post 2530, Shuichi Saihara wrote:If mastina's posts addressed to TH are scum distancing, I have to admit it's pretty good distancing.
VOTE: Vecna
ho-ho look at this
@Sushi, none of this is making any sense. Mastina is treating us just like any player in this game and wtf does that have to do with you putting a naked vote on Vecna?
you're the alternative person i'd be voting right now
This isn’t helping me to tr you, fyi. It just comes across as a really bad and possibly scummy omgus. Contrast that with Cakez for example, who didn’t respond that way. That’s why I think he’s town. It’s townie to assume that the slot pushing you is more likely to be wrong town than scum, unless you are a very inexperienced or newb player, which you obviously aren’t, so this read of yours looks scummy to me. I won’t be trying to dissuade Auro from voting you. I’m not tr your reaction.
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:40 am
by SirCakez
Vecna - right now mastina has no credibility in my eyes because even if she's town she must be incredibly tilted. I'm not going to rely on those reads.
Why in half of your posts towards me do you shade me and call me scum and in the other half you see town motivation? See 3298, for example.
That may take awhile. Anything you suggest in particular I look out for, keep in mind?
I still don’t get how we were ever your “ideal lynch” when Auro has been so obviously town?
At literally no point have you been my favorite lynch.
What is your thought on this post Cakez.
Do you feel this is a fair post to make from RC? Im asking you especially now, because RC really wanted to lynch this slot for quite some time, and you have finally come around now.
I mean I don't see anything wrong with it. I'm TRing TH rn.
In post 3285, SirCakez wrote:You aren't at L-1 anymore WANH and RC invited
Jjh HAS ACTUALLY been speedhammered and flipped town
In post 3289, SirCakez wrote:My primary reason continues to be your overreaction to any and all pressure on you. Just look at your posts over the last two pages.
That is NAI for Vecna and for a lot of people. I get wrongly sr for that all the damn time. Why do people auto assume, if you don’t want to be lynched, you defacto have to be scum?
There's a difference between town and scum reactions to wagons.
Can someone with Vecna experience confirm his self-meta analysis?
I'm willing to go back to a Baezu wagon
like oh, okay, i'll just stop suspecting you then!!!
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:48 am
by Vecna
In post 3304, SirCakez wrote:Vecna - right now mastina has no credibility in my eyes because even if she's town she must be incredibly tilted. I'm not going to rely on those reads.
Why in half of your posts towards me do you shade me and call me scum and in the other half you see town motivation? See 3298, for example.
Im still in the process of analyzing you? Would you prefer I just assume that youre a trash-tier player and youre incapable of putting up a good scum performance? That is not my impression of you at all. So while im under the impression youre more likely town than scum, I will continue to look critically at you and call out any shit that makes no sense to me.
Just because I see town motivation in some things, I havent seen anything that cannot be manufactured by scum. So it remains a constant struggle to make sure I put you in the right pile.
Hey Ceph, lets have a civilized discussion. See it as a chance to use your charm and win me over?
Right now, me and PH have locked eachother as town. We have an unbreakable soulread on eachother and nothing is going to break that. Now, can you do me the favor and assume we are correct here. Help us solve the game then, and show us that we shouldnt be scumreading you.
It would really help us if you could just comment freely on a lot of other stuff and show us how you read allignment in them. Help us get a proper read on you if youre town.
I know youre capable of it. Also, help me see why you think RC is townreading you this hard, and why youre not critical of him giving you such an easy townread that he is willing to die for.
How do you think that happened? You think it was natural?
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:01 am
by Vecna
Whats the prod timer on this website again? It really feels like GiF and Lie Ren should be here participating by now.
Would really suck if im going full suspicious mode here while the easy answer is just that the 2 lurkers made a few nice posts and then decided to coast on it (or replace in the other instance and then coast)
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:02 am
by Vecna
RC, who do you currently want to lynch?
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:09 am
by Vecna
Also, im taking note that Gamma Emerald is currently online on the website. Im expecting him to grace us with his presence and wisdom shortly.
In post 2506, mastina wrote:Ergo, RadiantCowbells is scum, because he is playing to the scum wincon of preventing town cohesion.
thing is, he's sorta been putting up a weak show about it
i expect town RC to go all in on scumreading us,
but
, wouldn't scum RC cause up a major stink about all of this to break up town cohesion if it threatened him?
like he's mildly asked Oka to help him (sheep onto Vecna I guess) and is pretty laid back
Holy fuck.
How can ANYONE be fucking scumreading this slot?
Pearl after pearl of brilliant, solid town logic, genuine analysis.
(im not sure I agree with the conclusion since scum RC does build up and takes it very easy on D1, but thats besides the point.
RC is great enough at scum to do exactly the right things to get majorly townread and antagonizing enough as town to get the suspicious people pinged hardcore
)
Man, if you're pulling off a blatant pocket job here, o well consider me pocketed
Regarding the bolded, true, but I think with NSG town he would make the game more difficult for himself (also consider that his buddies can get lynched and he still loses) by only focusing on doing the right things to get townread. As town cohesion grows, he would
have
to start working against that. That was what I was thinking at that point.
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:36 am
by Vecna
The only reason these words would not give you any pause, is if you got a red role pm
(and presenting it as such is likely to not really help your case)