One doesn't apologize for attempting to lynch scum as town. Express regret for mislynching or being led astray after the game, yes. I'd agree to disagree on this, except:
Rats ass about Pidgey meant Kise's attempt to say AtE was similar
But keep thinking you solved this game Penguin. I enjoy it when people get super excited and then have the happiness drain from their faces.
Lynch me now. You've already made up your mind about me. You are just prolonging the inevitable.
Do it before I become even more spiteful and lynch myself.
How about you actually do your job and post a VC once in awhile.
Ya... That'd be awesome.
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 12:46 pm
by penguin_alien
That was me making the comparison, actually. And given that if I choose wrong it's the end of my time in the game, I don't care to rush the decision. And I want to know what Jason is thinking currently.
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 12:48 pm
by Oversoul
Fine. Ring me when you actually want to know my opinions instead of shelving them into a box labeled scum.
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 12:48 pm
by chkflip
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 12:53 pm
by Oversoul
Clearly you do if you actually did it, but okay.
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 12:54 pm
by penguin_alien
If I was certain you were scum, I'd've voted. If you have other arguments about Kise or someone else being scum, I'm listening. Reading your ISO and Kise's showed both of you as being similarly on the ball WRT Mafia members, so it's not clear-cut to me.
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 1:13 pm
by Oversoul
Hey, Chk
How easy do you think it is to find a replacement for a 130 page game for a slot that is about to be lynched?
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 1:26 pm
by Oversoul
That wasn't a replace out post by the way
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 3:18 pm
by JasonWazza
UNVOTE: Kise
VOTE: Oversoul
Yeah i'm pretty certain of OS scum at this point.
Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 9:30 am
by penguin_alien
Just looking at Kise and OS ISOs from this past game day, Kise is making cases and OS is pretty much just defending. I don't see an argument about Kise being scum aside from saying Kise is wrong about OS being scum.
Intent to hammer in 24 hours pending:
Kise, if we're wrong about OS, where do you think scum is?
OS, where is your case on Kise or whoever your leading suspect is?
Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 9:43 am
by Oversoul
In post 3338, penguin_alien wrote:Just looking at Kise and OS ISOs from this past game day, Kise is making cases and OS is pretty much just defending. I don't see an argument about Kise being scum aside from saying Kise is wrong about OS being scum.
Intent to hammer in 24 hours pending:
Kise, if we're wrong about OS, where do you think scum is?
OS, where is your case on Kise or whoever your leading suspect is?
I really don't have any interest in making a case at this point because I won't be alive to push it and all it would be is a waste of personal time that could be better spend elsewhere like playing video games or watching TV.
:shrug:
I honestly have no idea anymore.
I don't think you are scum and if you are we will know tonight.
I don't think Baby is scum because of the claim + flavor surrounding her.
If I had preference it would be Kise > Jason.
I think Kise was the one who originally supported that Baby could be a town bomb by connecting the flavor of Dr Dre and his CD which is interesting given the fact that Kise is now saying Baby was likely rolecopped BEFORE the CD and Dr Dre bit was known to town and Kise supporting that means he would have likely had that information.
Jason because he has done absolutely nothing today and is pretty much just coasting.
But you know, my plan of no lynching twice just to make sure everything would be set in stone is apparently a Bad Idea, but also now against the retroactively added rules!
So yeah.
There's that.
I just want you to look at Kise's case against and tell me that it isn't BS wrapped up nicely to look like it actually means something.
You'd be lucky to get anything out of Kise in the coming days because of the Baltimore meet, so just end my misery and lynch me.
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 6:50 am
by Kise
I'm actually in Georgia. Not sure when I'll be in B-more but yeah that's gonna be another time consuming adventure
@peng, one of OS or Jason. I've gone back at least twice since I was last online and I feel confident in that.
@OS, I was actually weighing you or Jason. I'm not as gung ho on lynching you as I was before, but there's not any talk of Jason at the moment and everyone else is looking your way, and looking at me second.
I DO think this little tension between you and the mod stems from an out-of-thread dispute because this back and forth seems unprovoked, otherwise. I admired that you unvoted me and wanted to talk about what to do today but now my gut is once again saying you are scum out of yourself and Jason. In Adventure Time mafia, Rainbowdash was scum and brought an out-of-thread dispute regarding roles with the mod into the public's eye. What I'm seeing on this page reminds me of RBD, because I don't get why you'd be so quick to ask the mod whether he can find a replacement if the only thing chk did to provoke that was post pictures.
As small as it may be, the "evidence" I would use on Jason is that his character rides in a limo, and that we haven't really seen his character's appearance; we've seen the mailman delivering things but nothing of Jason in the flesh. I was fine with seeing Jason's action and using that to justify my townread of him, but I read the opening post (without skimming for the first time) a few days ago and the limo thing is eye opening to say the least.
If you are lynched today and flip town, I don't have much of anything against Jason other than that. I can't think of why it'd be peng or BS as mafia given how they've been portrayed and seen in the results of Yama and walt. For me, it's you or Jason.
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 6:55 am
by Kise
(what a surprise, a Kise double post!)
I am announcing my intent to hammer OS. If you have anything else to go over, we have 7 days til deadline. 3339 makes me comfortable with hammering but I respect you in case you do want to say more.
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 12:22 pm
by Oversoul
Thank you for allowing that.
I'd be willing to vote Jason. He is decidedly absent from yesterDay and doesn't seem all that worried about the suspicion on him which is unusual given the fact that I as him would be livid. But I'm always livid when I get wagoned.
Re: the mod and stuff, no I don't think there is any out of game thing between me and him. I made a comment about the balance of the game at the top of the page, and he posted that gif. Then I called him out on him doing modding things and he posted that "don't give a fuck picture" which I again called out to which he replied by editing a gif into my post. I made a threat of replacing out because I was annoyed of his harassment, which he took to mean was literal and then posted a replacement request in the official thread. I don't know where I stand in this game as Chk still can force replace me if he wanted. But what he did was entirely unprofessional and rude.
I don't know why he antagonized me, when I was clearly upset in this game, when he hadn't done that to any other player. If Chk has something against me, that is a new development because my comments toward Chk have been entirely within this game.
About your tell, that is a really selective thing and I would be amazed if it worked outside of Rainbowdash as that seems more personality driven than anything. Now that I think about it, that tell may work for Benmage because he has a similar personality when it comes to teaching people a lesson.
So good luck tomorrow, you all will need it.
-BearJew
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 12:25 pm
by JasonWazza
In post 3342, Oversoul wrote:
I'd be willing to vote Jason. He is decidedly absent from yesterDay and doesn't seem all that worried about the suspicion on him which is unusual given the fact that I as him would be livid. But I'm always livid when I get wagoned.
I'm town, why should i be worried?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 12:26 pm
by Oversoul
Why haven't you been more active like the rest of us?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 12:28 pm
by JasonWazza
Considering i pretty much think BS is town, and if P_A doesn't die tonight then it's her.
It's very simply either you or Kise.
Why the fuck do i need to be active to have that pointed out?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 12:33 pm
by Oversoul
Well seeing as you are likely going to be the other possibility tomorrow I would think you would want to show you are town unless you think that would look scummy and instead are trying to play it cool? Which falls in line with your previous statement of "why would I care? I'm town".
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 12:37 pm
by JasonWazza
Ok lets look at me as the perspective as scum for a second.
I have been helping town the entire game, i could have easily pretended my reads were terrible and gave scum my letters.
Why didn't i?
I've pretty much been working towards a town win con this entire time.
Now lets look at Kise, his role just fucks off each and every night, can't be targeted or anything.
Which one is more likely to be pro-scum?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 12:38 pm
by JasonWazza
Not to mention, we already flipped a flavor cop for scum.
How likely is it there is 2 basically full on flavor cops on scums team?
Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 12:43 pm
by Oversoul
I mean that logic goes out the door when you consider Kise is scum for the same reason being a commuter when they have a Nexus and a Ninja and the like?