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I for some mega stupid reason decided that you though Var was scum not because of night actions but because of relational tells thus I asked. I just woke up gimme a break XD.

MULTIBALL

Orc did yell at Vars, which only clears Vars of being Orc's scumbuddy. This is probably 3/3/14 multiball.

Which means that 2 has 2 scumbuddies left, of which Varsoon seems very likely to be one.

pedit: Nacho beat me to it >.>

In post 3341, BROseidon wrote:

In post 3325, borkjerfkin wrote:orcinus_theoriginal, Meyneth, Mechonis Aligned Godmother

Neighbor

, was killed Night 3.

Uh, GiF...

Are you faking stupidity?

Ghost is not scumbuddies with Orc, unless the mod decided to put TWO NEIGHBORS IN THE SAME SCUMTEAM. Which seems useless, unless they have other people they can talk to.

Hey Ghost, is Orc your only neighbor, or do you have others?

Orc was my only neighbor. I can full claim if you'd like; but I am colonist aligned.

Okay Ghost is def not Orc's scumbuddy. I don't think a full claim from you is necessary right now.

In post 3349, GuyInFreezer wrote:Didn't orc yelled at varsoon for quite a bit?

Yup. At first he called him stupid, a bad player, suggested he used bad logic... Hell, he even voted for him. Then he got off him (compared to earlier posts) all but completely.

About Nacho... 1955 really seems to link he and Sajin.

In post 1955, Nachomamma8 wrote:

In post 294, Sajin wrote:I would always criticize miller day 1 claims. I also wanted to know whether he investigated as a specific anti town faction name (the win condition leave open scum multiball possibility). I have also encountered a faction specific miller in a theme game before (Kingdom hearts mafia: viewtopic.php?f=56&t=12809&start=4275 check role pm 13) Coincidentally that miller was a town miller tracker. Go figure. The miller player was a strong asset to the town in that game (not by night actions, but by day play) and I would like to give Sven the same chance.

This post was awesome as fuck; I loved it. I think that way that he handled the miller claim was better than what any of us did, honestly, and I like him treating me like a petulant child while he did his own this. His questions, while not horribly significant or ridiculous, were also a good followup to him urging to look elsewhere; that attempt to get people talking about other things felt valid.

In post 317, Sajin wrote:He even implied you would have to take one you probably would not like (miller) with the one you would like (tracker). I don't think it was a tell at all and is weak reasoning. Additionally it actually makes a lot of sense as it shows me his frustration at the heat a miller claim brings but also acknowledges it as a "cool role" at the same time. That post is one of the main reasons I suspect he is town.

This makes a lot of sense, actually.

In post 1006, Sajin wrote:@Nacho You are being to obvious with what your doing here. Thus no effect.

I liked this post too.

In post 1006, Sajin wrote:232: I probably understand more roles than anyone in this thread. Trust me on that one.

And this one. I danced around like I was the king of setup spec in Poetic Justice when people weren't listening to me, and him standing behind it the way he did is nice.

In post 1370, Sajin wrote:Really Nacho? Are you town this game?

This is the type of "confronting town leaders" I really like. Not discrediting, but picked up on me playing up the Miller Tracker biz for reaction's sake and immediately attacked me on it. Consistent with him being a little behind, picking up on me overplaying the whole situation and attacking me for it despite "Nacho is town" on pretty much every other post. I liked it a lot.

In post 1463, Sajin wrote:You do it to yourself. Fine you can be town. Do me a favor and get varsoon to answer my case while I am gone for memorial day weekend.

Liked this too. Seriously doubt it's coming from scum.

A little too tired to give him the proper rundown, but pretty much the only thing holding me back from putting him in townblock is being caught up. Get caught up; your posts this game are good and I need your perspective a little more.

Am I missing something the rest of you guys see? Please enlighten me if so, because this is the one post above all others keeping me from dumping Nacho in the scum bucket.

~ wayne

I was going to post but then my TV turned on.

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gonna try and kill

Coloring up the VCs again:
Votecount 1.20 (Final)

[11] (Andrius, , Nachomamma8, BROseidon, , , , GuyInFreezer, , Varsoon, ) 
[3] waynegg (Ghostlin, , )
[2] Metal Sonic (, TiphaineDeath)
[1] ()
[1] (waynegg)
[1] TiphaineDeath (Metal Sonic)

[1] Not Voting (Ser Arthur Dayne)

With 20 alive, it is 11 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

A lynch has been reached! Scene incoming.


Votecount 2.4 (Final)

[9] (Nachomamma8,, BROseidon, spinachattack, Varsoon, Andrius, , , GuyInFreezer)
[1] Metal Sonic (TiphaineDeath)
[1] ()
[1] (Ghostlin)
[1] TiphaineDeath (Metal Sonic)
[1] ()

[3] Not Voting (, , Ser Arthur Dayne)

With 17 alive, it is 9 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

A lynch has been reached! Scene incoming.


Votecount 3.1 (Final)

[7] (, , Andrius, Ghostlin, TiphaineDeath, GuyInFreezer, spinachattack)
[1] (Metal Sonic)
[1] spinachattack (Varsoon)

[4] Not Voting (BROseidon, Ser Arthur Dayne, , Nachomamma8)

With 13 alive, it is 7 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

A lynch has been reached! Scene Incoming.

Flips:

2: Bio aligned Cop
Mac: Colonist Vanilla
Rev: Colonist Miller Tracker
AJ: Colonist Vanilla
BNB: Colonist EN Cop
Venmar: Colonist 2-shot Hider
Cabd: Colonist Vanilla
Mumkhar: Mech 1-shot Strongman
Orc: Mech Godmother Neighbor
Sajin: Colonist Vanilla

Thoughts:

*Nacho is probably not Red scum if he is scum considering how hard he rode and scum hunted 2 in Day 1, he could possibly be Blue scum, however.

*Varshoon could be any color scum, really.

*What exactly is SAD doing this game? Seriously, they've spent more time doing nothing then TD and Sonic have voting each other.

*SA is more likely to be Red scum then Blue scum. Considering how much I didn't like TMT in the early game, this might be worth going back to.

*Someone will have pointed this out, but I cannot be Blue scum. Protip, kids: I'm not Red scum either.

*BRO is more likely to be Blue than Red, but my hearts not in that one.

The List:

Town: Andrius (although I'm wondering why he's alive now), BRO, GiF, probably TD

Possible Blue scum: Varshoon, Nacho (which really pains me, but it's Day 4 with a multitude of flips), SAD

Possible Red scum: SA, SAD

Actually, scratch that. Orc didn't talk much in our neighbor conversations, but he had a hate-on for Varshoon. There's no point in trying to direct a Town aligned neighbor to your buddy. Varshoon would have to be Red scum, bussing/buddying 2. (I forgot him in my Possible Red scum list). Bottom half of the list should read:

Possible Blue scum: Nacho (which really pains me, but it's Day 4 with a multitude of flips), SAD

Possible Red scum: SA, SAD, Varshoon

Cannot be a particular color of scum: Ghostlin (Blue), Nacho (Red, unless he pulled off the most epic of busses Day 1), Varshoon (unless Orc really was fucking with me hard in the QT; he really, really REALLY wanted Varshoon dead)

I think we need to talk about the possiblity of a SAD lynch seriously, but helping Town win and forcing a possible 'scum shoot each other and Town wins' scenario is much more appealing and with Andy's claim he shot Varshoon:

Ghostlin wrote:Town: Andrius (although I'm wondering why he's alive now

Something tells me the scumteams were out to crosskill last night.

Aka higher priorities than me (or Nacho if he's town).

In post 3362, Andrius wrote:Something tells me the scumteams were out to crosskill last night.

Um, what? Why would you make this argument when Sajin was conftowned by Venmar?

...I meant the blueflip.

Blueteam killing Sajin was the right choice as he was conf.notblue.
Redteam obviously went for the crosskill.

In post 3246, Ghostlin wrote:Scum is in, but not exclusive at least one of {Varsoon, Sajin}, using Day 1/Day 2 wagon data and PoE. Nacho, I know you're re-calibrating, but would you support a Varshoon lynch today?

In post 3270, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Oh yeah yeah yeah and

VOTE: Varsoon

all orc did his entire play after D1 dodging 2 was tunnel Varsoon.
that's absolutely it.

In post 3278, Andrius wrote:fair enough

NACHO
THE TRIUMVIRATE NEEDS YOU
FOR THE NIGHT IS DARK AND FULL OF TERRORS

and nacho is angry

In post 3334, Andrius wrote:2) Nacho isn't dead. TownBastionofLightandGlory Nacho isn't dead. Its D4. I'm not sure how much else I want to claim at the moment but suffice to say I think Nacho has a chance of being scum.

it should be obvious why I'm currently alive

In post 3355, spinachattack wrote:Am I missing something the rest of you guys see? Please enlighten me if so, because this is the one post above all others keeping me from dumping Nacho in the scum bucket.

this is the only reason you find me town?
why do you find me scum?

No more votes on Varsoon though, I would love to slow this day down.

Protip: don't take any stock in protips that self proclaim non scum. Especially when they reiterate it so many times...



~Wayne

Nacho wrote:and nacho is angry

whyyyyyyy

Nacho wrote:it should be obvious why I'm currently alive

N3, yes, the kills are accounted for.
I'm more concerned with N1 and N2 to be honest.

Yeah, we have to wait for varsoon anyway; V/LA until 6/14.

In post 3369, spinachattack wrote:Protip: don't take any stock in protips that self proclaim non scum. Especially when they reiterate it so many times...

FoS: Ghostlin

~Wayne

*Yawns* Shy of being a mason, I'm about the closest thing to a confirmed townie in this game, so I have no fucks to give here.

10. Ser Arthur Dayne
12. Metal Sonic
20. Varsoon

here are the players i currently want to kill

@Nacho That's not at all what I said. I see plenty of compelling arguments either way. That's just the one post which has nailed you to my town board. As of now anyhow.

In post 3334, Andrius wrote:

VOTE: VARSOON

1) I shot varsoon last night. He isn't dead. Town_protective roles have no reason to protect him.

I don't really see it? Like, at all. You jump from point A to C with an extremely weak B.