In post 3112, Ydrasse wrote:if yin is contradicting himself and lying i don't think we should care about the criminal thing anymore like. at this point we have no reason to reckon that it's helpful when he Killed A Confirmed Townie. basing reads on it and reaching conclusions of "one of x/y" using it as a hallmark seems really dumb and i'm sorry if that's mean but it's true
Maybe yes, maybe no but It won’t be my primary sorting method. Dw, you didn’t hurt my feelings or anything but I have my own system- which is always in a state of progress- for figuring out the game. People should take anything I tin foil with a grain of salt.
The nature of this game, makes having accurate reads challenging, so any theory that helps, I won’t outright dismiss.
In post 3113, Tanner wrote:i really wish i could keep my mouth shut here, but... he didn't, zero is an even number.
he's still blatantly lied about there being 3 factions and you should ignore him, but uh, yeah.
There is town, there is scum, there's the Yin/Yang. 3 factions. It's semantics.
I was thinking that the 3 factions could incorporate that. I’m still shocked that Yin was allowed to detonate Ircher.
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 1:48 pm
by Amy Dunne
I’m onboard with Ydrasse, Pooky first/second.
If anyone’s interactions with Infinity are clearly antipartnery, it’s Pooky.
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 1:55 pm
by Yang
Remember when I tried to protect the mafia from your votings
And you didn't listen to me
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 1:57 pm
by Amy Dunne
I’m lowkey kind’ve wondering why Tweetie wasn’t IC’d instead of me, because I haven’t been doing as much.
I’m feeling kind’ve of frustrated with Ydrasse for totally dismissing my theory because I’m not 100% confident in wroting it off just yet. That doesn’t however change my read on her.
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 1:59 pm
by Amy Dunne
In post 3306, Yang wrote:Remember when I tried to protect the mafia from your votings
And you didn't listen to me
Yang
, what are your current reads?
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:03 pm
by Amy Dunne
VOTE: Ydrasse
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:05 pm
by Tanner
can we not vote the people who townread me out first please :/
also uhh. was busy with other things tonight. definitely doing stuff soon still.
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:08 pm
by Ydrasse
In post 3307, Amy Dunne wrote:I’m lowkey kind’ve wondering why Tweetie wasn’t IC’d instead of me, because I haven’t been doing as much.
I’m feeling kind’ve of frustrated with Ydrasse for totally dismissing my theory because I’m not 100% confident in wroting it off just yet. That doesn’t however change my read on her.
i'm not feeling good at all so don't expect a lot from me tonight but, what theory do you mean?
also @tanner with my dying (living?) breath i will tell these people to vote you next if i'm heading out you are my top townread and i do not think you could fake this game as scum
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:22 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
ydrasse is at S-2
so if someone votes her and she is scum she can self-hammer and escape
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:23 pm
by Ydrasse
VOTE: ydrasse
there you go
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:24 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
that doesn't reduce my fear any more dear >.>
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:25 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
do you have any dying reads you want to share with us if you really are going to be first person out?
I'm still on day 1 of my re-read
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:26 pm
by Amy Dunne
Can anyone explain to me why Chara is scum because it sounds here? It’s play here reads
very much like its play in FL v Hectic and nothing at all like in Pokemon Battles.
Well at least I’m getting listened to on my Pooky locktown read.
Fwiw @Flea, I doubt Yin laid out the entire mafia team. Scum designated two of their members to sentence, so I think either both Tanner/Chara are town or just one of them. If only one is town, I still feel the best aboutChara.
Yin also told Pooky that there were an even number of scum in Pooky/Clidd/Tweetie, which contradicts his Tanner/Chara reads.
My theory and (feel free to call this “dumb” Ydra - I really don’t believe it is ) - is there is possibly one scum from each group, Pooky excluded.
So, one scum in Tweetie/Clidd and one in Tanner/Chara.
I’m not wedded to this but I really think it’s extremely silly to outright dismiss it. If this is totally wrong, then browbeat me post-game.
Wifom isn’t complete meaningless.
People should seriously think what it means, that everyone but me thinks Chara is scum. I’m also not convinced on Clidd!scum either. Infinity’s ISO looks somewhat antipartnery for Clidd and then Nakata kept trying to tie him to him but my read on Clidd is not very strong. I think at least one town between Tweetie/Clidd.
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:27 pm
by Ydrasse
i cant skulk away into the night
i really think that tanner is town that's my strongest read and i know that like, amy has some doubts but i really think he should be next. it will also give context finally to the criminal thing and since i think he's gonna flip town it should help people recalibrate from the criminal stuff, do mt next after him and then from there hopefully people will have posted enough to have ironed out the final townie who will probably be like you or flea
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:29 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
kinda worried there's not a lot of meat on those reads Ydra ngl -.-
Unless Ydrasse’s scumgame has dramatically changed, she tends to do this weird hedgey thing as scum. Remember Waltz? Scum!Ydrasse has trouble maintaining believable conviction.
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:31 pm
by Ydrasse
In post 3316, Amy Dunne wrote:Can anyone explain to me why Chara is scum because it sounds here? It’s play here reads
very much like its play in FL v Hectic and nothing at all like in Pokemon Battles.
Well at least I’m getting listened to on my Pooky locktown read.
Fwiw @Flea, I doubt Yin laid out the entire mafia team. Scum designated two of their members to sentence, so I think either both Tanner/Chara are town or just one of them. If only one is town, I still feel the best aboutChara.
Yin also told Pooky that there were an even number of scum in Pooky/Clidd/Tweetie, which contradicts his Tanner/Chara reads.
My theory and (feel free to call this “dumb” Ydra - I really don’t believe it is ) - is there is possibly one scum from each group, Pooky excluded.
So, one scum in Tweetie/Clidd and one in Tanner/Chara.
I’m not wedded to this but I really think it’s extremely silly to outright dismiss it. If this is totally wrong, then browbeat me post-game.
Wifom isn’t complete meaningless.
People should seriously think what it means, that everyone but me thinks Chara is scum. I’m also not convinced on Clidd!scum either. Infinity’s ISO looks somewhat antipartnery for Clidd and then Nakata kept trying to tie him to him but my read on Clidd is not very strong. I think at least one town between Tweetie/Clidd.
i dont think that chara is especially scummy (i havent reread and only have its word for things atm though) but there are townier people; i feel chara is doing more that i can recall lately but that's recency and there's nothing Bad in what it's saying it's just like... blending in for me in a way that feels beneficial to scum trying to eek in that final place versus towny slots but idk. it could also just be town that just hasn't done as much, but i don't have a scumread on chara
if your theory is the case though, it's probably clidd/chara which...? i know you don't have the same read on tanner as i do but i really, really think he's town and i hope you listen to me if you send me out? like of all the reads i have this game this is the one i am most confident on like. i'll even give you my Blessing to send out pooky if you send out tanner for me lol. but he's done the same things i have all game, the same pushes, and i know that some of your read on me is meta but i'm confident that tanner's been samebraining with me too much for him to be scum
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:32 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
none of her reads in 3317 feel like they have any conviction behind them?
i haven't reread so i'm going a lot off of memory right now; tanner's pushes being the exact same as mine all game and having the same sort of turns when i do; mt's emotional reactions; your interactions, also with mt; and then the rest is like... flea which is town (?) for *hand waves* whatever flea is up to, and then clidd and chara who i am still rolling around over
if you want me to provide more 'meat' for you on a reread it probably isn't going to be tonight because i have a splitting headache though
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:33 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
im paranoiaing off the charts right now that ydrasse is flipping red and trying to set up Tanner to be her fall guy
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:34 pm
by Ydrasse
i am convinced that tanner + mt are town and i have been solid on the former all game though? and mt not as much but pretty damn certain
the rest i'm not as sure on though, yeah. but is that a problem when i'm saying "yeah this is 3/4 and then you guys just need to find 1 more and this is what i think probably wins for us anyways"?