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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:33 am
by Sleepless Assassin
In post 3298, Fun and Games wrote:I mean we are but i dont think that's great reasoning for it

~ skitter
His buddy has to know he's going down and probably doesn't want to risk associatives as the lone remaining scum.

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:34 am
by Fun and Games
Enchant isnt the sort of player to utilize 'reverse psychology' as scum. Like your reasoning makes some level of sense if he's the sort of player to think out his every play but that's not how he's playing. He's impulsive and troll-y. That's exactly the sort of player that lolclaims scum

And i think its really silly to suggest that he saw gamma get into trouble for playing that way and then *choosing to play that way* anyways, just why

Also i've actually seen scum-enchant play, and he took the game rather seriously and less troll-y than he's doung here

@ vp

~ skitter

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:34 am
by Toogeloo
In post 3275, Fun and Games wrote:
In post 3270, Sleepless Assassin wrote:Scum is much more likely to claim scum than town is
I actually disagree with this premise, and think the opposite. Why do u think this?

~ skitter
Scum will absolutely give the town the finger in the face of a conflicted lynch and claim Mafia, daring people to flip them or wifom them into another direction. The only way claiming scum isn't playing against your win in is if you are actually scum.

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:35 am
by Fun and Games
In post 3300, Sleepless Assassin wrote:
In post 3298, Fun and Games wrote:I mean we are but i dont think that's great reasoning for it

~ skitter
His buddy has to know he's going down and probably doesn't want to risk associatives as the lone remaining scum.
This also assumes enchant-scum whicu in my mind is relatively likely to be a faulty assumption

~ skitter

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:36 am
by Fun and Games
In post 3302, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 3275, Fun and Games wrote:
In post 3270, Sleepless Assassin wrote:Scum is much more likely to claim scum than town is
I actually disagree with this premise, and think the opposite. Why do u think this?

~ skitter
Scum will absolutely give the town the finger in the face of a conflicted lynch and claim Mafia, daring people to flip them or wifom them into another direction. The only way claiming scum isn't playing against your win in is if you are actually scum.
Why on earth does he just note egg on the vp/us fight instead of doing this ...

~ skitter

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:36 am
by Toogeloo
If Enchant wants to game throw as town or scum, they claim Mafia. The only difference is the wifom benefit from scum perspective.

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:37 am
by Toogeloo
I don't give a shit why Enchant does what Enchant does. My reason for being on them isn't even relevant to their gameplay.

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:38 am
by Sleepless Assassin
In post 3303, Fun and Games wrote:
In post 3300, Sleepless Assassin wrote:
In post 3298, Fun and Games wrote:I mean we are but i dont think that's great reasoning for it

~ skitter
His buddy has to know he's going down and probably doesn't want to risk associatives as the lone remaining scum.
This also assumes enchant-scum whicu in my mind is relatively likely to be a faulty assumption

~ skitter
I'm not assuming. He already told us he's scum

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:39 am
by Fun and Games
I mean you're assuming that's a true statement

~ skitter

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:39 am
by Sleepless Assassin
In post 3308, Fun and Games wrote:I mean you're assuming that's a true statement

~ skitter
I still don't see why he'd lie

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:40 am
by Toogeloo
Lynch all liars.... Duh.

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:41 am
by Fun and Games
I cant imagine why he would truthfully claim such a thing either

~ skitter

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:42 am
by Toogeloo
Win/win

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:42 am
by Enchant
I am not mafia.

I noticed pattern, where regardless of argumentation, i made up Guilty.

I am scum because i didn't talk with DArby.
I am scum because i hammered DArby.
I am scum because i hammered Gamma (well it's kinda bad i acknowlidge that)
*Insert any action performed by me and VP WILL call this scum action, as well as SP.*

It's impossible to have only one color (unless do it very on purpose).
But VP and SM can only notice bad actions, they simple don't consider or fail to see any town evidence on me.

They don't want to kill scum, they want to KILL ME.

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:45 am
by VP Baltar
In post 3313, Enchant wrote:town evidence on me.
What's the town evidence on you?

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:47 am
by Dwlee99
In post 3265, Fun and Games wrote:
In post 3222, Dwlee99 wrote:Main reason has been Pooky jumping on me for voting enchant

The push reasoning was when I was just getting the vibe from the push and I think pooky removed/ignored context to paint VP scum with associatives
Ok, a few followups:

- why is bad that pooky was pushing you for voting enchant
- i basically feel like vp is doing exactly what you're accusing pooky of: removing context in order to further a narrative
- remind me: if we're bussing vp why cant you help us do that again?

~ skitter
1.) It was chainsaw
2.) With what?
3.) Probability you're scum and vp is scum is less than probability you're scum

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:47 am
by Dwlee99
In post 3271, Fun and Games wrote:
In post 3247, Dwlee99 wrote:Pooky, multiple times throughout your fight with VP he pointed out ways he thought you ignored context in much of your case

Do you have any thoughts on that

Is it unreasonable for me to think VP is right
Ok multiple times throughout my fight with vp i pointed out ways i thought he ignored context in much of my case

Do u have any thoughts on that?

~ skitter
I thought VP's argument was better

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:49 am
by Dwlee99
In post 3301, Fun and Games wrote:Enchant isnt the sort of player to utilize 'reverse psychology' as scum. Like your reasoning makes some level of sense if he's the sort of player to think out his every play but that's not how he's playing. He's impulsive and troll-y. That's exactly the sort of player that lolclaims scum

And i think its really silly to suggest that he saw gamma get into trouble for playing that way and then *choosing to play that way* anyways, just why

Also i've actually seen scum-enchant play, and he took the game rather seriously and less troll-y than he's doung here

@ vp

~ skitter
Metabadmetabadmetabad

I swear every time someone goes "<player> does(n't) do X as <alignment>" not only is meta already bad, I have an example where the opposite is true

White flag mafia Enchant hammered his scum buddy super "lol"y, something Pooky should remember given he lost in ELO by thinking Enchant was town

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:50 am
by Fun and Games
1. Chainsaw of enchant? So you're positing that we're scum with enchant?
2. He's repeatedly putting words in my mouth and reframing what i'm saying in the worst possible light. He did ghe former 20 minutes ago on the prior page, for example
3. I thought the whole premise of ur issue with our vp push is that we look like we're bussing him

~ skitter

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:50 am
by Dwlee99
Hydra read: town!Pooky/skitter would have had that conversation

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:50 am
by Fun and Games
In post 3317, Dwlee99 wrote:Metabadmetabadmetabad
That's a very side point and you're ignoring the core of my argument, ty

~ skitter

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:50 am
by Enchant
In post 3314, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 3313, Enchant wrote:town evidence on me.
What's the town evidence on you?
"Prove you are town"

MY ROLE IS GREEN

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:51 am
by Enchant
Like really, there's almost zero mafia motivation in all my moves.

Unless i am superbusseridiot.

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:51 am
by Fun and Games
In post 3319, Dwlee99 wrote:Hydra read: town!Pooky/skitter would have had that conversation
We didnt, and we're town, and I imagine id i were scum with enchant someone would have pointed that out to me before i start defending him

~ skitter

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:52 am
by Fun and Games
In post 3317, Dwlee99 wrote:White flag mafia Enchant hammered his scum buddy super "lol"y, something Pooky should remember given he lost in ELO by thinking Enchant was town
i spent most of wfm saying enchant was scum and nobody listened to me

i changed my mind at elo because my subconcious trolled me with a dream about a talking dolphin

at no point did i think enchant was town cuz he lol hammered a teammate