In post 3112, SirCakez wrote:yeah but have you gotten any good vibes? i usually get them from Inf and they aren't here
I think I got some early on
Oh yeah
What were these?
-_-
I'll try to find them, but you don't seem like you're very receptive based on how you asked
Why would I ask if I didn't want to know?
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:01 am
by petapan
VOTE: dunnstral
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:02 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3151, SirCakez wrote:Peta attacked me for saying Infinity's low WIM was scummy but it just doesn't feel town here. This game isn't toxic, there's a lot of material to work with, I don't think it's IRL related. So why is Infinity barely playing?
hrrrrm
tbh I feel kinda out of it myself rn, I kinda feel dissociated from the game
which isn't the worst thing because I'm kinda trying to work thru some shit regarding getting over-invested in games, but I'd rather have a balance vs. being either all-in or way-out
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:04 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 3161, SirCakez wrote:i was reviewing and my Toog tinfoil is probably wrong because the main two people pushing him were Gamma and Unwnd who aren't at the top of my scumpile atm
so yeah
wdym your toog tinfoil
why would people you aren't SRing pushing someone result in rethinking that person being scum? That seems to be the thing you're saying based on context clues
You were pretty much about 'Toog being scum' early on and now you're at them being null and even some posts that read like you think they're town? Why? What changed
With Toog - they are just trying so little that it almost feels too scummy to be scum, you know? And I have this instinct that scum is in the higher-activity players and they want to use Toog as a freelim when we can gain a lot more information by flipping someone who's active and controversial. Where does a Toog flip leave us regardless of alignment? Nowhere really.
And my other stronger scumreads all have Toog as someone they'd like to elim and it just feels wrong - someone else agreed with me on this I forget who.
oh this is why the tinfoil was a thing
why do you feel like scum are higher-activity generally? I'd maybe look at people who are more engaged now than they were in previous events, but I don't think that label fits anyone rn.
In post 3151, SirCakez wrote:This game isn't toxic, there's a lot of material to work with, I don't think it's IRL related. So why is Infinity barely playing?
first of all i'm not barely playing
second of all i did talk about this to skitter towards the beginning of the game. i took a break from mafia and i feel a lot more relaxed and less emotionally invested in this game than others. it's a good thing and it lets me enjoy the game more but i might not towntell as much (though i'm not suspected as much as usual eithe
yeah, this tracks and if cakez doesn't adjust course based off of this I'm gonna start having a real problem
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:12 am
by unwnd
Just have Dunn/Toog shoot at each other imo
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:15 am
by petapan
this is actually me playing 5D chess to manipulate the wagonomics for both of them to be in the lead
You were pretty much about 'Toog being scum' early on and now you're at them being null and even some posts that read like you think they're town? Why? What changed
With Toog - they are just trying so little that it almost feels too scummy to be scum, you know? And I have this instinct that scum is in the higher-activity players and they want to use Toog as a freelim when we can gain a lot more information by flipping someone who's active and controversial. Where does a Toog flip leave us regardless of alignment? Nowhere really.
And my other stronger scumreads all have Toog as someone they'd like to elim and it just feels wrong - someone else agreed with me on this I forget who.
oh this is why the tinfoil was a thing
why do you feel like scum are higher-activity generally? I'd maybe look at people who are more engaged now than they were in previous events, but I don't think that label fits anyone rn.
I kinda already talked w Peta and Unwind about this but it was just a theory I had based on my scum reads that doesn't really hold water
In post 83, Infinity 324 wrote:pooky is saying that they didn't read prism's "acquitted" post here. i was responding to the "hiding that they did" idea
nono i was saying prism might have been hiding their thoughts with regards to the chair, sorry
ok so if i got this right your thought process is:
prism and pooky both are thinking that it could be good to get voted here
pooky has an inutitive theory (the king theory) whereas prism's seems much less intuitive to you
therefore, prism could be scum who does not want to mention the more intuitive theory because it's actually the correct theory?
In post 94, Infinity 324 wrote:i think shiki is almost definitely town if the vote is not just an elimination or something similar to it
This seems like a reasonable approach to shiki's thinking
In post 458, Ydrasse wrote:the implication in voting pooky for me is that there’s scum in peta/prism
gamma said that he was partly thinking from scum!pooky's perspective with those scumreads right? like "these are people who look scummy on the surface so scum!pooky is likely to scumread them". that's how i interpreted it.
i agree that it's weird to then vote peta. but none of this seems like a great idea as scum
i don't really townread him that strongly either though so i guess it's not too important
@saber a thought process that you don't understand on the surface is more likely to be genuine imo
the read on me seems fairly evaluated, I don't exactly sense intent to pocket or some other agenda
In post 557, Infinity 324 wrote:prism is town i think, she doesn't need to put this much energy into justifying herself as scum
PEdit: lol
deviating from the intent of this post because I do wonder what happened to this read?
In post 614, Infinity 324 wrote:prism mentioning her read rate on gamma + gamma trying to claim his read on pooky was partly a meme + i realized the arguments i was using to defend gamma were similar to the ones i was using when i was his scumbuddy
In post 3320, Gamma Emerald wrote:deviating from the intent of this post because I do wonder what happened to this read
you being towny makes prism slot scummier, also everyone else did townier stuff
that doesn't feel sound but I also don't think there's an explicit flaw in your argument
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:08 am
by Saber
Dunnstral/Toogeloo isn't the worst result in the world. I think Toogeloo is >random-contestant but at the end of the day they're doing absolutely nothing for the contestants and it's not like what they're doing is hard to fake by any means. It's hard to justify them making it to endgame basically.
Dunnstral has just been somewhat lacking and may have sliped about secret insider stagehand info in the first phase, and may also be the reason Pooky died.
