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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:16 pm
by team rocket queen
i may be incorrectly combining these then:
In post 1882, Kanna wrote:
“No Launch” is not possible. If a majority launch is not achieved, plurality will decide.
VC to come soon!
In post 1889, Kanna wrote:
The last person with a vote will be the launch. Any unresolvable cases will result in a random town launch. No launch is not possible!
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:20 pm
by team rocket queen
In post 3296, team rocket queen wrote:
because i had previously said i thought gypyx was town, because i had given reasoning i thought hopkirk might be mafia, because hopkirk had just called me dumb when infinity switched his vote
because part of the reason i was wary of the hopkirk wagon was because infinity was on it
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:42 pm
by Gloria Cleary
At the start of the game
, the 6 of them were told that if any of them die in the first two launches, they will instantly lose.
@Jessie, did you miss this?
Also, the only one really hard scumreading Infinity was you, so why does scum!Infininty sit on Gypyx for 3 hours? Because let’s say you’re right that Flea/Infinity is the scumteam, does scum!Infinity really sit on Gypyx for 3 hours counting that no one will hammer him in that time period?
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:45 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
if the scumteam is infinity/flea then isis is the only person who could hammer during that time period
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:49 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
the distribution of roles yesterday was 6 town, 6 scum.
so in the world where infinity/flea are scum,
that would mean
gyp was at 5.
hop was at 4.
Infinity-Scum switches over to make it 6-3 with Isis!town being the only person who could hammer since 5 town/infinity are already on gyp.
So how does the scumteam know/gambit Isis stays offline/doesn't hammer Gyp?
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:52 pm
by team rocket queen
no i was saying that the conspirators did not know that the town would be told this.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:53 pm
by team rocket queen
does town!isis hammering gypyx seem likely there to either of you?
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:55 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3299, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:like i'm pretty sure it would be first wagon to reach 6 that gets launched
if it was the last, somebody could just unvote and revote to game the system.
if it's ties always result in town launches, then a person placing a tying vote is directly scum-claiming and signalling the person they voted has to be town.
@Pooky I know you’re really good at mechanics. Is what Jessie saying make sense because I don’t know why one of Hopkirk’s strongest trs needs to prove himself like this?
That’s another thing, I don’t think we should ignore the guy who correctly nailed 4/5 scum and he hard tr both Infinity and Flea. Also, I very much doubt scum!Skitter would insist one of her buddies continue to push obvtown!me. In fact, Skitter would advise them to hardpocket me instead. Why? Because look what happened when I finally had enough of Infinity ridiculously paranoiaong on me, I got exasperated which Skitter would absolutely anticipate, so I can’t believe scum!Skitter seriously advises her buddy Infinity to continue to push me like that. Now remember, I was extremely suspicious of Infinity when I still hard tr Skitter because I actually could have bought Skitter!town with Infinity!scum but I don’t believe any Skitter buddy would have been insane enough to keep pushing me like that.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:58 pm
by Gloria Cleary
The point is that SCUM knew this and for you to argue Infinity!scum, you would need to explain why scum takes the risk that no townie hammers Gypyx in that 3 hour time span.
I just don’t understand how Infinity isn’t locktown for you after this.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:59 pm
by team rocket queen
In post 3308, Gloria Cleary wrote:you would need to explain why scum takes the risk that no townie hammers Gypyx in that 3 hour time span.
but i just explained this over the past couple pages
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:03 pm
by Gloria Cleary
If Pooky had stayed on him, possibly. Because Hopkirk really obvtowned close to deadline but you’re essentially arguing that scum takes the chance of losing the game on the gambit that town!Isis is guaranteed not to switch her vote?
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:05 pm
by Gloria Cleary
But what if Pooky had remained on Gypyx? If your argument is that Flea his his buddy, then how could scum have known that Pooky would switch to Hopkirk?
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:07 pm
by team rocket queen
In post 3310, Gloria Cleary wrote:If Pooky had stayed on him, possibly. Because Hopkirk really obvtowned close to deadline but you’re essentially arguing that scum takes the chance of losing the game on the gambit that town!Isis is guaranteed not to switch her vote?
town!isis seems very unlikely to switch her vote in that situation to me, so it seems somewhat likely to me that the conspirators might have felt this way, yes.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:07 pm
by Gloria Cleary
I’m going to check this out before I comment any further.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:10 pm
by team rocket queen
In post 3311, Gloria Cleary wrote:
But what if Pooky had remained on Gypyx? If your argument is that Flea his his buddy, then how could scum have known that Pooky would switch to Hopkirk?
i thought it was possible that pooky would not have had to for hopkirk still to have been eliminated, though i may have been misinterpreting kanna's posts
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:10 pm
by team rocket queen
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:22 pm
by Gloria Cleary
What I’m getting from Infinity’s scumgames is he tends to be a lot more self-conscious as scum then I’m seeing in this game.
@Infinity, I’m sure you’ve already done this but I’m lazy to check your ISO but can you please list some more towngames? Or I might just metadive you.
Anyway, I think Pooky is probably town for all of the sorting he’s done on both Flea and Infinity.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:32 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 3307, Gloria Cleary wrote:@Pooky I know you’re really good at mechanics. Is what Jessie saying make sense because I don’t know why one of Hopkirk’s strongest trs needs to prove himself like this?
i think she is confusing 2 different rules
the mod will clarify how the eliminations actually work at a 6-6 tie whenever he wakes up.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:37 pm
by Gloria Cleary
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=21297
Infinity towngame. I don’t remember if this is the same or different one that he linked.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:39 pm
by Gloria Cleary
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:40 pm
by Gloria Cleary
In post 3317, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: In post 3307, Gloria Cleary wrote:@Pooky I know you’re really good at mechanics. Is what Jessie saying make sense because I don’t know why one of Hopkirk’s strongest trs needs to prove himself like this?
i think she is confusing 2 different rules
the mod will clarify how the eliminations actually work at a 6-6 tie whenever he wakes up.
Yeah, I’m extremely confused by how this works.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:43 pm
by Kanna
I assume the first person to reach 6 votes will be the launch. I will confirm with Hectic.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:50 pm
by Gloria Cleary
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=34888
Flea towngame
I couldn’t find any Flea scumgames but fae were a lot more serious in that game.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:56 pm
by Gloria Cleary
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=34888
Another Flea towngame. I will re - ISO them in Death Curse but these games are making me lean to Flea!scum here.
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:04 pm
by Gloria Cleary
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=34888
Death Curse Flea
Based off of how fae are very different from all of these game to this one, I’m leaning scum!Flea and town!Ydrasse since they are never buddies here.
I should probably also metadive Ydrasse as well. God this is really complicating this now because I’m now doubting my Infinty/Isis reads since she’s hard tr Ydrasse, who is probably town here.