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Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 3:19 am
by Ankamius
(ftr mbaki and RC both supporting this should be a red flag for everybody)

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 3:20 am
by BrightEyedFish
In post 3324, Ankamius wrote:But I will say this.

If this slot is lynched and flips double town, there is absolutely a deepwolf and there is a lot of scum equity in the slots that had this pairing as a compromise pairing as well as the ones that pushed it.

I take back the never CaF me but 24 hours is kinda steep for me
Are you talking about your pairing or oka/me because you are voting us?

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 3:21 am
by Ankamius
Mine

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 3:28 am
by BrightEyedFish
In post 3327, Ankamius wrote:Mine

I don't like voting your slot. Still don't TR Clem very much though.

So... UNVOTE:

Now I'll repost the pairings, maybe a new look at it will help you see a better lynch option because I am not really feeling any of the wagons going on right now:
In post 2752, BNL wrote:
Here are the pairings for the Dance:

Player 1Player 2
RadiantCowbells0verki11
mbakiNanceFloor
OkaPokaBrightEyedFish
Time Devilthemilkcartonkid
AnkamiusClemency
CreatureChemist1422
TalyJohnnyEnglish
chennisdenTitus

I think we should go for one of these 2 slots:
chenn/titus
Time/tmck

Let's try to start this before we run out of time, or the current wagons will be stuck between voting each other for survival:

VOTE: chennisden/Titus

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 3:45 am
by mbaki
In post 3321, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 3320, mbaki wrote:Why are you sheeping me if you think I'm scum?
I think you're scum???
So why are you sheeping me?

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 3:47 am
by BrightEyedFish
In post 3329, mbaki wrote:
In post 3321, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 3320, mbaki wrote:Why are you sheeping me if you think I'm scum?
I think you're scum???
So why are you sheeping me?
I'm not, currently.
Why does it bother you if I were to?

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 3:48 am
by mbaki
In post 3325, Ankamius wrote:(ftr mbaki and RC both supporting this should be a red flag for everybody)
This post is actually the red flag for me. Assume I support your lynch, which I pretty staunchly didn't.
In post 3231, Ankamius wrote:Town:
RadiantCowbells
mbaki
themilkcartonkid
You have RC and I as your top two town reads, above the IC. And it is a red flag we both support this? Even though we are your top two town reads?

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 3:49 am
by mbaki
In post 3330, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 3329, mbaki wrote:
In post 3321, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 3320, mbaki wrote:Why are you sheeping me if you think I'm scum?
I think you're scum???
So why are you sheeping me?
I'm not, currently.
Why does it bother you if I were to?
Because sheeping your scum read is whack?

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 3:50 am
by mbaki
In post 2788, mbaki wrote:{RC, Overkill}
{Creature, Chem}
{Oka, BEF}
{Chen, Titus}
{Ank, Clem}
And you
were
pretty statedly my least favorite lynch out of the 5 pairings that we are lynching in. I don't like your desperation / weird defense you're doing now at all.

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 3:51 am
by mbaki
VOTE: RC and Overkill

its not going to happen, but I can dream

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 3:52 am
by BrightEyedFish
In post 3332, mbaki wrote:
In post 3330, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 3329, mbaki wrote:
In post 3321, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 3320, mbaki wrote:Why are you sheeping me if you think I'm scum?
I think you're scum???
So why are you sheeping me?
I'm not, currently.
Why does it bother you if I were to?
Because sheeping your scum read is whack?
Don't flatter yourself. You're not my top scum read. In fact I have no interest in lynching you atm.

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 3:53 am
by Ankamius
In post 3331, mbaki wrote:
In post 3325, Ankamius wrote:(ftr mbaki and RC both supporting this should be a red flag for everybody)
This post is actually the red flag for me. Assume I support your lynch, which I pretty staunchly didn't.
In post 3231, Ankamius wrote:Town:
RadiantCowbells
mbaki
themilkcartonkid
You have RC and I as your top two town reads, above the IC. And it is a red flag we both support this? Even though we are your top two town reads?
The read order is not order of strength

And yes, it is a red flag that RC has been supporting a lynch on this pairing all game and you are recently saying that the wagon on this wagon is the best one, which is a very passive way of supporting the wagon

You don't find it remotely bizarre that the slot you suspect as the deepwolf has been supporting this all day?

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 3:53 am
by BrightEyedFish
In post 3334, mbaki wrote:VOTE: RC and Overkill

its not going to happen, but I can dream
Initiating Sheeping Sequence in 1... 2... 3...

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 4:05 am
by mbaki
In post 3269, BNL wrote:
Vote Count 2.2.7Creature/Chemist1422 (5): , , , ,
Ankamius/Clemency (4): , , ,
OkaPoka/BrightEyedFish (4): , , ,

Not Voting (3): Taly, Chemist1422,

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a pair.

The deadline for elimination is 9 May 11:00am UTC-4, or in (expired on 2019-05-09 11:00:00)

Mod Notes:
Seeking replacement for Taly. Deadline is frozen until a replacement is found, and it will be reset to 48 hours.
The Creature wagon is a pairing, a town, and a scumread
The Ank wagon is 2 town, a null, and somebody self voting
The final wagon is a scumread, a kind of scum read, and two question marks

The best wagon there is Ank / Clem by far. I markedly did not want to lynch you before.

I also don't really care who's voting what though. Because at this stage of the game, there's 13/3, so the odds any random scum read is scum is low. So voting based on who mightb e scum and who's pushing who is dumb. Also, I haven't voted you nor really considered it until your last page of posting.

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 4:08 am
by mbaki
In post 3336, Ankamius wrote:The read order is not order of strength
Ok

so if you think we are both town, as your reads claim, then why should myself and RC both hypothetically supporting your lynch be a red flag to anybody?

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 4:10 am
by Ankamius
You understand how I would come to that conclusion when it starts being a thing when the wagon on my pairing starts to gain any momentum whatsoever right

And I doubt I'm the only person that would see it that way

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 4:11 am
by Ankamius
Because I saw the two slots that have had strong scumreads on each other all day agreeing on another scumread?

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 4:11 am
by Ankamius
Another lynch sorry

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 4:13 am
by mbaki
No, I'm questioning if you're perspective slipping, looking for ways to discredit your wagon, or none of the above.

Perspective slipping: forgetting you've stated RC and I are both strong town and TvT

Discredit: cherrypicking a comment from me and then "hey look these two 1v1ing people both want me dead don't vote me!!"

And both of these are seeming nonzero. Because I don't entirely believe you think I wanted your slot dead, and I don't entirely believe you think it should be a red flag that two of your top town are voting you.

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 4:18 am
by BNL
Vote Count 2.2.9OkaPoka/BrightEyedFish (5): , , , ,
Ankamius/Clemency (4): , , ,
Creature/Chemist1422 (2): ,
chennisden/Titus (1):
RadiantCowbells/0verki11 (1):

Not Voting (3): Taly, Chemist1422,

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a pair.

The deadline for elimination is 9 May 11:00am UTC-4, or in (expired on 2019-05-09 11:00:00)

Mod Notes:
Replacement for Taly found.

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 4:21 am
by BNL
Skygazer
replaces Taly. Please welcome her!

The deadline will be extended to 9 May 11:30am UTC-4, or in (expired on 2019-05-09 11:30:00)

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 4:21 am
by Ankamius
I definitely thought it was more likely that there was scum influence behind the wagon on me because of how people were positioning around it and the way you and RC were both positioning absolutely did not look like TvT to me, and Clemency is already spewed town by the fact that the wagon took off at all anyways despite this (which means it's scum rich if you two ARE TvT, and likely manipulated town if you are TvS or SvS)

So yes, I find the circumstances suspicious as hell, look at the underbelly of what I say rather than my words because my explanations are almost always just the conclusions

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 4:21 am
by Ankamius
Hi sky

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 4:22 am
by Skygazer
hi ank

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 4:24 am
by Ankamius
And btw

I abandon reads on a dime as both alignments