Posted: Mon May 02, 2022 10:33 am
Enchant was town in all 3 of those.
In post 3281, SCP 682 wrote:love when i am even mildly abusive in games or not even at all just somewhat abrasive i get called out on it immediately but FL does this shit and its a-ok no one cares lol.
joke.
In post 3290, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 3277, Flavor Leaf wrote:And WallFlower to a similar effect, but WallF/Monkey has been my townblock for ages now, and the wild thing is...
People think WallFlower, Monkey, and I are all town.
But we're the 3 that have been mainly pushing Catboi. My thoughts are Catboi's partners are refusing to bus, and there's the other scum in some of the ones that move their vote, like CSF, Toogeloo, Mega, maybe even Tictac.
And that's actually a strong reasoning for ScumCatboi.
this + constantly minimizing my reasons is why I believe Catboi is scum.
Everytime I mention Mastina in some fashion, they always have something to say. This could be because of either a) it's a positioning tactic to pocket Mastina further, b)because Mastina/Catboi are scum together, C) Catboi is pocketed by Mastina.
I was thinking B for a while, and then started to go C, but Catboi has been talking to me like they know Mastina is town. Now you can say Multiball doesn't allow for that. And I see that, however, as scum, 4 in 18 others are scum, and no matter what, town reading is a safe move to do because of that exact defense.
Catboi's insistence on Mastina slot, and minimizing of what I was pushing there in addition to the vote counts is why Catboi is most likely scum.
AFAICT your reasoning is:In post 3292, SCP 682 wrote:no thats completely falseIn post 3287, cassowary wrote:but does he do the same thing as town thoIn post 3276, SCP 682 wrote:enchant does this lurkfuck no reads no solviness shit as scum all the time this is his scum meta thoroughly.
Vote enchant.
Don't believe me? Just read the damn ISO.
the first game i played on this site had not_mafia in it, who enchant has been compared to, and i advocated to vote him over that kind of thing and it turned out he was just trolling town :/
if this is how enchant acts as scum or town, this doesn't mean he's scum just bc he acts like this as scum - annoying as it might be that does make it nai
wow.
Press X to doubt.In post 3194, Nashville Dreams wrote:Excuse you
I worked hard on reading those thirty something pages
And I got a bunch of reads out of it
A few lock town
Some scumbutts
In post 3293, Flavor Leaf wrote:You can also see around the time SPC was on my side, and right before, that Catboi was actively playing up towards SPC. I think this was also a positioning/pocket attempt on SPC.
When SPC turned on Catboi, Catboi started talking down to SPC, and then turned right after to try to play up to them again.
They used the Butter read to do so, something that SPC was connecting Butter and Catboi, but Catboi defended Butter while getting SPC to turn on them as well.
This is why I believe SPC is legitimately pocketed by Catboi. They played directly to them.
This is also helps to minimize me, one of the ones pushing them the hardest, by getting SPC on their side.
In post 3302, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 3290, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 3277, Flavor Leaf wrote:And WallFlower to a similar effect, but WallF/Monkey has been my townblock for ages now, and the wild thing is...
People think WallFlower, Monkey, and I are all town.
But we're the 3 that have been mainly pushing Catboi. My thoughts are Catboi's partners are refusing to bus, and there's the other scum in some of the ones that move their vote, like CSF, Toogeloo, Mega, maybe even Tictac.
And that's actually a strong reasoning for ScumCatboi.
this + constantly minimizing my reasons is why I believe Catboi is scum.
Everytime I mention Mastina in some fashion, they always have something to say. This could be because of either a) it's a positioning tactic to pocket Mastina further, b)because Mastina/Catboi are scum together, C) Catboi is pocketed by Mastina.
I was thinking B for a while, and then started to go C, but Catboi has been talking to me like they know Mastina is town. Now you can say Multiball doesn't allow for that. And I see that, however, as scum, 4 in 18 others are scum, and no matter what, town reading is a safe move to do because of that exact defense.
Catboi's insistence on Mastina slot, and minimizing of what I was pushing there in addition to the vote counts is why Catboi is most likely scum.
In post 3305, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 3293, Flavor Leaf wrote:You can also see around the time SPC was on my side, and right before, that Catboi was actively playing up towards SPC. I think this was also a positioning/pocket attempt on SPC.
When SPC turned on Catboi, Catboi started talking down to SPC, and then turned right after to try to play up to them again.
They used the Butter read to do so, something that SPC was connecting Butter and Catboi, but Catboi defended Butter while getting SPC to turn on them as well.
This is why I believe SPC is legitimately pocketed by Catboi. They played directly to them.
This is also helps to minimize me, one of the ones pushing them the hardest, by getting SPC on their side.
I don't even know what the Enchant case is supposed to be though compared to other lurkers?In post 3282, SCP 682 wrote:hey malcom, lets lim the lurkscum ok? Why are you against enchant?
Wait, to be clear, I don't have additional meta. I just have been bitten by a case with a similar player before but not enchant. I have never played with enchant.In post 3306, Flavor Leaf wrote:The fact that Cassowary has additional meta in addition to the 3 games I just saw Enchant as town doing nothing in means that the lurker case is not enough.
SPC, you could be correct, but the meta case isn't the reason nor what you can do to push them.
I think cass is town. I think her posts often get lost amongst all the noise and then people forget about how her posts are pretty townieIn post 3310, bnuuy wrote:Okay I was thinking cass was kinda floating from bursts of activity but her post on this page changes my mind on that a bit
oh. alright.In post 3309, cassowary wrote:Wait, to be clear, I don't have additional meta. I just have been bitten by a case with a similar player before but not enchant. I have never played with enchant.In post 3306, Flavor Leaf wrote:The fact that Cassowary has additional meta in addition to the 3 games I just saw Enchant as town doing nothing in means that the lurker case is not enough.
SPC, you could be correct, but the meta case isn't the reason nor what you can do to push them.
In post 3312, Wallflower wrote:I think cass is town. I think her posts often get lost amongst all the noise and then people forget about how her posts are pretty townieIn post 3310, bnuuy wrote:Okay I was thinking cass was kinda floating from bursts of activity but her post on this page changes my mind on that a bit
I have a cautious townread on Norwegian.In post 3311, Flavor Leaf wrote:How are people reading Norwegian? I was town reading them a long time ago, but the Nashville push is off to me.
And Catboi has also kinda been not talking about Norwegian even though they thought that they were scum earlier, and the fact that Catboi decided to follow Norwegian there after a while is off to me.
Please don't fade Bnuuy either.In post 3314, bnuuy wrote:Enchant is technically doing things, just not a lot
I think the things they’re doing are a bit scummy
Also consider that catboi has done a similar thing with me and from their posting would not appear to be trying to read me, and I'm obviously not scum with catboi.In post 3316, Wallflower wrote:I have a cautious townread on Norwegian.In post 3311, Flavor Leaf wrote:How are people reading Norwegian? I was town reading them a long time ago, but the Nashville push is off to me.
And Catboi has also kinda been not talking about Norwegian even though they thought that they were scum earlier, and the fact that Catboi decided to follow Norwegian there after a while is off to me.
And yeah I agree with you that Catboi's read progression is not natural (I will probably write up more of a post on this later), but pursuing catboi-scum is important before thinking about what it might mean for other alignments.
well, i didnt read your meta case, so if i misrepped it, im sorry.In post 3319, SCP 682 wrote:k I'm breaking my silence to say that FL is completely misrepresenting both my case and enchant's meta compared to this game.
enchant has subtle tonal tells and activity tells and the way he engages the game
he made solid reads in the game he was in with FL that I was also in -> yes he lurks as both alignments but he lurks in an unsolvy way as scum.
Trying to misrep this meta is probably becoming scum indicative for FL if Enchant flips mafia and not wolf.
Starting to think FL has no morals when it comes to the game and OGId because they are scum throwing anything to win IDFK anymore. I am just tired and don't want to talk when this guy is around because any disagreement = harassment.
To be fair, you didn't say the stuff about the tonal tells before, and have acknowledged here that Enchant lurks as both alignments. Whereas before you responded in outrage to anyone who would say that Enchant lurks as both alignments. I think if you had elaborated on your reasoning (beyond Enchant's activity) before, it would have produced a different response.In post 3319, SCP 682 wrote:k I'm breaking my silence to say that FL is completely misrepresenting both my case and enchant's meta compared to this game.
enchant has subtle tonal tells and activity tells and the way he engages the game
he made solid reads in the game he was in with FL that I was also in -> yes he lurks as both alignments but he lurks in an unsolvy way as scum.
Trying to misrep this meta is probably becoming scum indicative for FL if Enchant flips mafia and not wolf.
Starting to think FL has no morals when it comes to the game and OGId because they are scum throwing anything to win IDFK anymore. I am just tired and don't want to talk when this guy is around because any disagreement = harassment.
Also, funny how this comes about immediately after thread calmed down, and we were actually analyzing slots like Norwegian and casing Catboi scum.In post 3319, SCP 682 wrote:k I'm breaking my silence to say that FL is completely misrepresenting both my case and enchant's meta compared to this game.
enchant has subtle tonal tells and activity tells and the way he engages the game
he made solid reads in the game he was in with FL that I was also in -> yes he lurks as both alignments but he lurks in an unsolvy way as scum.
Trying to misrep this meta is probably becoming scum indicative for FL if Enchant flips mafia and not wolf.
Starting to think FL has no morals when it comes to the game and OGId because they are scum throwing anything to win IDFK anymore. I am just tired and don't want to talk when this guy is around because any disagreement = harassment.