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In post 3298, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 3294, Datisi wrote:i don't do that unless i'm super confident in my reads, which rarely happens.

well you've already admitted your read on me this game is due to coalition which is what I suspected in the beginning to begin with.

i think we might have different ideas of what "because of coalition" means. you seem extremely scummy to me this game in a way which is heavily reminding me of it.

i thought me tunneling was obviously towny being wrong. or was saying that a nk bait too?

Datisi town reads bugs because he didn't get a "feeling" that he was mafia. Their movement leads me to believe that they have been communicating because they have been targeting the same people and which seems coordinated. Do 2 goons still make

sense with a bomb? I was kind of confused how open you were about saying that there are 2 goons. There is nothing that says what the roles of the mafia are but no one said anything so I thought that is how setups are.

yeah, that's how i read bugs. i get a strong urge to hit them over the head with a baseball bat if they're scum. i don't get the same urge if they're town. past games confirm this. i am physically incapable of explaining it.

if the same "coordination" didn't continue when raven replaced in, what dos that tell you?

i said there are two goons because friendly neighbor + bodyguard + named townies (read VTs) is balanced against two mafia goons. no, if you add a town bomb to that, it doesn't make sense. the town bomb doesn't make sense. which you seemed to be on board with until you realized that me and bugs are apparently playing like "mason". while me and raven aren't. sure.

Raven just hasn't voted but it seems like you both want me/pooky so I wouldn't say that you two have not continued. In fact it was Raven who said that I didn't see you two as masons. I'll have to check your timing when you mentioned that 2 goons makes sense but I think you might have said that just so FoS would be put on a PR.

In post 3303, dsjstr wrote:Raven just hasn't voted but it seems like you both want me/pooky so I wouldn't say that you two have not continued. In fact it was Raven who said that I didn't see you two as masons. I'll have to check your timing when you mentioned that 2 goons makes sense but I think you might have said that just so FoS would be put on a PR.

I feel more confident on you!scum > Pooky but unless my reads are off somewhere, you two look like the most likely based off of PoE. I also don’t understand why he claims I ever jumped on him D1, when I’m extremely sure that wasn’t the case, so no idea where he’s getting that from.

I think you completely abandoning your too many PRs theory without any explanation is weird, plus you keep saying that Dats/bugs were somehow “communicating” but you clearly aren’t seeing that with me, so why do you keep pushing this narrative? So, it just reads off to me that you completely abandon that too many TPR theory without ever explaining why and then push Dats/me as a team despite you keep only mentioning Dats/bugs as being involved with this alleged “communicating” but not me. I would think that town!you would clearly have to realize that your theory doesn’t really hold up but instead of rethinking it, you continue to pursue that narrative.

If I'm wrong then I'd like to be the hammer today.

Can I ask why you don't want pooky hammered today?

In post 3305, dsjstr wrote:If I'm wrong then I'd like to be the hammer today.

Why won’t you just answer my questions? Why did you drop your too many TPRs theory and why aren’t you re-evaluating on your Dats/me team when you clearly don’t think we’re secretly “communicating”?

Because I don't know any more, I don't have knowledge on setups other than newbie. But I think I called you two out early in the day so obviously you would play like you have not been communicating it would be silly if you made it obvious.

dsjstr's iso today jumps from "it's raven/dats" to "pooky is obviously lying i don't wanna vote in case of quickhammer" to "nvm PRs are fine it's raven/dats" again and like none of it is making sense

In post 3306, dsjstr wrote:Can I ask why you don't want pooky hammered today?

I’m less opposed than I was since I don’t understand why he’s claiming things I am very confident are untrue, like me and SS jumping on him but I’m really having trouble with you continuing to pursue a narrative that is chock full of contradictions - me/Dats as the scumteam based off of alleged secret “communicating” despite only claiming you thought that of him/bugs but not him/me. You still haven’t explained why the fact that you are not seeing that with me/Dats hasn’t caused you to re-evaluate. Town tends to do that when there are obvious holes in their theory but it’s scummy that it hasn’t caused you to reacess. Also, why were you claiming that Pooky was scum due to there being too mny TPRs and just completely abandon it to push Dats/me? Do you not see why that looks scummy?

In post 3308, dsjstr wrote:Because I don't know any more, I don't have knowledge on setups other than newbie. But I think I called you two out early in the day so obviously you would play like you have not been communicating it would be silly if you made it obvious.

So you don’t see it as possible that your theory could just be flat out wrong?

I do which is why I would want to be the hammer... if pooky is actually bomb then I don't want to be in that ELO because of how bad I had thrown.

In post 3309, Datisi wrote:dsjstr's iso today jumps from "it's raven/dats" to "pooky is obviously lying i don't wanna vote in case of quickhammer" to "nvm PRs are fine it's raven/dats" again and like none of it is making sense

Yeah, it’s weird and hedgey, especially since he is only claiming to see this secret “communicating” with you/bugs, yet he is claiming the lack of this obvious alleged communicating with you/me clearly means we’re trying to make it look not obvious.

If he doesn’t see any evidence of us doing that but from his pov, only you/bugs, then town!him should be seriously considering that his theory might be wrong, rather than claiming we’re trying to not make it look obvious - when he has already pretty much straight up stated that he hasn’t seen anything whatsoever to indicate that you/me are involved in any secret communicating, so how is that even making an iota of sense?

In post 3312, dsjstr wrote:I do which is why I would want to be the hammer... if pooky is actually bomb then I don't want to be in that ELO because of how bad I had thrown.

Why would town!you want to be the hammer? I don’t understand why you wouldn’t want to be in ELO. I don’t know what to think anymore.

But fypov, if you know you’re town, you shouldn’t want to be the hammer because that’s antitown. Do you no longer think there are too many TPRs or not? If yes, then it seems seriously super weird that you would want to be the hammer. I really don’t know what to make of this.

I'd be the obvious elim option and town loses, if you think that there are only two PR's then why not vote for pooky? If we assume that there are 2 goons then I would say that having a third PR would not be likely... but how do we know there are 2 goons?

In post 3300, Datisi wrote:i thought me tunneling was obviously towny being wrong. or was saying that a nk bait too?

you attacking me so viciously so early felt townie to me - I'm less sure about you staying tunnelled and not progressing your read in any way. Like you keep saying that I am acting like in coalition but everyone here has disagreed with you on that read and you seem unwilling to re-examine your views.

In post 3304, Raven Branwen wrote:I also don’t understand why he claims I ever jumped on him D1, when I’m extremely sure that wasn’t the case, so no idea where he’s getting that from.

I was talking about bugspray who almost accidentally hammered me on D1 - you are playing his slot rn.

In post 3315, dsjstr wrote:I'd be the obvious elim option and town loses, if you think that there are only two PR's then why not vote for pooky? If we assume that there are 2 goons then I would say that having a third PR would not be likely... but how do we know there are 2 goons?

I have no idea if there are too many TPRs but if there are a bg neighbour probably makes more sense than a bomb. I’d feel safer basing my vote off of play and once again you seem to be contradicting yourself. You claim you want to be the hammer yet you want me to vote Pooky, so which is it then? If you want to be the hammer than why are you trying to get me to vote Pooky when your vote is still on Dats? Like this sounds really fucked up

How can you claim you want to be the hammer in case Pooky really is a bomb but still want me to vote him? Like why aren’t you voting Pooky? You’re literally not making any sense here.

In post 3316, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'm less sure about you staying tunnelled and not progressing your read in any way.

my reads progressed though. to "ok guess this dude is PR" to "no wait no his claim is complete bullshit".

like i'm town. skitt is conftown to me. ducky is most liekl, town by setup. s_s's slot was townlocked by two different people whom i trust and who flipped town. that's three people left. one that i townread, one i don't, and one i used to actively scumread, stopped becuse of claim, who made a horrible claiming "gambit", who bad faith pushed through the day one's execution. ye sure. give me a reason i should be townreading you here.

i dont get what the hammer means. does hammer mean last vote or something different here?

In post 3317, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 3304, Raven Branwen wrote:I also don’t understand why he claims I ever jumped on him D1, when I’m extremely sure that wasn’t the case, so no idea where he’s getting that from.

I was talking about bugspray who almost accidentally hammered me on D1 - you are playing his slot rn.

But why did you say “Raven” then? but okay I guess that makes sense?

What do you think of dsjtr’s recent posting?

In post 3320, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i dont get what the hammer means. does hammer mean last vote or something different here?

Dsjstr seems to be claiming he wants to be today’s execution but he’s also trying to get me to vote you while he’s still voting Dats.

In post 3322, Raven Branwen wrote:

In post 3320, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i dont get what the hammer means. does hammer mean last vote or something different here?

Dsjstr seems to be claiming he wants to be today’s execution but he’s also trying to get me to vote you while he’s still voting Dats.

Or is he actually saying he won’t move off of Dats unless he can hammer you? I am seriously confused by it but I’m having real trouble understanding how whichever is coming from a townie mindset.

In post 3321, Raven Branwen wrote:

In post 3317, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 3304, Raven Branwen wrote:I also don’t understand why he claims I ever jumped on him D1, when I’m extremely sure that wasn’t the case, so no idea where he’s getting that from.

I was talking about bugspray who almost accidentally hammered me on D1 - you are playing his slot rn.

But why did you say “Raven” then? but okay I guess that makes sense?

What do you think of dsjtr’s recent posting?

i think if dsjtr is town we r really fkd