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What about champs that have skins that make your moves significantly harder to see(like lux)

Hogwash, all hogwash, I say

Arcade Sona has visual indicators for when Sona lands her passive W or E on a target. Similar to what Venmar was saying about Arcade Hecarim.

Snowman ziggs is annoying as shit on the ARAM / winter maps because his minefield is basically invisible

I'm getting on. People around?

Give me a few minutes for food and whatnot + shaking off being focused despite being hilariously behind with a fed sion on our team.

↑ Maestro wrote:guuuuuuuuuuys if you ACTUALLY think skins make a difference (besides I guess silly aesthetic stuff like Venmar) you're as dumb as that one guy who made that one thread on the League forums about which skins offer tactical advantages over classics

sorry I can't hear you over the

BUGFIX Fixed a bug where Flamespitter dealt less damage when on purple team

BUGFIX Fixed a bug with Ardent Censer where it was passively granting bonus movement speed to all teammates on the map (don't ask how it happened, it just did).

Those bugs are hilarious

↑ BROseidon wrote:I'm pretty sure it doesn't do anything. Maybe influences your normal MMR, but that's all I can think it does.

It prevents the likliness of you being matched up with that person again. I've used it with this in mind and it's "worked" so far. But I guess it's more of a superstition thing than reality as nothing has come from the word of god about it being true.

↑ Iecerint wrote:Arcade Sona has visual indicators for when Sona lands her passive W or E on a target. Similar to what Venmar was saying about Arcade Hecarim.

Yup. I think it's because of their design.

re: skins that actually make them stronger

headhunter nidalee.

Ok well in that case everybody ganging up on me, I guess I can randomly say that Classic UYasuo has an inrherent advantage over High Noon because Classic's animationg for the Q-ready whirleinw thingy is a lot smaller and doesn't look like Yas is running through shitpiss mudo r something. It just kinda looks like a grass hula skirt flipped upside down and defying rgavityu.

the only one with a hyla skirt around herer tho is Pool Part Leona, right?



(if you guys anow knother one plz share)

↑ Maestro wrote:Ok well in that case everybody ganging up on me, I guess I can randomly say that Classic UYasuo has an inrherent advantage over High Noon because Classic's animationg for the Q-ready whirleinw thingy is a lot smaller and doesn't look like Yas is running through shitpiss mudo r something. It just kinda looks like a grass hula skirt flipped upside down and defying rgavityu.

While we're thinking about it, High Noon yasuo keeps one advanrage: he's less distrating if you can hear his taunts and/spell "cries" bedause he doesn't do the FOO-YIII-GEH-TON thing right in the middle of a teamfight!

So many difference advantages, these skins

↑ Maestro wrote:Pool Part Leona

fuck I forgot she doesn't wear a hula skirt she has a towel/pencil skirt thingy

On skins giving advantages: I guess it's arguable that they give an advantage if you're below a specific attentiveness level (note: not skill level, attentiveness level). If you aren't paying attention, then not having the slightly slightly easier to notice warning sign might punish you. But then it's not really on the skin, it's on you for not paying attention.

Cho q knocking you up higher = completely untrue. Trynd crit animation being longer on demonblade - it looks longer, but it won't have any relevance outside of being hit by skillshots if you're waiting for the animation to go through (in which case you need to animation cancel that shit, and I highly doubt the .25 seconds saved by the cancel will be relevant in 99% of situations).

I mean, if you aren't paying attention enough to see the animation of underworld tf throwing his wild cards to notice the emerging GHOSTLY LIGHT LINES then you probably woulda been hit by normal tf anyway because you aren't paying attention - but maybe that slightly more noticeable card would make you take the two steps you need to move out of the way idk. Same for lux.

None of the hitboxes and such change, so any arguments of "oh the projectile is bigger/smaller" or whatever are silly. It's arguing that you would hit skillshots / get hit by skillshots more often because the image of the move (not the actual move) looks like it hits / misses at a certain range. The only way this works as any kind of advantage is if you're one of the types of people that likes to go "oh it won't hit me" and then bam you realize you have no idea what the range / hitbox is (meaning you should probably try to dodge things - you're likely getting hit by skillshots regardless of skin just based off of this bad habit).

For things that have indicators: most of them aren't even relevant. Sona e slow shows regardless of skin because THEY ARE SLOWED even if we ignore the giant purple soundwave that she shoots with the auto, hecarim speed progression shows regardless of skin (because he moves faster, and the model of his run is different even in the classic skin) and q stacks can be counted / are visible at the bottom of the screen.

Highly doubt snow ziggs is noteworthy unless you're not paying attention, but I haven't been on aram with a snow ziggs in so long I couldn't say anything either way.

Sona w is barely noteworthy in that it's slightly more clearly indicated to your team with the little debuff notifier, but I highly doubt anyone's going to be like "oh sona debuffed them I can see that little nodule there that tells me so I can definitely win this fight that I am already trying to win now" - not to mention we're ignoring the giant green soundwave. If anything, this is a disadvantage because it's clearer for your opponents, the people that have to change expectations to take it into account for the all in. I'd argue that it's not noteworthy, but if it was it's negative.

tl;dr: skin advantage exists in the case of champions with sunglasses getting -1 damage from leona, that's it

First time I've seen Maestro drunkpost...alright.

It makes your teammates like you more because they can see that you're helping. ^^

I highly doubt people will appreciate your help more because of a tiny little indicator if they don't appreciate your help to begin with

Only problem I have is the difficult to see skillshots, everything else I agree with Rayfrost on. Especially in a chaotic teamfight, I'd rather not have the chance to visually miss steel legion lux's moves

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↑ Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:I think steel legion lux gives you an advantage b/c it's IMPOSSIBLE TO SEE THE E.

I ABSOLUTELY HATE THE STEEL LEGION LUX AUTO ATTACK ANIMATION
Own it, never use it. Spells also feel way clunkier than ordinary lux. I used spellthief all the time, still do.
Maybe it's just because I played Lux before the skin came out.

tbh just use the skins you like best, if at all, it really doesn't matter
Faker gets away without using any skins and you can too