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A few thoughts. Why has no one called us out on wagon hopping? Why would polarity locking be anti-town?

↑ Perpetual Nonsense wrote:A few thoughts. Why has no one called us out on wagon hopping? Why would polarity locking be anti-town?

never mind that

I realize we caught you for the wrong reasons

Thanks for trying to set us straight

LOL

Anytime.

↑ Perpetual Nonsense wrote:VOTE: jordan

All aboard, guys and girls!

↑ Perpetual Nonsense wrote:A few thoughts. Why has no one called us out on wagon hopping? Why would polarity locking be anti-town?

Does not compute.

VOTE: Perpetual Nonsense

what doesn't compute is that you saw this action, yet only chose now to vote me.

Your jumping onto my wagon based was based on PereV as far as I can tell. That with your implication that you don't think polarity locking would be anti-town doesn't jive. These two things do not make sense together. Please explain.

Take the case where you can lock scum in Light polarity. They effectively become useless against all dark polarity people. So I wouldn't venture to call it anti-town, just often negative utility.
Also, if scum really wanted PV dead (rereading his post right before we voted), then he would have died last night since he is claiming that he is a "governor" based on yesterday's action. Thinking about it, I wonder why PV said that his govern didn't work. Given the current track, it seemed likely that we would be going into all dark polarity, so if he actually wanted to use his ability he would have switched to dark a while ago.

So I have a question, does your polarity lock go into effect before or after your target decides polarity?

Also, lol, we voted cause we saw a wagon. I'm sad we forgot to write "choooooooo".

It locks before polarity changes, which are before other actions.

welp...

idgi
why would pere reveal that his polarity has been locked

Sorry about going MIA, I went to the Fair and didn't get a chance to post. I had a good time, for what it's worth. We saw a bunch of cool exhibits and rode some cool rides. They had a Ferris Wheel where the seats were huge Kraft Mac N Cheese cups. Scared the h#ll out of my wife (Deb) though. I don't think I've ever seen her so freaked before, but she survived, and we didn't laugh at her much!

↑ TiphaineDeath wrote:Also I think it's time for some POE

Given that

Town

Saki
PeregrineV
TiphaineDeath
Perpetual Nonsense
DrippingGoofball
Jon_h61

And

Scum/SK

Xayzeck
RachMarie

then

Undefined=Scum

Jordan_Downey
Sharpest-knife-on-tree

If I am correct on my town reads and pere is right that there are 2-3 scum left then only one of Skot-Xay-JD-Rach can possibly be town, and there might not even be that one.

I think I need to rescind my previous statement, I am cool with votes on any of the above four, but would prefer a xayzeck lynch.

I'm in agreement with most of this. I'd put PN in the undefined group with SKOT. The utility of Jordan's role (Polarity Locker) seems more advantageous for scum than town. I don't see a way that Town could use it to their advantage, it keeps a slot from changing their Polarity.

I'm mostly in agreement with the Town reads. The two I'd most like to see flip is Xayzeck and Jordan. I played with Xayzeck before, and this doesn't feel like his Town game. He really doesn't seem to be trying to scum hunt. He seems more to be adding confusion, rather than helping to out scum.

Feel like voting Xay with me then Jon? Jordan is probably scum but there's also certainly at least two scum left so best case scenario killing him won't stop a night kill, if I'm right and we nail Xay it will.

↑ Saki wrote:idgi
why would pere reveal that his polarity has been locked

Well, if scum wants to kill someone, they either have to
1) shoot and pray the person is the opposite polarity
2) lock them into one and shoot with the other.

And maybe I'm wrong.

↑ Jordan_Downey wrote:Yeah, we locked PV last night. We've been RNG-ing that since D2 because for the life of me I can't figure out why it's a useful role and I'm hoping it does something with someone else's role. Possibly stopping a mafia ability to change someone's alignment.

Randomly targeting players with the use of an ability that is supposed to come from town? No.

↑ Perpetual Nonsense wrote:A few thoughts. Why has no one called us out on wagon hopping? Why would polarity locking be anti-town?

You'll probably have to explain the difference between wagon-hopping and changing your vote.

I feel like this has been happening every day all game and now Xay is going to kill me tonight, I am not happy.

↑ TiphaineDeath wrote:I feel like this has been happening every day all game and now Xay is going to kill me tonight, I am not happy.

Titus had you as town.

Duo had you as town.

Zdenek/KiGi had you as town.

And you lived through all that.

At a guess, you won't die tonight.

↑ TiphaineDeath wrote:Feel like voting Xay with me then Jon? Jordan is probably scum but there's also certainly at least two scum left so best case scenario killing him won't stop a night kill, if I'm right and we nail Xay it will.

I was waiting on something from Xayzeck, but it doesn't look like it's forth coming. I'd consider it, but right now I'm liking my vote where it is. I don't know if Xayzeck's an SK, but I'd bet he isn't Town.

@ Jordan Are you willing to share what you've done with your Power since the start? What did you see yourself trying to accomplish with it? Did you have any success? When you lock someone's Polarity, do you pick what Polarity they are? Do you see why I have a hard time seeing your slot as a Town aligned role?

Sure I'm willing to claim my targets going back to the beginning.

I locked Mastinhero N1.
I locked TD N2.
I locked Titus N3.
I locked PerV N4.
I plan to lock someone new tonight.

I have no knowledge, or choice, of the polarity when I lock it. Honestly, I've been a bit baffled as to what my power is supposed to do. My best guess is that scum has some method of manipulating the polarity of others, and my role is intended to dick with that. Possibly there is some role that interacts with mine to some benefit. I have no idea if any of the missing kills are because I got lucky, nor do I know if I helped with killing Titus. If anyone I lock flips without the locked modifier then we'll know that I was useful. Otherwise, I have no way of knowing. I don't know how other people see my role, given the bias of the PM saying town bulb sent me, but the power is confusing as hell and I can't wait until the game is over to figure out what it was supposed to do.

↑ Jordan_Downey wrote:Sure I'm willing to claim my targets going back to the beginning.

I locked Mastinhero N1.
I locked TD N2.
I locked Titus N3.
I locked PerV N4.
I plan to lock someone new tonight.

I have no knowledge, or choice, of the polarity when I lock it. Honestly, I've been a bit baffled as to what my power is supposed to do. My best guess is that scum has some method of manipulating the polarity of others, and my role is intended to dick with that. Possibly there is some role that interacts with mine to some benefit. I have no idea if any of the missing kills are because I got lucky, nor do I know if I helped with killing Titus. If anyone I lock flips without the locked modifier then we'll know that I was useful. Otherwise, I have no way of knowing. I don't know how other people see my role, given the bias of the PM saying town bulb sent me, but the power is confusing as hell and I can't wait until the game is over to figure out what it was supposed to do.

You can improve your scumgame by doing your homework. Your partner already claimed locked on day2.

↑ Titus wrote:Well I'm dark locked if it helps you any.

At least I won't have to post on my vacation if it's a real vig.

And, still not a town use of your power.

I'll yell at the RNG later to take into account claims.

What would you suggest I do with my power? I'm open to thoughts on how to use it better.

Although, yeah, that means odds are I've been useless this game.

↑ Jordan_Downey wrote:I'll yell at the RNG later to take into account claims.

That would be you, the player, that would do that. Just like I'm sure you didn't include dead people or the "no one tonight" categories in your "list".

↑ Jordan_Downey wrote:What would you suggest I do with my power? I'm open to thoughts on how to use it better.

Locking scummy players into their polarity seems the smartest thing. Or, just NOT using it until either of you can figure out the best town use for it, if any.

Looking at this back and forth I think you're operating under the impression that the lock is permanent. It only stops polarity changing on that night.

↑ PeregrineV wrote:

↑ Jordan_Downey wrote:I'll yell at the RNG later to take into account claims.

That would be you, the player, that would do that. Just like I'm sure you didn't include dead people or the "no one tonight" categories in your "list".

↑ Jordan_Downey wrote:What would you suggest I do with my power? I'm open to thoughts on how to use it better.

Locking scummy players into their polarity seems the smartest thing. Or, just NOT using it until either of you can figure out the best town use for it, if any.

There's this handy list in Post 1 that reads Alive players, because our mod is good at doing his job. I used that. I was attempting to use it like a jailkeeper in a game I wasn't paying enough attention to. Was RNGing it a good idea? Probably not. Was it worse than not using it at all? Maybe. I still think there was a reason behind my role, and will continue attempting to figure it out unapologetically.