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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:40 am
by Gammagooey
In post 3270, Transcend wrote:I guess I need to keep in mind that MoI is lynchbait most likely. I played one game with him, somehow he ate a lynch when RC was campaigning on another lynch. It's very rare for RC to not get his way.
(this is at hiplop too)
MoI absolutely isn't lynchbait in given my games with him, he puts in more than enough effort for people to townread him most of the time and really the only personality-based reason why he might get lynched even a little more often than normal (which I don't think is even actually the case) is that he's the most condescending player on the entire site.

I really want to at least start narrowing the wagons down to feasible ones before a couple days before deadline instead of dealing with the clusterfuck that looks likely if things keep going as they are now, and unvoting because of a fast wagon is retarded unless you actually think there's any chance of him being quicklynched. If there are actually new people joining the DS wagon that haven't been on it before, then fine, but if there AREN'T I really want to see everyone who thinks MoI is likely scum on the MoI wagon to see if it can actually happen today instead of finding out later 'oh yeah most of the game doesn't want to lynch either of MoI or DS guess we're prob no lynching or throwing votes out on whoever we think can actually get lynched today'

Also I think it was spiffeh who said this a while ago but DS's pushes for really stupid reasons earlier in the game I'm pretty sure are things he thinks are at least somewhat close to correct regardless of his actual alignment, I don't think those are any more likely to actually come from scum than town.

@SnarkySnowman- Why do you think MoI is town?

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:43 am
by Firebringer
In post 3325, Gammagooey wrote:
In post 3270, Transcend wrote:I guess I need to keep in mind that MoI is lynchbait most likely. I played one game with him, somehow he ate a lynch when RC was campaigning on another lynch. It's very rare for RC to not get his way.
(this is at hiplop too)
MoI absolutely isn't lynchbait in given my games with him, he puts in more than enough effort for people to townread him most of the time and really the only personality-based reason why he might get lynched even a little more often than normal (which I don't think is even actually the case) is that he's the most condescending player on the entire site.

I really want to at least start narrowing the wagons down to feasible ones before a couple days before deadline instead of dealing with the clusterfuck that looks likely if things keep going as they are now, and unvoting because of a fast wagon is retarded unless you actually think there's any chance of him being quicklynched. If there are actually new people joining the DS wagon that haven't been on it before, then fine, but if there AREN'T I really want to see everyone who thinks MoI is likely scum on the MoI wagon to see if it can actually happen today instead of finding out later 'oh yeah most of the game doesn't want to lynch either of MoI or DS guess we're prob no lynching or throwing votes out on whoever we think can actually get lynched today'

Also I think it was spiffeh who said this a while ago but DS's pushes for really stupid reasons earlier in the game I'm pretty sure are things he thinks are at least somewhat close to correct regardless of his actual alignment, I don't think those are any more likely to actually come from scum than town.

@SnarkySnowman- Why do you think MoI is town?
Bad post.

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:46 am
by Gammagooey
someone asked why I thought hiplop was town too

I just really think this feels like the hiplop I've seen before in other games, and he's even more motivated and is trying harder than in the other games I've played with him too. He really seems like he's trying to actually find and lynch scum and it just feels really, really town to me.

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:46 am
by Gammagooey
In post 3326, Firebringer wrote:
In post 3325, Gammagooey wrote:words
Bad post.
bad player

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:48 am
by Firebringer
In post 3328, Gammagooey wrote:
In post 3326, Firebringer wrote:
In post 3325, Gammagooey wrote:words
Bad post.
bad player
Your onto me.

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:49 am
by SnowStorm
In post 3323, Cephrir wrote:
In post 3313, SnowStorm wrote:Dumb question. He was on TTH's game. Anyway, that kind of gambit falls perfectly in line with his playstyle and personality and it is really not out of this world to question a guilty result with no full claim coming from him. I mean, I'd question a claim like that form anyone, the fact that it was FB claiming the guilty makes it even more questionable.

There's no way any sane player should follow a claim like that blindly. And yet people are scum reading the only guy who stopped to think and ask for a full claim.
a) wow i guess 10 of us are insane
b) no one was lynching him without a claim
I mean a full claim from Firebringer, Spiffeh had already claimed. And maybe you're not insane but you did follow a guilty claim from someone with no credibility without questioning it, that doesn't speak well of you.

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:54 am
by Firebringer
Let us hope on the snowstorm train!

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:56 am
by Cephrir
In post 3327, Gammagooey wrote:someone asked why I thought hiplop was town too

I just really think this feels like the hiplop I've seen before in other games, and he's even more motivated and is trying harder than in the other games I've played with him too. He really seems like he's trying to actually find and lynch scum and it just feels really, really town to me.
are we talking about the same hiplop

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:58 am
by Firebringer
Probably talking about hiphop who is not in this game.

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:08 am
by Gammagooey
Cephrir wrote:
In post 3327, Gammagooey wrote:someone asked why I thought hiplop was town too

I just really think this feels like the hiplop I've seen before in other games, and he's even more motivated and is trying harder than in the other games I've played with him too. He really seems like he's trying to actually find and lynch scum and it just feels really, really town to me.
are we talking about the same hiplop
yeah he does a lot of one-line posts

he's still posting a fuckton and commenting on pretty much everything that's been going on.

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:10 am
by Grib
In post 3327, Gammagooey wrote:someone asked why I thought hiplop was town too

I just really think this feels like the hiplop I've seen before in other games, and he's even more motivated and is trying harder than in the other games I've played with him too. He really seems like he's trying to actually find and lynch scum and it just feels really, really town to me.
??? Where are you seeing this.

Can you cite a couple posts?

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:38 am
by Aristophanes
*Note to self*
At page 127, will have to read up tomorrow.

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:03 am
by Gammagooey
In post 3335, Grib wrote:
In post 3327, Gammagooey wrote:someone asked why I thought hiplop was town too

I just really think this feels like the hiplop I've seen before in other games, and he's even more motivated and is trying harder than in the other games I've played with him too. He really seems like he's trying to actually find and lynch scum and it just feels really, really town to me.
??? Where are you seeing this.

Can you cite a couple posts?
tbh I doubt you're going to actually agree with me on this, I know it probably feels like a stretch if you haven't played with hiplop before

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
^this is hiplop's iso from buzzfeed mafia - the game only lasted two days due to a modkill d1, but it feels like hiplop is attacking people here in the same way and seems more concerned than I'm used to seeing about who gets lynched here, I expected him to be even more flippant than he actually is. If you still want individual posts I can go through his iso later tonight but it's a lot more of a general feel of his play in comparison to previous games with him.

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:27 am
by DiamondSentinel
Due to popular demand, my readlists are back.


Obvious Town/Confirmed Town:
Possible MJ. So they stay hesitantly in this spot.

Town:
Snowstorm (made a surprising turnaround from his slot. But still a bit apprehensive)
Cephrir
Zulfy
Aristophanes

Null!Town:
Transcend
GammaGooey
MagnaOfIllusion
SnarkySnowman
Grib

Null:
Spiffeh

Null!Scum:
Hiplop

Scum:
Firebringer
Bro

I'll make longer posts in a bit.

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:30 am
by Firebringer
In post 3338, DiamondSentinel wrote:Town:
Snowstorm (made a surprising turnaround from his slot. But still a bit apprehensive)
Is he town for you because he agrees with you or what?

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:33 am
by DiamondSentinel
No, he's town because he's actually producing content and thinking. If you've noticed, there are more than a couple people on the town list that don't agree with me.

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:33 am
by Spiffeh
So yeah we're lynching DS

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:35 am
by Spiffeh
The kdowns slot skyrockets up his readslist when Snowstorm starts defending him

And I go from unlynchable to null when I start pushing him

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:37 am
by DiamondSentinel
1. kdowns was scum because he wasn't doing jack shit. I'm allowed to amend a slot when someone replaces in.

2. If that were the case, then why would Cephrir, who has been on my case the entire game, be one of my stronger town reads? No, you slipped down the second you started making these shitty logic jumps that you are now, and have only continued to do so since I read your reaction to the readtest. I must agree with Firebringer that it was a pretty poor reaction. Although it didn't seem it at the time.

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:38 am
by Firebringer
In post 3340, DiamondSentinel wrote:No, he's town because he's actually producing content and thinking. If you've noticed, there are more than a couple people on the town list that don't agree with me.
I am not saying all your reads are people who agree with you, but the person who you "flipped" is someone who basically is hard defending you and agreeing with alot of what you are saying.

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:38 am
by Firebringer
In post 3342, Spiffeh wrote:The kdowns slot skyrockets up his readslist when Snowstorm starts defending him

And I go from unlynchable to null when I start pushing him
Yeah see, this is my problem.

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:40 am
by Spiffeh
In post 3344, Firebringer wrote:I am not saying all your reads are people who agree with you, but the person who you "flipped" is someone who basically is hard defending you and agreeing with alot of what you are saying.

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:44 am
by Spiffeh
In post 3343, DiamondSentinel wrote:No, you slipped down the second you started making these shitty logic jumps that you are now, and have only continued to do so since I read your reaction to the readtest. I must agree with Firebringer that it was a pretty poor reaction. Although it didn't seem it at the time.
Lol this is the biggest load of bullshit I have ever read

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:45 am
by DiamondSentinel
Then answer this, FB. Can you deny that they are making infinitely more content than KDowns did?

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:48 am
by Firebringer
In post 3343, DiamondSentinel wrote:2. If that were the case, then why would Cephrir, who has been on my case the entire game, be one of my stronger town reads? No, you slipped down the second you started making these shitty logic jumps that you are now, and have only continued to do so since I read your reaction to the readtest. I must agree with Firebringer that it was a pretty poor reaction. Although it didn't seem it at the time.
Why the fuck are you continually trying to strawman me?