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In post 3260, Tammy wrote:PLAY THE GODDAMN FUCKING GAME IF YOU'RE TOWN.

FFS.

You know what SD I read that Lucid Dreamers game. Not only did you want to lynch Ckflip for not playing, you also said that Mutley's continued not doing anything in that game should not be rewarded with you all letting him live. And then. AND THEN when ckflip wasn't clear in his answers to you, you went after him for not being clear about his actions.

So, take you sanctimonious bullshit and play the goddamn game or hang.

For Fuck Sakes, you know how to play and yet you're acting like the most puerile Vi this game and I'm just literally fucking sick and tired of every single time you post when it's not actually doing anything in this game. Also, also, you claim to have little time to do anything here,

but you sure are managing plenty of time to play another game.

I can't believe people policy lynched thor over this lurksack day one. I hate you all.

I'd love for the bolded to be a bannable offence for breaking one of the site rules, you've done it twice now, but I doubt it considering who you're in league with. That playing another game has anything to do with this game is mind-boggling logic anyway. My activity has been the same sire-wide and I try to (and do) respond to both games at the same time. So other than for game-banning offences, there is no reason to mention it.

So why are you assuming I'm not trying? You're not me so fuck off with your lies. I didn't come into this day wanting to answer petty little questions or accusations by people pretending to be dense or listen to how I'm lying or not keeping my story straight.

I can't wave a magic wand around and solve this game for you or anyone, I certainly can't do anything if I find myself having to defend myself constantly. Not everyone can sit around pressing f5 all day and night on a thread like yourself. If there's only limited time to catch up at and that's spent responding to asinine crap such as yours posts then there's little time do anything else. That is a fact. Anyway, any time I do post my reads they are ignored or criticised but I'm scummy for revealing everything WHICH APPARENTLY I'M NOT MEANT TO DO ANYWAY!!! So fuck off. I'm the most transparent person in this game.

My sanctimonious bullshit? Oh please your play reads nothing BUT fake, your faux-appeals read fake, your faux-rage reads as fake. You are so hypocritical, what have you done in this game other than town read your buddies, spend more time reading other games and vote-camping whilst pretending to fill in the story after. I mean you're actually trying to us BOP on me. It's amusing. Make up your mind as to what I am ffs. So contradictive.

You're whole meta argument is ludicrous. Not only are you basing everything here on ONE read in ONE game, you have to assume that everyone plays EVERY game the same, that EVERY game IS the same and filled with the EXACT same players. Which is a ridicules assumption. I suggest you try (because I'm not sure if you ) and go spot the differences between this game and Lucid Dreamer.

Kasuki is doing SFA, Titus is doing SFA all, TA is doing SFA, Elle is doing SFA, most of the hydras are spectators, Kanye picks a name out of a hat every time he logs in, you and Tierce don't actually think anyone is scum.

There are people here lurking harder and posting less than I, but ignore them. There are people playing more concerned about have tea-parties and reading other games than this one, but ignore that. There are people here who just sheep whatever the popular mood is and not have an individual thought for themselves, but ignore that. Just ride your confirmation-bias train all the way to the station.

But you know rag on me with your faux rage and petty rants if it makes you feel better but if you start lecturing about play then I'd suggest looking in the mirror first and stop acting like the pot calling the kettle black.

In post 3258, Titus wrote:Kanye, you're agreeing with me that SD is being confusing and then voting me. What the hell?

SD, use plain language. I gave you a form. It will be crystal clear if you do that.

If it is not crystal clear to you now, after several times repeating myself, then you are even dumber than your play right now is suggesting. Go grab Tammy's VI badge, she's looking desperate for someone to give it too.

In post 3270, AGar wrote:The emphasis in the second quote is mine, btw.

Wtf. I claimed my night two action yesterday. IT WAS DAY THREE!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARE YOU SERIOUSLY SAYING THAT I'M LYING BECAUSE YESTERDAY WAS NOT DAY THREE!!!!!!!

WTF IS THIS SHIT.

Seriously? And I'm the fucking VI here?

Fuck sake. This game has been a real eye-opener that was for sure in regards to experienced players here. Just wow.

In post 3279, Shadoweh wrote:

In post 3246, Titus wrote:Are you reading what is currently happening? The point is for SD to answer what he did. In addition to trying to answer for him, you've thrown a question in there drippping with placating tone.

Says the guy who commented on how the dead miller was obvtown. Reading is super hard and I'm trying to cut it out of my diet, but you idiot, 'the links go to' refer to the links SafetyDance posted and what was in those linked posts. It's not answering for him, it's the ability to click a blue link and read what it says.

Regardless, being confusing in your words isn't scummy. Lucid Dreamers is just one game. I thought I'd look at The Wire at the same time and SD is delightfully unhelpful in that game, so he probably has townie mood swings or something.

SAFETY DANCE DANCE RESOLUTION CAN YOU STOP TRYING TO WIN THE LEAST ENJOYABLE PLAYER SCUMMY AND TALK ABOUT WHO YOU FIND SCUMMY THERE ARE LIKE 14 PEOPLE ATTACKING YOU IT CAN'T BE FUCKING HARD TO WANT TO LYNCH SOME OF THEM. The more YOU keep acknowledging this dumb argument without doing anything resembling playing mafia the more you're gonna get hated on. Your pro-defense work isn't working, it turns out swearing at the emotional players doesn't get them to lynch you less.

Hi person who's stolen my caps lock key. Finding plenty of people scummy was the problem in the first place. LOL. Ignoring all this? LMAO. I was being callled scummy for not responding quick enough. Fucking hell, damned whatever I do it's amazing.

Also, if you care to look at my iso pre all this, I'm sure you'd find I did have scum reads. But ignore that please. Also, good job ignoring the VC too, where you wont have noticed WHERE I'VE PUT MY VOTE ON.

In post 3280, Benmage wrote:Is logic annoying Tierce? We get ragemad at a lurker... But let an active lurker get a free pass.... Maybe I don't see the logic...

Yeah well after 130 pages, people being hypocrites doesn't shock me anymore.

In post 3321, Tierce wrote:

In post 3320, elleheathen wrote:

In post 3317, Tierce wrote:

In post 3315, elleheathen wrote:You use your x3?

I'm

one

-shot BP. Guess who was shot N1!

In post 2908, Tierce wrote:I have a shared Bulletproof ability. X times during the game, I can shield myself and one other player (remember Night 1? I do!). And I know where that kill MUST go. I can protect Syryana and myself for the next

two

Nights.

So give it over. This girl has quite the name to whisper~

waitwut?

It's called gambiting, love.

Or not getting your story straight! :asoiafplayerlogic:

In post 3349, Messiah Complex wrote:So this SD wagon has run its course, right? And we can all get back to finding scum?

I'm still in the process of putting together a Spyrex analysis that should be fruitful.

Cephrir beat you too it

In post 3348, Tierce wrote:I made a long post and then pushed the back key on my kindle. Drat.

Suffice to say, Titus, I knew Garruk had done something to me, realized they had done something else and were not a Town Rolestealer, and since I knew I had lost my abilities, I was obviously aware that last Night I couldn't have been the kill's target and had to reach through my gambit to unravel SD's claim. If I were blocked scum, I would have sat prettily on my BP claim and not bothered to be the first to interrogate him.

If scum had vanillized me N1, they knew I was BSing that multi BP claim and thus I wasn't the one who had been shot last Night because I'd be dead.

As it is, since I was not vanillized by SCUM on N1, I'm fairly sure I was already shot by them and that a missing kill last Night came from somewhere else.

Evidence that I was bulletproof? ISO me. I said I had time on D1 and was far too lax with things because I could afford to eat a kill. And they went and wasted a kill on me that early. <3

Nacho, I'm at a point where I need to review the game. I need sleep for two more hours and need to make space for visits after that. I'll go over this on the way into town.

How can you know Garruk visited you if all your abilities were blocked?

In post 3337, Tierce wrote:

In post 3330, The Alchemist wrote:Roleblocking didn't hurt the coin, either.

Ooo. So you know what you did? (Don't say who you targeted, just answer yes or no.)

Man, I am so much better than Arya Stark and Jon Snow at this game.

I do know what I did. And didn't do. And you being better is relative, considering.

In post 3338, Tierce wrote:

In post 3333, The Alchemist wrote:

In post 3332, quadz08 wrote:Alchemist, why the Titus vote?

A wild combination of sheeping Nacho, losing faith in my scumread of SD (the reaction he gave was not in any way shape or form what I expected), and upon reread of Titus' ISO I am comfortable with lynching her toDay (this merits a longer explanation than I have time to write right now, but suffice it to say I think she's scum largely because all the shit she's been doing/asking has no discernible goal in mind other than to look busy).

Dear S,

Please go read some Titus games and compare player skill throughout before making this assessment.

Love,
T.

I'm not saying Titus scum based off skill. I'm saying Titus scum based off the complete lack of any goal in her actions. Which, if you'd read said Titus games, you'd know what I was talking about.

SafetyDance wrote:

In post 3270, AGar wrote:The emphasis in the second quote is mine, btw.

Wtf. I claimed my night two action yesterday. IT WAS DAY THREE!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARE YOU SERIOUSLY SAYING THAT I'M LYING BECAUSE YESTERDAY WAS NOT DAY THREE!!!!!!!

WTF IS THIS SHIT.

Seriously? And I'm the fucking VI here?

Fuck sake. This game has been a real eye-opener that was for sure in regards to experienced players here. Just wow.

Hey. Why don'tcha try reading? People don't give a lively shit WHEN you've claimed what. People are scumreading you because you've claimed two conflicting actions on the same gods damned slot.

In post 3351, SafetyDance wrote:I'd love for the bolded to be a bannable offence for breaking one of the site rules, you've done it twice now, but I doubt it considering who you're in league with.

Bugger off. Not only are accusations of favoritism ridiculous, but general activity patterns are not ban material and list mods pointedly do not take part in infraction discussions from games they're in. Go be an asshole elsewhere, quadz and I have better things to do than deal with this kind of shitty attitude.

The problem is not Tammy, the problem is clearly you when multiple people have asked you to be absolutely crystal clear and your responses are riddled with petty insults. Regardless of your alignment, my opinion of you has sunk by several points from your attitude in this game, and it's sad that I hope you're scum as some sort of justification for your uncalled for behavior.

I once had fun joking around with you, but you're revealing yourself to be a complete jerk who has no place inflicting himself on a game and on others. You're frustrated? You should well be, you've caused this.

Be clear. Crystal clear. No links. Did you roleblock Nautilius N2? Did you track Nautilius N2? Did you roleblock quadz08 N3? Did you track quadz08 N3?

In post 3355, SafetyDance wrote:How can you know Garruk visited you if all your abilities were blocked?

Because I'm a smart cookie and some actions leave paper trails that do not require me being a tracker or a self-watcher.

Syryana: do you know the flavor name alone, or do you happen to know the player name?

This head is here, assuming t'other hasn't posted in its absence, much apologies for dropping off. Crazy couple of days. Catching up today.

@ Goat: I didn't really care for that analysis. I was talking more about analyzing everyone's trajectory on Spyrex the entire day, not just lazily quoting various attempts to derail his wagon, which appears to be Cephrir's only criteria for scummy behavior re: Spyrex.

@ Tierce: He fucking used Titus' format and linked to the posts where he told us what he did. The only reason you are still confused is because you choose to be.

- Des

Willing to lynch both AGar and quadz, Titus is just being Titus.

Hey nacho I'll be on all night later today so you can inquisition me all you want. I supported our SafetyDance vote, though, even if I wouldn't have justified it in the means he did with as much...gusto.

In post 3360, Messiah Complex wrote:@ Tierce: He fucking used Titus' format and linked to the posts where he told us what he did. The only reason you are still confused is because you choose to be.

Look, at this point I just want an answer that will shut people up. I have my beliefs of what he did, but I want absolute certainty because the level of confusion is ridiculous. I don't want links, I want plain answers so we can move on. He's choosing not to do so and then complains people are dumb when he's being purposefully confusing and there are things that don't add up like talking about a roleblocked Ninja and not denying it when someone asks why he tracked Nautilius. I want to get that settled once and for all so we can keep playing the game we signed up for.

I never claimed to be making a comprehensive analysis. Those votes happened to be the only things that stuck out to me on a cursory read.

Feeling worse about quadz, better about Titus (she looks like she's on the same drugs she was in Cabd's game. Oooooh, meta meta meta, scary).

I honestly want to lynch SD even though I'm starting to think he's town again. He's single-handedly quadrupling the amount of hostility in this thread and I'm sick of it. I would unvote but I agree with the above post for the time being.

, what name do you have for the reason you asked for the coin. Enough with the lies, or "gambits".

In post 3357, Tierce wrote:

In post 3351, SafetyDance wrote:I'd love for the bolded to be a bannable offence for breaking one of the site rules, you've done it twice now, but I doubt it considering who you're in league with.

Bugger off. Not only are accusations of favoritism ridiculous, but general activity patterns are not ban material and list mods pointedly do not take part in infraction discussions from games they're in. Go be an asshole elsewhere, quadz and I have better things to do than deal with this kind of shitty attitude.

The problem is not Tammy, the problem is clearly you when multiple people have asked you to be absolutely crystal clear and your responses are riddled with petty insults. Regardless of your alignment, my opinion of you has sunk by several points from your attitude in this game, and it's sad that I hope you're scum as some sort of justification for your uncalled for behavior.

I once had fun joking around with you, but you're revealing yourself to be a complete jerk who has no place inflicting himself on a game and on others. You're frustrated? You should well be, you've caused this.

Be clear. Crystal clear. No links. Did you roleblock Nautilius N2? Did you track Nautilius N2? Did you roleblock quadz08 N3? Did you track quadz08 N3?

How is it fair for a player having to defend themselves from an ongoing game? That is ridiculous. Thanks for proving yeah, it would have gotten nowhere.

Multiple people are saying I've done things that I haven't. If you had any sort of empathy or care for anyone else bar yourself, you'd at least consider what a shitty position that is to be in. Not only that, I have repeated myself, I have said the same thing over and over again. I don't need to say the same thing over and over again, again. If others can understand, why the hell can't you?

Whilst complaining about me, you haven't been a saint either yet it seems to be justified when you snark and insult people. The fucking double-standards. And I'm expected to just bend over and take it. Har.

But hey, it's just me with the problem, keep telling yourself that.


I would love the joking, happy Tierce back. The one who's a great mod. Not the egomaniac, condescending, haughty player that's in this game. As first game I've played involved you I really am feeling let down and disappointed.

In post 3356, The Alchemist wrote:Hey. Why don'tcha try reading? People don't give a lively shit WHEN you've claimed what. People are scumreading you because you've claimed two conflicting actions on the same gods damned slot.

No, I can't have claimed two conflicting actions because I've only ever claimed doing separate things, on different nights. There is no conflict on my end.

In post 3360, Messiah Complex wrote:@ Goat: I didn't really care for that analysis. I was talking more about analyzing everyone's trajectory on Spyrex the entire day, not just lazily quoting various attempts to derail his wagon, which appears to be Cephrir's only criteria for scummy behavior re: Spyrex.

@ Tierce: He fucking used Titus' format and linked to the posts where he told us what he did. The only reason you are still confused is because you choose to be.

- Des

Goat here is actually me. It's the same thing you were suggesting doing. The people derailing the wagon are important, because its those that jump on that look like bussing. Such as Goat and GR.

And it was Tammy's format, not Titus. Titus is more confused than Tierce atm.

In post 3362, Tierce wrote:

In post 3360, Messiah Complex wrote:@ Tierce: He fucking used Titus' format and linked to the posts where he told us what he did. The only reason you are still confused is because you choose to be.

Look, at this point I just want an answer that will shut people up. I have my beliefs of what he did, but I want absolute certainty because the level of confusion is ridiculous. I don't want links, I want plain answers so we can move on. He's choosing not to do so and then complains people are dumb when he's being purposefully confusing and there are things that don't add up like talking about a roleblocked Ninja and not denying it when someone asks why he tracked Nautilius. I want to get that settled once and for all so we can keep playing the game we signed up for.

In post 3237, SafetyDance wrote:

In post 3189, Tammy wrote:Okay SafetyDance

You tracked

You blocked

You vendored

People are confused and act dumb no matter what you give them.

In post 3364, Benmage wrote:

Tierce

, what name do you have for the reason you asked for the coin. Enough with the lies, or "gambits".

Knowledge.

In post 3365, SafetyDance wrote:Goat here is actually me. It's the same thing you were suggesting doing. The people derailing the wagon are important, because its those that jump on that look like bussing. Such as Goat and GR.

And it was Tammy's format, not Titus. Titus is more confused than Tierce atm.

Cephrir is scumreading the people derailing the wagon, not the people bussing. This is why I think a long-form analysis on it will be good because I think it's a lot more complex than "scum were bussing/scum were derailing the spyrex wagon."

- Des

In post 3366, Tierce wrote:

In post 3364, Benmage wrote:

Tierce

, what name do you have for the reason you asked for the coin. Enough with the lies, or "gambits".

Knowledge.

And for what it's worth, the only lies were that I was a shielding Bulletproof and me asking for the coin again after Syr had already handed it to me. Before then, I thought Syryana's coin kill would take place on N4, which was the reason I wanted scum not to try and shoot either of us on N3 and decided to gambit v. the odds of them knowing I had no active BP at the time.

Worked well enough. The kill did what it needed to do, elle is obvTown at this point and it's quite probable I did soak up a kill on N1.

Nacho--would lynch people outside of {Alfred Borden, Tammy, Nautilius, ooba, elleheathen, Benmage, kanyeknowsbest}. Tentative Townreads on Garruk Relentless, SafetyDance, Cephrir, Shadoweh, Goat on a Raft, Titus, and Messiah Complex, more on less from Towniest to scummiest. That means my lynch pool is AGar, quadz08, PrideandJoy, Katsuki and The Alchemist. Fairly sure at least one of those is wrong, but bridges and getting there.

Messiah should probably be higher on that list but I look at Desperado and get spooked.

Naut, SD gains plenty as scum by being obtuse. He gains VI status. Look at his posts though. He is not playing like a VI. Yet people are pushing him as one.

Tierce, haven't read that part yet but how would you know permannce on Day 2 unless the mod pmmed you which would neuter the permanent roleblocker.

SD, no links, just type out what you did. What is SFA?

Looking forward to your analysis Messiah.


Also, I don't like all the subtle discrediting. I will bbl. Just had 5 minutes.

In post 3369, Tierce wrote:Messiah should probably be higher on that list but I look at Desperado and get spooked.

???

- Des

In post 3370, Titus wrote:Tierce, haven't read that part yet but how would you know permannce on Day 2 unless the mod pmmed you which would neuter the permanent roleblocker.

I was told I lost all my abilities. Funnily enough (because you can't really erase things from role PMs or players' heads), this version of Jon Snow still knows a few things despite that wildling girl's accusations~

But yes, there's no point in me regaining my other abilities. Long story short, they were investigative (so Faraday had to tell me something when I lost them), and tied to Amrun and she's kind of dead and that puts a bit of a damper on things.


I can't read you worth a damn, Des.

In post 3367, Messiah Complex wrote:

In post 3365, SafetyDance wrote:Goat here is actually me. It's the same thing you were suggesting doing. The people derailing the wagon are important, because its those that jump on that look like bussing. Such as Goat and GR.

And it was Tammy's format, not Titus. Titus is more confused than Tierce atm.

Cephrir is scumreading the people derailing the wagon, not the people bussing. This is why I think a long-form analysis on it will be good because I think it's a lot more complex than "scum were bussing/scum were derailing the spyrex wagon."

- Des

Just P&J, really.

It is, yes. I was also looking for awkward bussing, but I didn't find any. If you can do better, great.

In post 3368, Tierce wrote:Worked well enough.

The kill did what it needed to do,

elle is obvTown at this point and it's quite probable I did soak up a kill on N1.

How so?